FP: why vti_cnf ???

[SleeperMan]

Why FP ALWAYS makes two extra folders - vti_cnf and vti_pvt? do i HAVE to
copy them to my server or not?
I make pages with FP but now since i changed my server provider, i will
upload them with ftp, so i'd like to know
Thanks.

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

If you FTP you don't need to FTP any of the FP _vt* folders




| Why FP ALWAYS makes two extra folders - vti_cnf and vti_pvt? do i HAVE to
| copy them to my server or not?
| I make pages with FP but now since i changed my server provider, i will
| upload them with ftp, so i'd like to know
| Thanks.
|
|

 

[SleeperMan]

If you FTP you don't need to FTP any of the FP _vt* folders

So, i guess they are just for FP working, right? I suppose i can't make FP
to stop them making, can i? They are real pain in the ass...

It's just annoying since i can't just upload whole dir before i delete those
folders each time or upload file by file..., on the other hand i like FP
sicne i can make my pages nicely, while most other web makers require
knowledge of html code...i like to make things as WYSIWYG...
Or maybe you know for some other program who cn do this?

 

[Kevin Spencer]

These folders are used locally by FrontPage to manage your web. Do not
delete the local copies. In addition, they are used when publishing via
FrontPage server extensions, which is by far the most common way (and
prefereable) to upload a web site.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Everybody picks their nose,
But some people are better at hiding it.

 

[SleeperMan]

These folders are used locally by FrontPage to manage your web. Do not
delete the local copies. In addition, they are used when publishing
via FrontPage server extensions, which is by far the most common way
(and prefereable) to upload a web site.

my service provider told me that managing my web site via FP is a risky
thing and not advised to do...

 

[Tom Pepper Willett]

Please define "risky" and provide some of the examples or documentation they
gave you.

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===
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| my service provider told me that managing my web site via FP is a risky
| thing and not advised to do...
|
|
|
| >
| > | >> Stefan B Rusynko wrote:
| >>> If you FTP you don't need to FTP any of the FP _vt* folders
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> | >>>> Why FP ALWAYS makes two extra folders - vti_cnf and vti_pvt? do i
| >>>> HAVE to copy them to my server or not?
| >>>> I make pages with FP but now since i changed my server provider, i
| >>>> will upload them with ftp, so i'd like to know
| >>>> Thanks.
| >>
| >> So, i guess they are just for FP working, right? I suppose i can't
| >> make FP to stop them making, can i? They are real pain in the ass...
| >>
| >> It's just annoying since i can't just upload whole dir before i
| >> delete those folders each time or upload file by file..., on the
| >> other hand i like FP sicne i can make my pages nicely, while most
| >> other web makers require knowledge of html code...i like to make
| >> things as WYSIWYG... Or maybe you know for some other program who cn do
| >> this?
|
|
|

 

[Mike Mueller]

Ask him why, as I do not believe him. I manage al of my
sites with FP, even though alot of my content is no longer
created in FP. I also manage the servers my sites are on,
and I have had no problems.

Mike


: Kevin Spencer wrote:
: > These folders are used locally by FrontPage to manage
your web. Do not
: > delete the local copies. In addition, they are used when
publishing
: > via FrontPage server extensions, which is by far the
most common way
: > (and prefereable) to upload a web site.
: >
:
:
: my service provider told me that managing my web site via
FP is a risky
: thing and not advised to do...
:
:
:
: >
: > : >> Stefan B Rusynko wrote:
: >>> If you FTP you don't need to FTP any of the FP _vt*
folders
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> : >>>> Why FP ALWAYS makes two extra folders - vti_cnf and
vti_pvt? do i
: >>>> HAVE to copy them to my server or not?
: >>>> I make pages with FP but now since i changed my
server provider, i
: >>>> will upload them with ftp, so i'd like to know
: >>>> Thanks.
: >>
: >> So, i guess they are just for FP working, right? I
suppose i can't
: >> make FP to stop them making, can i? They are real pain
in the ass...
: >>
: >> It's just annoying since i can't just upload whole dir
before i
: >> delete those folders each time or upload file by
file..., on the
: >> other hand i like FP sicne i can make my pages nicely,
while most
: >> other web makers require knowledge of html code...i
like to make
: >> things as WYSIWYG... Or maybe you know for some other
program who cn do
: >> this?
:
:
:

 

[Kevin Spencer]

my service provider told me that managing my web site via FP is a risky

thing and not advised to do...

Then your service provider is ignorant and not to be trusted.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Everybody picks their nose,
But some people are better at hiding it.

 

[SleeperMan]

Please define "risky" and provide some of the examples or
documentation they gave you.

he said intrusion is more likely in case FP extensions are enabled...

 

[Tom Pepper Willett]

Intrusion is likely into any server or computer if the proper security steps
are not taken.

He still hasn't told you why intrusion is more likely. This is the old
general cop-out due to ignorance.

Anyway, they aren't going to tell you much more. That is the case with
certain hosts who do not have a clue about configuring and using FP server
extensions, so they use the old "risky" cop out.

Sorry you are having these issues. I would suggest you might wish to change
to a host that does provide the extensions. Those that do and who support
them, know how to keep them secure.

FWIW, I've been running FP server extensions on our server for years. And
with proper security in place.


--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
How to ask a newsgroup question:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
===
| Tom Pepper Willett wrote:
| > Please define "risky" and provide some of the examples or
| > documentation they gave you.
|
| he said intrusion is more likely in case FP extensions are enabled...
|
|
| >
| >> my service provider told me that managing my web site via FP is a
| >> risky thing and not advised to do...
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>>
| >>> | >>>> Stefan B Rusynko wrote:
| >>>>> If you FTP you don't need to FTP any of the FP _vt* folders
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>> | >>>>>> Why FP ALWAYS makes two extra folders - vti_cnf and vti_pvt? do i
| >>>>>> HAVE to copy them to my server or not?
| >>>>>> I make pages with FP but now since i changed my server provider,
| >>>>>> i will upload them with ftp, so i'd like to know
| >>>>>> Thanks.
| >>>>
| >>>> So, i guess they are just for FP working, right? I suppose i can't
| >>>> make FP to stop them making, can i? They are real pain in the
| >>>> ass...
| >>>>
| >>>> It's just annoying since i can't just upload whole dir before i
| >>>> delete those folders each time or upload file by file..., on the
| >>>> other hand i like FP sicne i can make my pages nicely, while most
| >>>> other web makers require knowledge of html code...i like to make
| >>>> things as WYSIWYG... Or maybe you know for some other program who
| >>>> cn do this?
|
|
|

 

[SleeperMan]

Intrusion is likely into any server or computer if the proper
security steps are not taken.

He still hasn't told you why intrusion is more likely. This is the
old general cop-out due to ignorance.

Anyway, they aren't going to tell you much more. That is the case
with certain hosts who do not have a clue about configuring and using
FP server extensions, so they use the old "risky" cop out.

Sorry you are having these issues. I would suggest you might wish to
change to a host that does provide the extensions. Those that do and
who support them, know how to keep them secure.

FWIW, I've been running FP server extensions on our server for years.
And with proper security in place.

Aha...well, it's good to know more about this. My provider can and will
enable these extensions if i ask him, he just told me this "security"
reasons... in fact, i wonder too what these ext. have to do with greater
security risk...but, on the other hand, it's no problem to upload via ftp
program, and i can left out those vti files that way...