Agreed, and; unless they are being redone anyways, I would
just leave them alone.
: However, there are sites that view just fine and will
never validated, unless redone.
:
: --
: ==============================================
: Thomas A. Rowe
: Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
:
:
http://www.Ecom-Data.com
: ==============================================
:
:
: : > Q: Why do the developers want the pages to validate?
: > A: Answered by you: "Visitors to web sites only care
that
: > the site is viewable in the browser of their choice"
: >
: >
: > : > : Visitors to web sites only care that the site is
viewable
: > in the browser of their choice and has the
: > : content they are looking for.
: > :
: > : The only people I have ever heard of, that are
concerned
: > about pages validating, are web developers.
: > :
: > : --
: > : ==============================================
: > : Thomas A. Rowe
: > : Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > :
: > :
http://www.Ecom-Data.com
: > : ==============================================
: > :
: > :
: > message
: > : : > : > They are the very definition of HTML. You can
follow
: > them or not. If you follow them, your pages
: > : > will validate and you will be happy and prosperous.
If
: > you don't follow them, your teeth will get
: > : > long, and you will be an ugly person.
: > : >
: > : > The community and the manufacturers have embraced
them
: > as the "standards". Call it what you will.
: > : >
: > : > --
: > : > Murray
: > : > --------------
: > : > MVP FrontPage
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > : >> From Merriam-Webster Online:
: > : >>
: > : >> recommendation:
: > : >>
: > : >> 1a: the act of recommending
: > : >> 1b: something (as a procedure) recommended
: > : >>
: > : >> The W3C states they provide recommendations. So far
: > nowhere have I seen them state that they are
: > : >> issuing "standards".
: > : >> --
: > : >> ==============================================
: > : >> Thomas A. Rowe
: > : >> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > : >>
: > : >>
http://www.Ecom-Data.com
: > : >> ==============================================
: > : >>
: > : >>
: > message
: > : >> : > : >>> The recommendations are the standard.
: > : >>>
: > : >>> --
: > : >>> Murray
: > : >>> --------------
: > : >>> MVP FrontPage
: > : >>>
: > : >>>
message
: > : >>> : > : >>>> That is one way of looking at it, but that still
: > doesn't make them standards.
: > : >>>>
: > : >>>> --
: > : >>>> ==============================================
: > : >>>> Thomas A. Rowe
: > : >>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > : >>>>
: > : >>>>
http://www.Ecom-Data.com
: > : >>>> ==============================================
: > : >>>>
: > : >>>>
in
: > message
: > : >>>> : > : >>>>> Well, Tom, it seems that all of the browser
vendors
: > are adopting a "standard" of adhering to
: > : >>>>> the recommendations.
: > : >>>>>
: > : >>>>> ;-)
: > : >>>>>
: > : >>>>> --
: > : >>>>>
: > : >>>>> Kevin Spencer
: > : >>>>> Microsoft MVP
: > : >>>>>
: > : >>>>> Help test our new betas,
: > : >>>>> DSI PrintManager, Miradyne Component Libraries:
: > : >>>>>
http://www.miradyne.net
: > : >>>>>
message
: > : >>>>> : > : >>>>>> There are no HTML standards, just
recommendations.
: > : >>>>>>
: > : >>>>>> --
: > : >>>>>> ==============================================
: > : >>>>>> Thomas A. Rowe
: > : >>>>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > : >>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>
http://www.Ecom-Data.com
: > : >>>>>> ==============================================
: > : >>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>
: > : >>>>>> "Murray" <
[email protected]>
wrote in
: > message
: > : >>>>>> : > : >>>>>>> This does NOT benefit the user. It confuses
them.
: > This attitude is what has gotten IE into
: > : >>>>>>> the hole it's in now - all this making nice
stuff.
: > There's a perfectly good set of standards
: > : >>>>>>> out there. They should not just ignore them
willy
: > nilly.
: > : >>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>> --
: > : >>>>>>> Murray
: > : >>>>>>> --------------
: > : >>>>>>> MVP FrontPage
: > : >>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>
: > message
: > : >>>>>>> : > : >>>>>>>> Very simple if the browser can understand
what is
: > want or is capable of display a page when
: > : >>>>>>>> the code is badly written this is a benefit
for
: > the user * of the browser. Browsers that do
: > : >>>>>>>> not do this penalize users as a way of get
back
: > at developers of the site, by making the
: > : >>>>>>>> site look bad.
: > : >>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>> * User in this case, are folks that just want
to
: > view a web site for the info it contains,
: > : >>>>>>>> they do not care how the site was coded, etc.
: > : >>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>
==============================================
: > : >>>>>>>> Thomas A. Rowe
: > : >>>>>>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > : >>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>
http://www.Ecom-Data.com
: > : >>>>>>>>
==============================================
: > : >>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>> "P@tty Ayers"
: > : >>>>>>>> : > : >>>>>>>>>I guess whether IE's laissez-faire behavior
is
: > "wrong" or not could be debated, but I can't
: > : >>>>>>>>>see how you can call it "penalizing" for the
: > other browsers to interpret code accurately
: > : >>>>>>>>>and correctly, Thomas.
: > : >>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>> --
: > : >>>>>>>>> Patty Ayers |
www.WebDevBiz.com
: > : >>>>>>>>> Free Articles on the Business of Web
Development
: > : >>>>>>>>> Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form,
: > Estimate Worksheet
: > : >>>>>>>>> --
: > : >>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>
: > message
: > : >>>>>>>>> : > : >>>>>>>>>> IE doesn't penalized users if the code is
: > wrong, but still readable, whereas other
: > : >>>>>>>>>> browsers do.
: > : >>>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>> --
: > : >>>>>>>>>>
==============================================
: > : >>>>>>>>>> Thomas A. Rowe
: > : >>>>>>>>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > : >>>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>>
http://www.Ecom-Data.com
: > : >>>>>>>>>>
==============================================
: > : >>>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>> "Murray" <
[email protected]>
: > wrote in message
: > : >>>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>>> Yep - as Patty notes, IE will forgive you.
: > Other browsers will not. IE is wrong to do
: > : >>>>>>>>>>> this.
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>>> --
: > : >>>>>>>>>>> Murray
: > : >>>>>>>>>>> --------------
: > : >>>>>>>>>>> MVP FrontPage
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>>> "Scott" <
[email protected]>
: > wrote in message
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>
: >
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>> Would that make it appear on one computer
and
: > not on another - I would assume
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>> a missing octothorpe would be an all or
: > nothing phenomenon?
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>> "Murray" wrote:
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>> All hex color values MUST be prefixed
with
: > the octothorpe "#". Have you
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>> done this?
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>> #DDDDDD?
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>> Murray
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>> MVP FrontPage
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scott"
<
[email protected]>
: > wrote in message
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>>
: >
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>> >I have a frontpage site where I've used
hex
: > colors EEEEEE and F2F2F2 to
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>> > display different shades of gray in a
: > table. On my computer, and most
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>> > others, it displays fine. However, I
have
: > a client who apparently can't
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>> > display EEEEEE or F2F2F2 (they all
look
: > white on her screen). She can see
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>> > DDDDDD (which is almost the same),
She
: > has a ATI Radeon Xpress with Benq
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>> > monitor. Is this common? Should I
use a
: > different color, or is it simply
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>> > some problem with her setup. Thanks
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>
: > : >>>>>>
: > : >>>>>
: > : >>>>>
: > : >>>>>
: > : >>>>
: > : >>>>
: > : >>>
: > : >>>
: > : >>
: > : >>
: > : >
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