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Ceejay3112
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jeffrey
Hi,
You can install it on as many computers you want, but you need a license for
each computer you install it on. So if you want to install it on 10
computers, then you need 10 license, but if you only have one license, then
only on one computer. All standard software that is sold, is usually an one
license set, you need to obtain more license to install it on other
computers.
Jeff
You can install it on as many computers you want, but you need a license for
each computer you install it on. So if you want to install it on 10
computers, then you need 10 license, but if you only have one license, then
only on one computer. All standard software that is sold, is usually an one
license set, you need to obtain more license to install it on other
computers.
Jeff
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Gordon
jeffrey said:Hi,
You can install it on as many computers you want, but you need a license
for each computer you install it on.
Not at all. Many Office EULAs allow installation on a desktop AND a
laptop on the same licence.
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jeffrey
Hi,
I have seen people stating that and I get replies from people stating the
EULA is for one PC and one PC only, doesn`t matter if its a desktop or
laptop. I haven`t read the most recent EULA`s for Office XP or Office 2003,
so not sure for that. But I beleive now-a-days, its one license for one
computer.
Jeff
I have seen people stating that and I get replies from people stating the
EULA is for one PC and one PC only, doesn`t matter if its a desktop or
laptop. I haven`t read the most recent EULA`s for Office XP or Office 2003,
so not sure for that. But I beleive now-a-days, its one license for one
computer.
Jeff
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Gordon
jeffrey said:Hi,
I have seen people stating that and I get replies from people stating
the EULA is for one PC and one PC only, doesn`t matter if its a desktop
or laptop. I haven`t read the most recent EULA`s for Office XP or
Office 2003, so not sure for that. But I beleive now-a-days, its one
license for one computer.
Jeff
depends what version of which Office (SBE, full etc etc) but I can
assure you that there are EULAs which permit installing on both a
desktop and a laptop.
Extract from my EULA for Office 2002:
"General License Grant to Install and Use Software Product. You may
install and use one copy of the Software Product on a single computer,
device, workstation, terminal, or other digital electronic or analog
device ("Device"). *You may make a second copy of the Software Product
and install it on a portable Device for the exclusive use of the person
who is the primary user of the first copy of the Software Product*. A
license for the Software Product may not be shared."
--
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Just waiting for Broadband to complete the conversion!(3 weeks and
counting!)
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Chris Schatte
EULA'S for Office 2003 versions:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/eula/en.mspx
Chris Schatte
use the Office Online web based newsreader here:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx
In Office System 2003 applications:
Help/Assistance Pane/open Communities
http://www.microsoft.com/office/eula/en.mspx
Chris Schatte
use the Office Online web based newsreader here:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx
In Office System 2003 applications:
Help/Assistance Pane/open Communities
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Dian Chapman, MVP, MOS
The Office license has always allowed two installs. Previous versions
has a home/work exeption that allowed a person who used it at the
office to install it on their home computer to handle office work. It
was assumed it would be for the same person/same work.
When everyone started getting computers and the kids were doing
homework on dad's home office computer, that was change in the license
to now allow one PC and one "mobile device"...assuming that would be a
laptop. This allows that that dad to do his work on the PC and then
also finish up on his own laptop when dragging work home.
The bottom line is that the license is meant to provide one user with
access to files both at their main location as well as when they
travel or need to continue working at home. But that is meant for that
one person and does not mean that you get two installs for two users.
When in doubt...read it!
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Microsoft MVP, MOS Certified
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has a home/work exeption that allowed a person who used it at the
office to install it on their home computer to handle office work. It
was assumed it would be for the same person/same work.
When everyone started getting computers and the kids were doing
homework on dad's home office computer, that was change in the license
to now allow one PC and one "mobile device"...assuming that would be a
laptop. This allows that that dad to do his work on the PC and then
also finish up on his own laptop when dragging work home.
