How can section headers/footers be pared back?

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ZA must be off for MS Office site

Some files have loads of different header/footer sections, so I have such as
[odd page footer - section 10]. I wish all header/footers uniform. Neither
[copy/Paste] nor [File Insert] to a new template enforce the new template's
header/footer style.

Multiple header/footer sections were automatically created when adding
column commands to text within the document.

Is it simply a case of living with them, using such as [same a previous
header/footer] commands to tell Word 07 what is required?
 
S

Shauna Kelly

Hi
Multiple header/footer sections were automatically created when adding
column commands to text within the document.

That's the expected behaviour. Word uses a different section for each part
of the document with a different number of columns. That is, you'll always
have a section break when you change the number of columns. And, each
section has its own first, odd and even header and footer.

Yes, use "same as previous" to ensure that all the headers and footers in
the document are the same.

Hope this helps.

Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word


"ZA must be off for MS Office site"
Some files have loads of different header/footer sections, so I have such
as
[odd page footer - section 10]. I wish all header/footers uniform.
Neither
[copy/Paste] nor [File Insert] to a new template enforce the new
template's
header/footer style.

Multiple header/footer sections were automatically created when adding
column commands to text within the document.

Is it simply a case of living with them, using such as [same a previous
header/footer] commands to tell Word 07 what is required?
 
Z

ZA must be off for MS Office site

The whole thing is screwy, & I suspect that MS have not done their job aright
- one should be able to columnise charts without having to impact
headers/footers, and without having lots of dead space between sections.

Revamping is throwing wobblies, too. Among other things the file skips two
pages in toto - section 7 is p19, immediately followed by section 8 p21.
Likewise S9 skips p23 & begins as p23. Trying Inspect Document, I removed
headers/footers, checked the results, and found that some relay had been done
& pp18 & 20 had been skipped. Did another Inspect Doc, removing Doc. Props &
PI, and Custom XML, and found just p18 skipped.

OK, it's a complex file, but it's not the first time I've found that
sections are easier to insert than remove, and it's a bind to have to forego
multiple columns.



Shauna Kelly said:
Hi
Multiple header/footer sections were automatically created when adding
column commands to text within the document.

That's the expected behaviour. Word uses a different section for each part
of the document with a different number of columns. That is, you'll always
have a section break when you change the number of columns. And, each
section has its own first, odd and even header and footer.

Yes, use "same as previous" to ensure that all the headers and footers in
the document are the same.

Hope this helps.

Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word


"ZA must be off for MS Office site"
Some files have loads of different header/footer sections, so I have such
as
[odd page footer - section 10]. I wish all header/footers uniform.
Neither
[copy/Paste] nor [File Insert] to a new template enforce the new
template's
header/footer style.

Multiple header/footer sections were automatically created when adding
column commands to text within the document.

Is it simply a case of living with them, using such as [same a previous
header/footer] commands to tell Word 07 what is required?
 
S

Shauna Kelly

Hi

Make sure that every section (a) is set to start on a New Page or (for
columns) is Continuous and (b) that each section's page numbering is set to
Continue from previous section.

You can do that in the UI at File > Page Setup and Insert > Page Numbers (to
avoid actually inserting page numbers, click Close, not OK, to get out of
the Page Numbers dialog box). Or, you can do it in code.

Hope this helps.

Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word


"ZA must be off for MS Office site"
The whole thing is screwy, & I suspect that MS have not done their job
aright
- one should be able to columnise charts without having to impact
headers/footers, and without having lots of dead space between sections.

Revamping is throwing wobblies, too. Among other things the file skips
two
pages in toto - section 7 is p19, immediately followed by section 8 p21.
Likewise S9 skips p23 & begins as p23. Trying Inspect Document, I removed
headers/footers, checked the results, and found that some relay had been
done
& pp18 & 20 had been skipped. Did another Inspect Doc, removing Doc.
Props &
PI, and Custom XML, and found just p18 skipped.

OK, it's a complex file, but it's not the first time I've found that
sections are easier to insert than remove, and it's a bind to have to
forego
multiple columns.



Shauna Kelly said:
Hi
Multiple header/footer sections were automatically created when adding
column commands to text within the document.

That's the expected behaviour. Word uses a different section for each
part
of the document with a different number of columns. That is, you'll
always
have a section break when you change the number of columns. And, each
section has its own first, odd and even header and footer.

Yes, use "same as previous" to ensure that all the headers and footers in
the document are the same.

Hope this helps.

Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word


"ZA must be off for MS Office site"
Some files have loads of different header/footer sections, so I have
such
as
[odd page footer - section 10]. I wish all header/footers uniform.
Neither
[copy/Paste] nor [File Insert] to a new template enforce the new
template's
header/footer style.

Multiple header/footer sections were automatically created when adding
column commands to text within the document.

Is it simply a case of living with them, using such as [same a previous
header/footer] commands to tell Word 07 what is required?
 
V

vinyamar777

Al sections have been "continuous", with no problems with numbering. I guess
my itch for neatness cannot be met other than by wapping out all column
commands. This I have done, then inserted file into a new file. I think
I'll leave it at this.

Not ideal, but this workaround will do till MS rewrites their software.

Thanks for your time.

All the best.


--
Still round the corner there may wait, a new door, or a secret gate...


Shauna Kelly said:
Hi

Make sure that every section (a) is set to start on a New Page or (for
columns) is Continuous and (b) that each section's page numbering is set to
Continue from previous section.

You can do that in the UI at File > Page Setup and Insert > Page Numbers (to
avoid actually inserting page numbers, click Close, not OK, to get out of
the Page Numbers dialog box). Or, you can do it in code.

Hope this helps.

Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word


"ZA must be off for MS Office site"
The whole thing is screwy, & I suspect that MS have not done their job
aright
- one should be able to columnise charts without having to impact
headers/footers, and without having lots of dead space between sections.

Revamping is throwing wobblies, too. Among other things the file skips
two
pages in toto - section 7 is p19, immediately followed by section 8 p21.
Likewise S9 skips p23 & begins as p23. Trying Inspect Document, I removed
headers/footers, checked the results, and found that some relay had been
done
& pp18 & 20 had been skipped. Did another Inspect Doc, removing Doc.
Props &
PI, and Custom XML, and found just p18 skipped.

OK, it's a complex file, but it's not the first time I've found that
sections are easier to insert than remove, and it's a bind to have to
forego
multiple columns.



Shauna Kelly said:
Hi

Multiple header/footer sections were automatically created when adding
column commands to text within the document.

That's the expected behaviour. Word uses a different section for each
part
of the document with a different number of columns. That is, you'll
always
have a section break when you change the number of columns. And, each
section has its own first, odd and even header and footer.

Yes, use "same as previous" to ensure that all the headers and footers in
the document are the same.

Hope this helps.

Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word


"ZA must be off for MS Office site"
Some files have loads of different header/footer sections, so I have
such
as
[odd page footer - section 10]. I wish all header/footers uniform.
Neither
[copy/Paste] nor [File Insert] to a new template enforce the new
template's
header/footer style.

Multiple header/footer sections were automatically created when adding
column commands to text within the document.

Is it simply a case of living with them, using such as [same a previous
header/footer] commands to tell Word 07 what is required?
 

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