how do I change the default mail format for message replies?

J

Jonesy

Are you just always in a bad mood?

Brian Tillman said:
I found your prior reply just fine, but it would have helped if you had used
cut judiciously instead of retaining so much unrelated text from the prior
messages.
 
J

Jonesy

I think a lot of people in this thread are making assumptions that aren't
necessarily true.

The biggest reason I'd like to have everything go out (or at least start
out) as html and/or rich text is for cases like forwarding an email.

I get emails from my unix servers, they're in plain text. I'd like to
forward one of them to a colleague and all of the sudden, my forward has to
be plain text. I don't like that. And don't see why Microsoft should assume
that I would.
 
G

Gordon

Jonesy said:
I get emails from my unix servers, they're in plain text. I'd like to
forward one of them to a colleague and all of the sudden, my forward has
to
be plain text. I don't like that. And don't see why Microsoft should
assume
that I would.

And as the original is in Plain text, what is the point in converting it to
any other format? There are no graphics or anything in plain text so I have
no idea why you would want to do that. There's just no point to it.
 
B

Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

Are you just always in a bad mood?

I'm never in a bad mood. I stated my opinion in a straightforward way. You
are reading into it emotions not expressed.
 
J

Jonesy

The point would be that I want the NEW part of my message to be rich text,
not plain text.

And btw for those that say just click the format button (hi tillman), that's
not really quite accurate. That will let you start using html/rich text. But
what's on-screen is already formatted nice and ugly for you. For example, my
sig and the selected font for typing the new email. So to really more like...
click options, format, select your text, change the font... re-format your
sig... and VOILA! That's all you have to do.

So anyway, it's not that I want to _convert_ the original plain text
message, but rather, I want to create a NEW email (in rich text) that
contains plain text from another email that I want to forward.

And while I understand I can do all of this with multiple
pointy-clicky-cutty-pastey motions, I think the point of most in this thread
is that seems a bit ridiculous. Outlook shouldn't make assumptions on my
behalf... I'm perfectly capable of messing things up on my own.
 
G

Gordon

Jonesy said:
The point would be that I want the NEW part of my message to be rich text,
not plain text.

Then don't forward - copy and paste into a new RTF email...
 
J

Jonesy

Yeah, I said that already. That is a given. I think we're all clear that we
could copy/paste and do what we want. The point is that if I do a FORWARD,
then Outlook shouldn't make any assumptions because it doesn't know who I'm
forwarding it to, so the whole logic about "well it was already plain text"
is moot.

I know I can do what I want with a lot of pointy-clicky. The point of this
thread is that seems pretty awkward and an option to let you set how you
prefer to handle such things would be better.
 
B

Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

And btw for those that say just click the format button (hi tillman),
Hi.

So anyway, it's not that I want to _convert_ the original plain text
message, but rather, I want to create a NEW email (in rich text) that
contains plain text from another email that I want to forward.

You can't change the underlying formatting of a message part way through.
It's either all Plain Text, all HTML, or all Rich Text. You're asking for a
cat to become a dog halfway between the snout and tail.
 
R

Ronnie

Has there been a solution to this?

I have a plain text message that I'm forwarding to my work group and I for
business reasons I NEED this to be changed to HTML for editing purposes. What
do I do?



JOSHUABEIJING said:
Can no one recommend an add-in to fix this, or some other solution? You two
bickering about the reason you don't have this option/why you should is
certainly not helping. Anyone can click the right places (manually) to
convert the message back to HTML, then switch to a font that isn't horrible ,
then re-paste in a nice signature, but certainly there must be a
better/faster/2007 solution. Anyone?




Brian Tillman said:
MS Pat C said:
I would like to kindly point out that you have attacked your customer
base when they are turning to you in frustration for answers - and
when they are giving Microsoft wonderful opportunities to listen for
future upgrades to Outlook to meet the customers' needs.

You seem to be under the mistaken assumption that I have a "customer base"
and work for Microsoft.
This is my first exposure to your customer service level and your personal
work
ethic.

You can imply nothing about my work ethic by what I post here. I don't get
paid to post here.
The specific responses that will be linked with your name
"Brian Tillman" and Microsoft are-- calling the customer
"untrainable" and then responding that "no one here will care if the
customer (and therefore all customers) switch to Mac" when the
customer was offended by your "untrainable" remark.

You seem to be reading messages I never posted. Nowhere did I state anyone
was untrainable. Did you even see the question mark in the sentence? I was
asking if the person considered himself untrainable. I had said it is easy
to train oneself to make choices allowed by the software and the person
responded that he disagreed that it was easy to train himself. Ergo, he
must consider himself untrainable, but I decided I had to ask. I don't make
assumptions about people, unlike, apparently, you.
In the future, I
would like to suggest that you keep in mind that you do not represent
your own opinions and that you are a representative of a company and
their brand.

Wrong. Everything I post here is my own opinion. Perhaps you don't
understand what newsgroups are. They're peer-to-peer venues. While
Microsoft employees do occasionally post here, you'll always see "[MSFT]"
after their names. Most of the rest of us are just people who use Outlook
every day.
 
G

Gordon

Ronnie said:
Has there been a solution to this?

I have a plain text message that I'm forwarding to my work group and I for
business reasons I NEED this to be changed to HTML for editing purposes.
What
do I do?

Click on Forward and then change the message format?
If it's in PLAIN TEXT then changing to HTML won't do anything to the message
anyway.
 
L

Les W.

