Entourage 2008 - still no hyperlink?

[sa.cs2cd]

Your embarrassment is not Microsoft's fault. Based on your subject line
I believe you already knew hyperlinks were not available in earlier
versions of Entourage. Before demonstrating your product you should
probably test.


No hyperlinks in Entourage = God complex?


I understand you're "disappointed" that Entourage does not compose
complex HTML messages but you need to understand that you're not talking
to Microsoft here. This is a peer-to-peer newsgroup where Entourage
users help other Entourage users. The value of this group, which is
*not* owned by Microsoft, gets diluted when the list of questions and
answers becomes polluted with rants.

You can take your issues, the rest of your diatribe and your name
calling directly to Microsoft by using the Help --> Send Feedback
mechanism in any Office application or by clicking this link
<http://www.microsoft.com/mac/suggestions.mspx>.

--

bill

William M. Smith, Microsoft Interop MVP - Mac/Windows
Entourage Help Page <http://entourage.mvps.org/>
Entourage Help Blog <http://blog.entourage.mvps.org/>

Listen,

I wrote in my post that I switched to Leopard because when buying a
new work computer a few months ago I refused to use "BLUP BLUP" happy
Vista and got my first Mac in 10 years.

I have 2 laptops and 2 desktops for my children all with Vista and it
is even worse than Windows ME, its just terrible.

When it was time for me to get a new box to sit next to my wonderful
XP system, I went Mac. I am a legacy Outlook user, so there is no "You
knew entourage didn't have hyperlinking", which by the way is not a
cool defense of this programming mockery.

Microsoft has been on the weirdo programming path for some time now it
seems. I kindly overlooked how the J# libraries are not included in
either XP or Vista, for god's sake its your programming language.

Don't slither off like earlier in this topic posters with MICROSOFT in
their signature did not say "Who Needs HTML Emails, Hyperlinks ect.."
then made the most idiotic statements about accepting text emails only
as a preference.

What possible support do anyone need for Entourage, it is so NOT
Outlook and stripped down, what is so hard to get with the program? I
thought it was Microsoft's effort of staying in the Mac's theme of
"Easy To Use Program" but found it is a yet another cheap ploy to send
Mac "3rd rate products" to keep home looking good.

Don't accuse me of a "Flame" here, how dare you when I as the buyer of
Office 2008 is the one who got burned!

 

[Ric Willmot]

Well, you know what, I think it is about time we stopped accepting
sub-standard responses from organizations like Microsoft.
It is quite valid to let them know through any means possible that they are
treating us poorly.
I mean really, no hyperlinks in Entourage?
C'mon. That is so average as to be insulting!
I am fed up with organizations like MS, TypePad, AWeber and a raft of others
who promise the world in their marketing, charge us a fortune for their
product, and then do not accept any accountability for non-performance or a
lack of customer service.
I guarantee you that if we continue to make others aware of the shortcomings
in groups like this, and that informs people like me, we will not buy
sub-standard products and the free market system begins to operate!
Thank you for the debate and letting me have a say, this is very worthwhile
and I don't see it as being a rant or a flame to read the earlier comments.
Rgds,
Ric Willmot
Australia
www.executivewisdom.com

 

[Diane Ross]

I guarantee you that if we continue to make others aware of the shortcomings
in groups like this, and that informs people like me, we will not buy
sub-standard products and the free market system begins to operate!
Thank you for the debate and letting me have a say, this is very worthwhile
and I don't see it as being a rant or a flame to read the earlier comments.

Your best bet on getting any change is to send feedback to Microsoft. I also
posted a blog article where users can spout off and hopefully get the eye
from Microsoft as additional info on what users like and dislike.

Get your feelings off your chest about what you like and don't like about
Entourage. No Microsoft bashing allowed and no foul language. Hope this is
cathartic. We will not be responding to comments. This is just an
opportunity for you guys to sound off.

Pros and Cons of using Entourage 2008 (The Entourage Help Blog)
<http://blog.entourage.mvps.org/2008/07/pros_and_cons.html>

 

[M. Veum]

:

I guarantee you that if we continue to make others aware of the shortcomings
in groups like this, and that informs people like me, we will not buy
sub-standard products and the free market system begins to operate!
Thank you for the debate and letting me have a say, this is very worthwhile
and I don't see it as being a rant or a flame to read the earlier comments.

