odd and even page headers, and section breaks

[IndianSummer]

Hi, I have a document with 3 sections at the moment. The first section just
contains the title page, the last section just contains the last page. The
body of the document is contained in section 2. The setting for "Same as
previous" has been turned off in all the headers and footers.

I need to introduce odd and even pages in the body of the document,
specifically at page 6, so i can have different headers and footers in that
part of the document. I need page 6 to be an odd page.

I've tried a number of ways and none of them have worked.

I've tried clicking in the first line of text on page 6 (which incidentally
has a style applied which inserts a page break before), then Insert, Break,
Odd page. Turned off "same as previous" in the header/footer. Then I clicked
in that new section, went into the File, PageSetup, Layout and selected
Different odd and even headers, For this Section.

That resulted in me getting odd and even page headers and footers throughout
the whole document.

I tried going into the file, pagesetup dialog in the other sections and
turning off the Different odd/even headers, For this Section. That removed
the odd/even headers from the entire document, including the section where i
first turned them on.

In fact, i seem to get that result regardless of what i try?? ie. turn the
different odd/even header footer on in one section and it applies to whole
document, turn them off in one section, and they get turned off in the whole
document.

I tried going into page 5 and just inserting a Next page section break. Then
selected different header/footer, for this section, in the pagesetup. Same
result.

If anyone can point me in the right direction i would be extremely grateful.
I have read the MVPs site pages on section breaks, plus many of the linked
sites, plus many posts here...nothing seems to be quite the issue i've got.

Thanks in advance,
Helen

 

[IndianSummer]

PS. I'm using Word 2003 as you may have guessed
Thanks.

 

[Graham Mayor]

How can page 6 be an odd page? Page 6 will always be an even page. Pages 5
and 7 are odd pages!

That issue aside, you are correct that the odd/even header/footers will
apply throughout the document. Whether you can work around that rather
depends on what it is that you are trying to achieve with headers/footers.

You can use the same odd/even header content in the first section and
different odd/even header contents in the second section

or

You could forget about the section breaks and use a conditional field
construction eg

{ IF{ Page }> 5 "{ IF{ =MOD({ Page },2) } = 1 "This is the odd page header"
"This is the even page header" }" "This is the page 1 to 5 header" }


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[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Unlike "Different first page," which can be enabled for specific sections,
"Different odd and even" is a document-level choice. As Graham mentions, you
can duplicate the Odd/Even Page Header/Footer in given sections as required,
but you must have both.

Moreover, Word will not allow you to assign an even number to an "odd page."
Once you have, in effect, told Word you plan to duplex the document, Word
will hold you to it. If you insert an Odd Page section break, and the
previous section ends on an odd page, Word will insert a blank even page to
make up the difference.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

 

[IndianSummer]

OK sorry - i've found out (at the Microsoft sit) that the different header &
footer setting applies document wide!!! Who knew?!?

I wish they would have changed the drop-down list in the Layout, Preview,
Apply To setting to reflect that. Surely it suggests that you can apply that
setting to just the section...Oh well.. happy to have the info.

 

[IndianSummer]

lol Graham, yes of course you are right about page 6 always being an even
page! What I didn't explain at all, is that i needed the content which was on
page 6 to be on the first odd page in my new section - in which section I
wanted to have the different odd/even headers.

Thanks heaps for the conditional field you have offered, that will be
extremely helpful - i have a couple of documents I can use that in.

Many thanks for replying, and best regards,
Helen

thanks heaps for the

 

[IndianSummer]

Thank you for replying Suzanne, I really appreciate it.

Apologies for sounding confused over what the words "odd" and "even" mean.
Just missing that one simple fact that the different odd/even header/footer
is a global setting, had me babbling and tearing my hair out!!

While I'm here.. in my previous searches for info i have read a number of
your replies to other posts. I always find them very informative and easy to
understand. Many thanks!
helen

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Thank you. I'm glad to see evidence that our NNTP posts are finally making
it to the Web interface; as you may have noticed, our replies were actually
posted a couple of days ago.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org