The bottom line is that the license is meant to provide one user with
access to files both at their main location as well as when they
travel or need to continue working at home. But that is meant for that
one person and does not mean that you get two installs for two users.
When in doubt...read it!
Dian D. Chapman, Technical Consultant
Microsoft MVP, MOS Certified
Editor/TechTrax Ezine
Free Tutorials: http://www.mousetrax.com/techtrax
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Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
If Office was ordered and came with the computer, it is OEM and tied to that
PC and only that PC. It lives and dies with the PC and cannot be
transferred. This may be the license you are talking about.
Office licenses - generally speaking:
Office retail = one desktop and one portable installation, primarily used by
the same person, but not simultaneously. (Portable being laptop or tablet)
Office XP Students and Teachers Edition (now moot) = one installation
period, not usable for upgrade eligibility.
Office 2003 Students and Teachers Edition = 3 installations, no limit on the
configuration of the computer (e.g., 3 desktops, 1 laptop and 2 desktops,
etc.) and not usable for upgrade eligibility.
Office purchased through the OEM = install only on the OEM computer and no
other, may or may not be used for upgrade eligibility, depending on the OEM
license.
--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.
After furious head scratching, jeffrey asked:
| Hi,
|
| I have seen people stating that and I get replies from people stating
| the EULA is for one PC and one PC only, doesn`t matter if its a
| desktop or laptop. I haven`t read the most recent EULA`s for Office
| XP or Office 2003, so not sure for that. But I beleive now-a-days,
| its one license for one computer.
|
| Jeff
|
| || jeffrey wrote:
||| Hi,
|||
||| You can install it on as many computers you want, but you need a
||| license for each computer you install it on.
||
|| Not at all. Many Office EULAs allow installation on a desktop AND a
|| laptop on the same licence.
||
||
|| --
|| Registered Linux User no 240308
|| Just waiting for Broadband to complete the conversion!(3 weeks and
|| counting!)
|| gordonATgbpcomputingDOTcoDOTuk
|| to email me remove the obvious!
PC and only that PC. It lives and dies with the PC and cannot be
transferred. This may be the license you are talking about.
Office licenses - generally speaking:
Office retail = one desktop and one portable installation, primarily used by
the same person, but not simultaneously. (Portable being laptop or tablet)
Office XP Students and Teachers Edition (now moot) = one installation
period, not usable for upgrade eligibility.
Office 2003 Students and Teachers Edition = 3 installations, no limit on the
configuration of the computer (e.g., 3 desktops, 1 laptop and 2 desktops,
etc.) and not usable for upgrade eligibility.
Office purchased through the OEM = install only on the OEM computer and no
other, may or may not be used for upgrade eligibility, depending on the OEM
license.
--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.
After furious head scratching, jeffrey asked:
| Hi,
|
| I have seen people stating that and I get replies from people stating
| the EULA is for one PC and one PC only, doesn`t matter if its a
| desktop or laptop. I haven`t read the most recent EULA`s for Office
| XP or Office 2003, so not sure for that. But I beleive now-a-days,
| its one license for one computer.
|
| Jeff
|
| || jeffrey wrote:
||| Hi,
|||
||| You can install it on as many computers you want, but you need a
||| license for each computer you install it on.
||
|| Not at all. Many Office EULAs allow installation on a desktop AND a
|| laptop on the same licence.
||
||
|| --
|| Registered Linux User no 240308
|| Just waiting for Broadband to complete the conversion!(3 weeks and
|| counting!)
|| gordonATgbpcomputingDOTcoDOTuk
|| to email me remove the obvious!
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garfield-n-odie
No, that is not correct.
http://www.microsoft.com/office/editions/prodinfo/faq.mspx#EEAAA states:
"Licenses for the 2003 release of Office acquired preinstalled on new
computers are single-computer licenses that cannot be transferred or
installed on another computer." This applies to previous versions too.
http://www.microsoft.com/office/editions/prodinfo/faq.mspx#EEAAA states:
"Licenses for the 2003 release of Office acquired preinstalled on new
computers are single-computer licenses that cannot be transferred or
installed on another computer." This applies to previous versions too.