Your best bet on getting any change is to send feedback to Microsoft.
I also posted a blog article where users can spout off and hopefully get
the eye from Microsoft as additional info on what users like and dislike.





Get your feelings off your chest about what you like and don't like about
Entourage. No Microsoft bashing allowed and no foul language. Hope this
is cathartic. We will not be responding to comments. This is just an opportunity
for you guys to sound off.





Pros and Cons of using Entourage 2008 (The Entourage Help Blog)






-- Diane

 

[M. Veum]

Okay, so I'm probably like several others who just started using Entourage and was shocked that I couldn't add a hyperlink to text. In any event, I was amused by the various postings on this but can anyone answer a simple question as to when it will be fixed? It doesn't matter if you are a "die-hard" for text format or prefer html, it's a simple and expected feature that should be incorporated in the next service pack release or sooner. So I'm over it already, because all the other great features still make it my preferred email client but I would really like to see a fix soon.

 

[Sharon]

I just upgraded thinking for sure the newest version will let me add a hyperlink and lo and behold...what a waste of time! I use hyperlinks in my e-mail all of the time and will now go back to gmail.

Where is the hyperlink button? I hope I just can't find it.





Since 2004 Entourage has been the ONLY email program to not include hyperlink.
I was forced to use an external script or cut and paste from a word processing
doc. For that reason alone I've been using Mac Mail.





It is hard for me to believe that in 2008 Entourage STILL doesn't support
hyperlink. It is sooo 90's to be forced to include an entire URL in an
email.

 

[Barry Wainwright]

Okay, so I'm probably like several others who just started using
Entourage and was shocked that I couldn't add a hyperlink to text. In
any event, I was amused by the various postings on this but can
anyone answer a simple question as to when it will be fixed? It
doesn't matter if you are a "die-hard" for text format or prefer
html, it's a simple and expected feature that should be incorporated
in the next service pack release or sooner. So I'm over it already,
because all the other great features still make it my preferred email
client but I would really like to see a fix soon.

simply put - nobody here can say 'when' or even 'if'. This is a
peer-to-peer support group, MS staff may occasionally post but most of
the support you get is from other users like you. Even the MVPs are just
users of the applications. We rarely have any insight into the timeline
on specific fixes, and when we do our hands would be tied with a
non-Disclosure agreement.

As other have pointed out, your best bet is to 'send feedback' - that
will give the developers a feel for how many people really ant this
'feature'.

Personally, I don't want it. I prefer to see where links in my received
emails are sending me before I click on them. I prefer plain text mail,
but I'm not such a die-hard as some - I will use HTML when it is
_appropriate_. However I have never seen the need to disguise the target
of a link. This doesn't make your attitude and desire 'wrong', it just
goes to show that we all use the apps in different ways and we shouldn't
expect the whole world to have a single consensus on what should be in
an email client. Life would be boring without diversity!

 

[Barry Wainwright]

I just upgraded thinking for sure the newest version will let me add
a hyperlink and lo and behold...what a waste of time! I use
hyperlinks in my e-mail all of the time and will now go back to
gmail.

Are you serious? You upgraded _just_ to get hyperlinks?

wow!

 

[Ed Kimball]

simply put - nobody here can say 'when' or even 'if'. This is a
peer-to-peer support group, MS staff may occasionally post but most of
the support you get is from other users like you. Even the MVPs are just
users of the applications. We rarely have any insight into the timeline
on specific fixes, and when we do our hands would be tied with a
non-Disclosure agreement.

As other have pointed out, your best bet is to 'send feedback' - that
will give the developers a feel for how many people really ant this
'feature'.

Personally, I don't want it. I prefer to see where links in my received
emails are sending me before I click on them. I prefer plain text mail,
but I'm not such a die-hard as some - I will use HTML when it is
_appropriate_. However I have never seen the need to disguise the target
of a link. This doesn't make your attitude and desire 'wrong', it just
goes to show that we all use the apps in different ways and we shouldn't
expect the whole world to have a single consensus on what should be in
an email client. Life would be boring without diversity!

Barry -- when you hover over a link in Entourage (at least in 2004), the app
will normally display the destination URL in the lower right corner (below
the preview pane in Preview Below view). I usually check that out before
clicking a link -- even a link from someone I know.