Gosh this is an old thread and I don't see the solution. I'm having this same difficulty with Outlook 2007 at work. I have co-workers that do not havethis problem. They send or forward to me HTML emails with hyperlinks. I checked their settings and sure enough it's HTML. If I forward or reply to the message it changes it to plain text. Often the email is forwarded by themand remains HTML. It's a pain in the butt and I've wasted hours scouring the settings and Internet for an answer. Meanwhile I've devised my own workaround. When I have an HTML message I want to forward I double click to openthe message (not just preview mode) It's still looks like HTML. On the message tab I select other actions/edit message. On the options tab I change from plain text to HTML. Then I close the message and select yes to save. Now when I reply or forward the message it's in HTML and links work etc. It doesn't work to change to HTML after you select reply. You need to open, convert to HTML, save it and then reply or forward. It's maddening because it is just me in my area having this difficulty and no one else. Makes me think it is a messed up setting. But which one is a big mystery.

Les W.

Has there been a solution to this?

I have a plain text message that I'm forwarding to my work group and I for
business reasons I NEED this to be changed to HTML for editing purposes. What
do I do?



JOSHUABEIJING said:
Can no one recommend an add-in to fix this, or some other solution? You two
bickering about the reason you don't have this option/why you should is
certainly not helping. Anyone can click the right places (manually) to
convert the message back to HTML, then switch to a font that isn't horrible ,
then re-paste in a nice signature, but certainly there must be a
better/faster/2007 solution. Anyone?




Brian Tillman said:
I would like to kindly point out that you have attacked your customer
base when they are turning to you in frustration for answers - and
when they are giving Microsoft wonderful opportunities to listen for
future upgrades to Outlook to meet the customers' needs.

You seem to be under the mistaken assumption that I have a "customer base"
and work for Microsoft.

This is my first exposure to your customer service level and your personal
work
ethic.

You can imply nothing about my work ethic by what I post here. I don't get
paid to post here.

The specific responses that will be linked with your name
"Brian Tillman" and Microsoft are-- calling the customer
"untrainable" and then responding that "no one here will care if the
customer (and therefore all customers) switch to Mac" when the
customer was offended by your "untrainable" remark.

You seem to be reading messages I never posted. Nowhere did I state anyone
was untrainable. Did you even see the question mark in the sentence?I was
asking if the person considered himself untrainable. I had said it is easy
to train oneself to make choices allowed by the software and the person
responded that he disagreed that it was easy to train himself. Ergo,he
must consider himself untrainable, but I decided I had to ask. I don't make
assumptions about people, unlike, apparently, you.

In the future, I
would like to suggest that you keep in mind that you do not represent
your own opinions and that you are a representative of a company and
their brand.

Wrong. Everything I post here is my own opinion. Perhaps you don't
understand what newsgroups are. They're peer-to-peer venues. While
Microsoft employees do occasionally post here, you'll always see "[MSFT]"
after their names. Most of the rest of us are just people who use Outlook
every day.
 
L

lesgwat

BTW I didn't mention. Not all messages convert to plain text on reply. Mostly I've seen it on messages from coworkers but not from external parties.
Les W.

Gosh this is an old thread and I don't see the solution. I'm having this same difficulty with Outlook 2007 at work. I have co-workers that do not have this problem. They send or forward to me HTML emails with hyperlinks. I checked their settings and sure enough it's HTML. If I forward or reply to the message it changes it to plain text. Often the email is forwarded by them and remains HTML. It's a pain in the butt and I've wasted hours scouringthe settings and Internet for an answer. Meanwhile I've devised my own workaround. When I have an HTML message I want to forward I double click to open the message (not just preview mode) It's still looks like HTML. On the message tab I select other actions/edit message. On the options tab I changefrom plain text to HTML. Then I close the message and select yes to save. Now when I reply or forward the message it's in HTML and links work etc. Itdoesn't work to change to HTML after you select reply. You need to open, convert to HTML, save it and then reply or forward. It's maddening because it is just me in my area having this difficulty and no one else. Makes me think it is a messed up setting. But which one is a big mystery.



Les W.



Has there been a solution to this?

I have a plain text message that I'm forwarding to my work group and I for
business reasons I NEED this to be changed to HTML for editing purposes.. What
do I do?
Can no one recommend an add-in to fix this, or some other solution? You two
bickering about the reason you don't have this option/why you should is
certainly not helping. Anyone can click the right places (manually) to
convert the message back to HTML, then switch to a font that isn't horrible ,
then re-paste in a nice signature, but certainly there must be a
better/faster/2007 solution. Anyone?




:


I would like to kindly point out that you have attacked your customer
base when they are turning to you in frustration for answers - and
when they are giving Microsoft wonderful opportunities to listen for
future upgrades to Outlook to meet the customers' needs.

You seem to be under the mistaken assumption that I have a "customer base"
and work for Microsoft.

This is my first exposure to your customer service level and yourpersonal
work
ethic.

You can imply nothing about my work ethic by what I post here. I don't get
paid to post here.

The specific responses that will be linked with your name
"Brian Tillman" and Microsoft are-- calling the customer
"untrainable" and then responding that "no one here will care if the
customer (and therefore all customers) switch to Mac" when the
customer was offended by your "untrainable" remark.

You seem to be reading messages I never posted. Nowhere did I state anyone
was untrainable. Did you even see the question mark in the sentence? I was
asking if the person considered himself untrainable. I had said itis easy
to train oneself to make choices allowed by the software and the person
responded that he disagreed that it was easy to train himself. Ergo, he
must consider himself untrainable, but I decided I had to ask. I don't make
assumptions about people, unlike, apparently, you.

In the future, I
would like to suggest that you keep in mind that you do not represent
your own opinions and that you are a representative of a company and
their brand.

Wrong. Everything I post here is my own opinion. Perhaps you don't
understand what newsgroups are. They're peer-to-peer venues. While
Microsoft employees do occasionally post here, you'll always see "[MSFT]"
after their names. Most of the rest of us are just people who use Outlook
every day.
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]
 

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