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garfield-n-odie
See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/300273 "OFFXP: Cannot Activate OEM
Edition More Than Once", which says:
The End User License Agreement (Oemeula.txt) for OEM versions of Office
XP contains the following text:
General License Grant to Install and Use. Except as otherwise expressly
provided in this EULA, You may only install and use one copy of the
SOFTWARE PRODUCT on the COMPUTER. The SOFTWARE PRODUCT may not be
installed, accessed, displayed, run, shared or used concurrently on or
from different computers, including a workstation, terminal or other
digital or analog electronic device ("Device"), except as set forth
below for SharePoint Team Services.
Edition More Than Once", which says:
The End User License Agreement (Oemeula.txt) for OEM versions of Office
XP contains the following text:
General License Grant to Install and Use. Except as otherwise expressly
provided in this EULA, You may only install and use one copy of the
SOFTWARE PRODUCT on the COMPUTER. The SOFTWARE PRODUCT may not be
installed, accessed, displayed, run, shared or used concurrently on or
from different computers, including a workstation, terminal or other
digital or analog electronic device ("Device"), except as set forth
below for SharePoint Team Services.
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Dian Chapman, MVP, MOS
That's an OEM license. Yes, I should have clarified that I meant a
non-OEM license, since those have totally different stipulations.
Since the user didn't mention OEM in the post, I didn't assume it was
OEM software???
The purchase license reads:
"General License Grant to Install and Use Software Product. You may
install and use one copy of the Software Product on a single computer,
device, workstation, terminal, or other digital electronic or analog
device ("Device"). You may make a second copy of the Software Product
and install it on a portable Device for the exclusive use of the
person who is the primary user of the first copy of the Software
Product. A license for the Software Product may not be shared. "
And yes, I admit that I may have missed something more recently, but
I've been reading these for over 15 years and as Licensing Mgr for a
major company for many years, I was deeply involved in this issues
with MS, so I'm quite familiar with the history of the Office/Windows
licenses.
Just as using imaging installs was once illegal...things change with
demand. But OEM licenses have always been licensed to the installed PC
ONLY...which is why I've never recommended preinstalled software. When
the PC goes belly-up, you lose the license to operate the product.
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non-OEM license, since those have totally different stipulations.
Since the user didn't mention OEM in the post, I didn't assume it was
OEM software???
The purchase license reads:
"General License Grant to Install and Use Software Product. You may
install and use one copy of the Software Product on a single computer,
device, workstation, terminal, or other digital electronic or analog
device ("Device"). You may make a second copy of the Software Product
and install it on a portable Device for the exclusive use of the
person who is the primary user of the first copy of the Software
Product. A license for the Software Product may not be shared. "
And yes, I admit that I may have missed something more recently, but
I've been reading these for over 15 years and as Licensing Mgr for a
major company for many years, I was deeply involved in this issues
with MS, so I'm quite familiar with the history of the Office/Windows
licenses.
Just as using imaging installs was once illegal...things change with
demand. But OEM licenses have always been licensed to the installed PC
ONLY...which is why I've never recommended preinstalled software. When
the PC goes belly-up, you lose the license to operate the product.
Dian D. Chapman, Technical Consultant
Microsoft MVP, MOS Certified
Editor/TechTrax Ezine
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Dian Chapman, MVP, MOS
I never saw the word OEM mentioned in the original post, so I didn't
go there. Yes, OEM licenses are different.
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go there. Yes, OEM licenses are different.
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Dian Chapman, MVP, MOS
(Thanks for the more complete clarification, Milly.<wink>)
Dian ~
Dian ~
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garfield-n-odie
Some non-OEM copies of Office are limited to one installation like the
OEM copies, and some non-OEM copies of Office allow three installations.
