Entourage 2008 - still no hyperlink?

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housewolf

Where is the hyperlink button? I hope I just can't find it.

Since 2004 Entourage has been the ONLY email program to not include hyperlink. I was forced to use an external script or cut and paste from a word processing doc. For that reason alone I've been using Mac Mail.

It is hard for me to believe that in 2008 Entourage STILL doesn't support hyperlink. It is sooo 90's to be forced to include an entire URL in an email.
 
S

Steve

I was also hoping this was fixed in 2008. I tried different versions of email encoding but none of them seem to make hyperlinks appear as hyperlinks instead of just plain text.
 
D

Diane Ross

Where is the hyperlink button? I hope I just can't find it.

Since 2004 Entourage has been the ONLY email program to not include hyperlink.
I was forced to use an external script or cut and paste from a word processing
doc. For that reason alone I've been using Mac Mail.

It is hard for me to believe that in 2008 Entourage STILL doesn't support
hyperlink. It is sooo 90's to be forced to include an entire URL in an email.

This function is not available.

Personal comment: Not everyone likes HTML and we don't mind the entire URL
included. I had to change your message to plain text so I could read it. The
font was too small for me to read.
 
H

housewolf

Hi Diane-
Sorry you had to change the message to plain text and bump up the font. I simply typed into the Mactopia message box and you got whatever the default is.

I guess there isn't much communication between Microsoft developers. Outlook has supported hyperlinks since the inception of XP (and possibly earlier?). Someone in Redmond must think it is a useful function. It would be nice to give the end-user, rather than the developer, the final decision whether to use it or not. I can't think of another email program that doesn't support hyperlinks.

Regardless, thanks for the reply.
 
B

bjoelbrown

Yeah - I just got Entourage 2008 after having switched back to Mail
several months ago. The first thing I googled after installing and not
seeing the hyperlink function anywhere, was this topic. My friend
who's a Windows platform developer for Microsoft always makes fun of
me for not being able to hyperlink in Entourage and uses it as extra
ammo for his 'PCs are superior' argument...lame!
 
M

Michel Bintener

No, unfortunately, that functionality is not built into Entourage 2008. What
you can do instead:

* compose those e-mail messages which need to include hyperlinks in Word
2008, then click on File>Send to>Mail Recipient (as HTML). Word allows you
to create hyperlinks rather easily, and they will be preserved in Entourage.

* google for Paul Berkowitz' free AppleScript Make Hyperlinks X, which
allows you to create hyperlinks in e-mail messages (read the included readme
fiel to find out how).

Yeah - I just got Entourage 2008 after having switched back to Mail
several months ago. The first thing I googled after installing and not
seeing the hyperlink function anywhere, was this topic. My friend
who's a Windows platform developer for Microsoft always makes fun of
me for not being able to hyperlink in Entourage and uses it as extra
ammo for his 'PCs are superior' argument...lame!

--
Michel Bintener
Microsoft MVP
Office:Mac (Entourage & Word)

*** Please always reply to the newsgroup. ***
 
A

Alan Johnson

I went to this site and attempted to download -
Paul Berkowitz' free AppleScript Make Hyperlinks X

Firefox went to redirected site and nothing got down load on to my desk top. Is there another side or product that will create hyperlinks? Not to beat a dead horse, but thi seems something that a mail program should have.
 
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Diane Ross

I went to this site and attempted to download -
Paul Berkowitz' free AppleScript Make Hyperlinks X

What site? Did you try Scriptbuilders <http://scriptbuilders.net/>

<http://files.macscripter.net/ScriptBuilders/Entourage/makehyperlinksx_221.s
it>
Firefox went to redirected site and nothing got down load on to my desk top.
Is there another side or product that will create hyperlinks? Not to beat a
dead horse, but thi seems something that a mail program should have.

You can also create hyperlinks in Word. Open Word 2004, compose your e-mail
with all the tools available in Word, and when you're done, click on
File>Send To>Mail Recipient (as HTML), and Word will send your current
document to Entourage.

The one big drawback to this method is that you cannot attach files to it
later on, and you cannot modify the text any longer, so if you need to make
additional changes, you will have to open the Word document again and repeat
the "Send to" procedure after you're done.

Other options:

Send Complex HTML with Inline Files 2004 by Rob Buckley.

<http://scriptbuilders.net/files/sendcomplexhtmlwithinlinefiles20040.4.1.htm
l>
 
A

Allen Watson

Matthew,

Microsoft MVPs are Mac _users_ like yourself. They are not employees of
Microsoft and have all the same difficulties using Office that you do! We're
just trying to help people make the best use of the software as it is
provided. So lay off the slanderous remarks about people's integrity!

Like Diane, I avoid HTML e-mail for many reasons (biggest one being that it
takes two or three times as much bandwidth and disk space for everyone who
receives it). Yet I admit that there are times it is the best option: when I
want to have a nicely formatted document with bold, italic, and headings, or
to include images, or need color-coded text (e.g. Sending program code). So
I absolutely agree that Entourage needs hyperlinks, and needs to be able to
compose complex HTML mail. Using Word is okay, but as has been pointed out,
if you want to add attachments or make edits later, you have problems.
Frankly, although I love Entourage, when I want to send HTML mail I use
another mail client to do it, and I CC myself so I have a record of it in
Entourage.

Allen Watson
Microsoft MVP for Entourage
 
I

iThomasM

I very much miss the ability to add hyperlinks. I know that some
don't like HTML messages, but that shouldn't be forced upon everyone
else.

I think the Entourage developers need to take a step back and consider
the marketplace. Thunderbird, Apple Mail, Eudora, Zimbra, Gmail,
Yahoo Mail, Hotmail and Outlook all add the ability to insert
hyperlinks. It's more uncommon to not have hyperlinks.