While it's true the original poster did not specify OEM or non-OEM, I
saw nothing in the original post leading to the assumption you made. I
guess when you said "always allowed two installs" in your reply, you
meant the MVP MOS deeply involved licensing manager consultant
definition of the word "always".
OEM copies, and some non-OEM copies of Office allow three installations.
While it's true the original poster did not specify OEM or non-OEM, I
saw nothing in the original post leading to the assumption you made. I
guess when you said "always allowed two installs" in your reply, you
meant the MVP MOS deeply involved licensing manager consultant
definition of the word "always".
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garfield-n-odie
The word RETAIL was not mentioned in the original post either, so why
did you go there? I guess when you said ALWAYS in your reply, you
didn't really mean always.
did you go there? I guess when you said ALWAYS in your reply, you
didn't really mean always.
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Dian Chapman, MVP, MOS
I'm sure you're right....sorry for your confusion.
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Dian Chapman, MVP, MOS
Looks like you're right again. I'm just a real screw-up! Thanks ever
so much for your help!
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so much for your help!
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Microsoft MVP, MOS Certified
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jehrengart
Sorry. I'm still confused here. I have a new laptop (and not even sure
I'm going to keep it) with Office 2003 Trial installed. It has not yet
been activated, however, I plan on purchasing Office 2003 Standard in
some form regardless.
If I buy a full retail boxed version (not upgrade or OEM) can I not
enter the key code into the trial version to convert it? Can I not also
install it from the retail Office CD's on my desktop machine?
Thought that's what MS website said but not sure at all after reading
this thread.
Just trying to find the most economical way and yet stay legal.
Thanks...
I'm going to keep it) with Office 2003 Trial installed. It has not yet
been activated, however, I plan on purchasing Office 2003 Standard in
some form regardless.
If I buy a full retail boxed version (not upgrade or OEM) can I not
enter the key code into the trial version to convert it? Can I not also
install it from the retail Office CD's on my desktop machine?
Thought that's what MS website said but not sure at all after reading
this thread.
Just trying to find the most economical way and yet stay legal.
Thanks...
D
Dian Chapman, MVP, MOS
First, kudos on taking the time to figure it out to do it right. I can
appreciate your frustrations! The rules change a lot, so it's hard to
keep up!
But see the bottom line is that...when you buy a computer with
software preinstalled...the license does NOT belong to YOU! It
literally belongs to the company who sold you the computer and gets
transferred (so to speak) to the actually computer.
In other words, if you blow up the PC, kiss your license and rights to
use that software goodbye! If you check the backup CD that comes with
your PC, it says on the CD (or should) that i cannot be used for
anything other than that PC. You get the CD so you can reinstall
should you need to reformat the disk at any point in the future.
As for whether the OEM (preinstalled) software allows rights to also
install on a laptop, I don't believe you can. But I haven't read an
OEM license in sometime and know there were changes over the last two
years...so READ it.
That said...if you go to a store and buy a shrinkwrap boxed version of
the same software...then YOU own the license. That means you get to
keep the software and install it on a new computer if you blow up the
first one. Preinstalled software can be cheaper, but I personally
never get it installed if I can get around it. Sometimes the mfgr has
rules about not being able to do that...so you have to kick them a
little to get over that!<eg>
Now...as for the trail software...I personally admit that I'm not
quite sure. I'd have to read the license. But I would GUESS that if
you purchase the preinstalled trial...it is the same as OEM software
and hence you probably would not be able to install it on a lappy. But
check that!! The rules may be different now as opposed to a couple
years ago when I lived this stuff.
Therefore, I would assume that...yes, purchasing the preinstalled is
more convenient and maybe cheaper...but if you want to use it like a
personal licensed copy...you may not be able to do that. So you may be
better off hitting the store. It's like insurance...what will be more
of a benefit...cheaper preinstalled or buying your own? Depends on how
long you think that PC will live and whether you'll want to get a new
PC and/or updated software in the future???
Of course, that second install item WILL be an issue and sounds like
your deciding factor...so I'm sorry I can't provide a definitive
answer on that one...but I'll bet someone else here has read the
license more recently and can decipher the facts better.
Hope this helps...
Dian D. Chapman, Technical Consultant
Microsoft MVP, MOS Certified
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appreciate your frustrations! The rules change a lot, so it's hard to
keep up!
But see the bottom line is that...when you buy a computer with
software preinstalled...the license does NOT belong to YOU! It
literally belongs to the company who sold you the computer and gets
transferred (so to speak) to the actually computer.
In other words, if you blow up the PC, kiss your license and rights to
use that software goodbye! If you check the backup CD that comes with
your PC, it says on the CD (or should) that i cannot be used for
anything other than that PC. You get the CD so you can reinstall
should you need to reformat the disk at any point in the future.
As for whether the OEM (preinstalled) software allows rights to also
install on a laptop, I don't believe you can. But I haven't read an
OEM license in sometime and know there were changes over the last two
years...so READ it.
That said...if you go to a store and buy a shrinkwrap boxed version of
the same software...then YOU own the license. That means you get to
keep the software and install it on a new computer if you blow up the
first one. Preinstalled software can be cheaper, but I personally
never get it installed if I can get around it. Sometimes the mfgr has
rules about not being able to do that...so you have to kick them a
little to get over that!<eg>
Now...as for the trail software...I personally admit that I'm not
quite sure. I'd have to read the license. But I would GUESS that if
you purchase the preinstalled trial...it is the same as OEM software
and hence you probably would not be able to install it on a lappy. But
check that!! The rules may be different now as opposed to a couple
years ago when I lived this stuff.
Therefore, I would assume that...yes, purchasing the preinstalled is
more convenient and maybe cheaper...but if you want to use it like a
personal licensed copy...you may not be able to do that. So you may be
better off hitting the store. It's like insurance...what will be more
of a benefit...cheaper preinstalled or buying your own? Depends on how
long you think that PC will live and whether you'll want to get a new
PC and/or updated software in the future???
Of course, that second install item WILL be an issue and sounds like
your deciding factor...so I'm sorry I can't provide a definitive
answer on that one...but I'll bet someone else here has read the
license more recently and can decipher the facts better.
Hope this helps...
Dian D. Chapman, Technical Consultant
Microsoft MVP, MOS Certified
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jehrengart
Dian - Thanks for your reply.
I understand some of what you're saying, however, a prime concern is
"If I buy a full retail boxed version (not upgrade or OEM) can I not
enter the key code into the trial version to convert it? Can I not
also install it from the retail Office CD's on my desktop machine?"
My first goal here is to avoid having to uninstall the "trial version"
and then reinstall the "full version" of essentially the same software
on this new computer. I try to avoid that with all software if possible
feeling that's a good way to corrupt the OS. Second concern is
retaining the right to install on a desktop at a later date.
I realize I may not be conveying my intensions clearly.
I agree that activating a pre-installed (trial) version is not the way
to go.
Is there a certain Customer Service number at Microsoft where these
specific questions can be answered prior to any purchase?
Any other thoughts appreciated...
I understand some of what you're saying, however, a prime concern is
"If I buy a full retail boxed version (not upgrade or OEM) can I not
enter the key code into the trial version to convert it? Can I not
also install it from the retail Office CD's on my desktop machine?"
My first goal here is to avoid having to uninstall the "trial version"
and then reinstall the "full version" of essentially the same software
on this new computer. I try to avoid that with all software if possible
feeling that's a good way to corrupt the OS. Second concern is
retaining the right to install on a desktop at a later date.
I realize I may not be conveying my intensions clearly.
I agree that activating a pre-installed (trial) version is not the way
to go.
Is there a certain Customer Service number at Microsoft where these
specific questions can be answered prior to any purchase?
Any other thoughts appreciated...
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