I did try and use the script mentioned above, but it doesn't seem to
work in the 2008 version of Entourage. It shows, but the links never
get added.

Maybe a solution would be to have an 'addon' or official script that
users that want hyperlink abilities can download and use.

Please, reconsider the hyperlink issue. It may even help increase the
number of Entourage users.
 
C

Corentin Cras-Méneur

Jolly Roger said:
If you paste any URL into the body of any plain text message, it already
*is* a hyperlink. What more do you need?

From what I understand, what they want is something that woudl do the
equavalent of <a href="http://www.google.com">Search the Web</a>.

They don't want to paste a clickable link, they want to apply a link to
some text.

It's a non-issue for me because I really don't want to receive/send
fully formatted HTML e-mails. I use Plain Text every time I get a chance
(people have lousy tastes in fonts and backgrounds 99.99% of the time
:-> )
Having the link in the text is a much better solution (and safer) for
what I need.

The only options I can think of have already been mentioned in the
thread and they involve using Paul's script to send complex HTML.

Corentin
 
D

Diane Ross

Please, reconsider the hyperlink issue. It may even help increase the
number of Entourage users.

Send your feedback to MSFT. We're just users like you and can't do anything
about it.

Under Help in the Entourage menu bar select "Send Feedback on Entourage" to
request this feature, or
click on this direct link to enter Mac Product Feedback:

<http://www.microsoft.com/mac/default.aspx?pid=feedback>

Just don't send your HTML emails to me.
 
H

housewolf

You sound like a DOS dweeb who mistakenly bought a Mac. Ever hear of WYSIWYG?

With your Outlook on correspondence, I'd suggest buying a typewriter and a roll of postage stamps. Meanwhile, don't make excuses for Microsoft not giving the user (who paid hundreds of dollars for the privilege) the option to hyperlink.
 
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Barry Wainwright

why not be honest and say..uh we wanted to screw over mac users.

More honest is to say ³it was not a priority for us².

There was a limited amount of time, a limited number of people and a limited
budget.

This release had an awful lot of work to do to convert the whole application
development environment to x-code, and then to make the apps Intel native.
Unfortunately that meant a lot of other stuff had to be cut.

Whilst making text-based hyperlinks is vital in a mail client for you (and
maybe half a dozen others), it isn¹t for me or a lot of other people.
Decisions were made. The programme managers who made these decisions didn¹t
make them on an arbitrary basis, but on the results of some fairly intensive
study on what was important to the majority of users.

I¹m sorry (for you) that hyperlinks didn¹t make the cut, but please, why
does such a minor issue need to become a conspiracy theory? Why on earth
would a business unit that makes its living ONLY from producing mac software
want to 'screw over' mac users?


--
Barry Wainwright
Microsoft MVP (see <http://www.microsoft.com/mvp/> for details)
Visit the Entourage User¹s Weblog for Hints, tips and troubleshooting
information:
http://www.barryw.net/weblog/
 
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Barry Wainwright

You sound like a DOS dweeb who mistakenly bought a Mac. Ever hear of WYSIWYG?

With your Outlook on correspondence, I'd suggest buying a typewriter and a
roll of postage stamps. Meanwhile, don't make excuses for Microsoft not giving
the user (who paid hundreds of dollars for the privilege) the option to
hyperlink.

Thank you for your thoughtful, considered response.

Welcome to my killfile.

(this email sent in plain text only)
--
Barry Wainwright
Microsoft MVP (see <http://www.microsoft.com/mvp/> for details)
Visit the Entourage User¹s Weblog for Hints, tips and troubleshooting
information:
http://www.barryw.net/weblog/
 
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iThomasM

It's amazing how such a seemingly small feature brings out the worst
in everyone; customers and Microsoft MVP people. A lot of posts in
this thread are very negative, or at least their coming off that way.

I did put in my feedback on the official Microsoft site and am
constantly looking for a work around.

Has anyone gotten Make Hyperlinks X to work in Entourage 2008?
 
D

Donna W

Please Help. I use comcast for my email in Entourage. Can you tell me why I can no longer access my email when I go to Comcast.net?
 
A

Adam Bailey

Donna W said:
Please Help. I use comcast for my email in Entourage. Can you tell me why
I can no longer access my email when I go to Comcast.net?

First, please start a new thread with a new question. Yours did not address
hyperlinks.

To your question: more information is needd. When did it stop working? Did
you make any changes to your computer (such as installing a new Entourage or
something else)? What happens when you try? Do you get an error message?
What version of Entourage are you using? Is your Comcast account setup as a
POP3 or IMAP account? How are you connected to the Internet?

Instructions on configuring Entourage for Comcast email can be found at:

http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.jsp?faq=EmailEntourage_(Mac)17545
http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.jsp?faq=EmailEntourage_(Mac)17831
 
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iThomasM

HTML email has a tendency to aggravate those of us who know enough about
it to recognize it's shortcomings. The best way to fix that problem,
educate yourself about HTML email. It's likely once you do, you'll find
yourself using HTML email much less often, which will, in turn,
aggravate less people on the planet. ; )

I'm a web developer so not using HTML seems odd. But I am now much
more interested in looking into it. :)
Several here, including me, know AppleScript well. What happens when
you try to run it with 2008?

It acts as everything is working by asking me all the questions. But
when it's done, no links show up in the email. Maybe I just need to
read the instructions again.
 
D

Diane Ross

Please Help. I use comcast for my email in Entourage. Can you tell me why I
can no longer access my email when I go to Comcast.net?

I'm a comcast user and have no problems. Accessing comcast.net problems
should be addressed with comcast support.
 

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