Hyperlink problem

C

cjt

Please excuse my ignorance as i am new to Front Page, am trying to develop a
local website with hyperlinks to frequently used programs and files for our
company.

When the hyperlink is setup instead of opeing the program/file the "Download
File" window is opening.

Grateful for any help to resolve this.
 
K

Kevin Spencer

Okay, we're talking about a web site and a browser here, right? So, you put
hyperlinks in a page that point to "frequently used programs or files" -
WHERE? Where are these "frequently used programs or files?"

Also, what makes you think you can crete a hyperlink to a program and the
browser will magically run it somehow? A web application is a client-server
app, with a thin client - the browser. A browser has one main purpose:
download resources (files) from a web server. If the files are HTML, it will
display them. If the files are of some MIME type that the browser
recognizes, AND the program to display the file type is installed on the
CLIENT machine, it will open the file with the program that is designed to
open it. Otherwise, it will prompt the user to either download and save the
file. If it's an exectuable, you may have the option to download and run it,
assuming the right permissions on the web server, but most executables are
not stand-alone exes. They have external dependencies which do NOT get
downloaded to the browser, and therefore, will not work if you download the
exe and attempt to run it.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Neither a follower nor a lender be.
 
Z

Zackery

Kevin,
Your comment... "Also, what makes you think you can crete a hyperlink to a
program and the browser will magically run it somehow?" indicates you are a
very rude person. CJT said in his/her message "Please excuse my ignorance
as i am new to Front Page".

......and by the way genius, you misspelled "create".
 
C

cjt

To clarify the website is on one of our servers, the files are on the
same/other servers and are a mix of Excel/Access/Word/PDF with all the
programs loaded on everyone's client PC.
 
K

Kevin Spencer

Your comment... "Also, what makes you think you can crete a hyperlink to a
program and the browser will magically run it somehow?" indicates you are
a very rude person.

So, what do your comments make you?

I just love people who sit in judgment of others. They always seem to take
whatever you say in the most negative light possible, assume that is the
intent, judge you for it, and then practice what they condemn. In fact, I
was being helpful, answering a question with a detailed and informative
answer. You, on the other hand, are offering nothing to the community but
criticism, and practicing what you condemn. I didn't mean anything rude by
my comment. I meant to help. You, on the other hand, did.

Take the plank out of your own eye, and maybe you won't feel like picking at
motes in everyone else's any more.
.....and by the way genius, you misspelled "create".

And by the way, your honor, my finger slipped.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Neither a follower nor a lender be.
 
K

Kevin Spencer

Hi cjt,

Are these files in a virtual directory? In any case, as long as everyone can
get to them, it shouldn't matter.

Did my answer clear things up for you?

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Neither a follower nor a lender be.
 
C

cjt

Hi Kevin,

The files are not in a virtual directory, we have the same setup with
Hyperlinks in Excel at the moment, and as you described as soon as you select
the file it opens up the program on the client's PC.

Having added an identical Hyperlink to Front Page instead of opening the
file it opens the "File Download" window. i couldn't find any setting in the
hyperlink properties and wondered if there was any other setting i should
look at, we did also look at the explorer security settings but did not find
anything that made a difference.

Thanks,

Cliff
 
K

Kevin Spencer

Hi Cliff,

Let me remind you of what I mentioned earlier, and see if I can elaborate a
bit:

An Excel File is not an application. It is a document. If the Excel program
is installed on the client machine, it will open in Excel. However, as I
mentioned, most executables (programs) have external file and/or other
dependencies (such as registry) that do not get downloaded when you attempt
to download the executable. So, certainly FrontPage, which is a huge,
complex application, with many external dependencies, will not run.

It is important to understand the difference between a web site and an
operating system. FrontPage runs on your OS because you installed it there.
You didn't install a single file, but a whole plethora of files and
settings.

My best advice to you: Don't attempt to run programs via a browser. Make
documents available, but don't expect people to download and run
executables.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Neither a follower nor a lender be.
 
C

cjt

Hi Kevin,

It's me again, i am trying to do what you indicate below that will work in
that i am linking to a document e.g. Excel, but rather than opening in Excel
which is installed on the client machine it opens up the file download box.
 
K

Kevin Spencer

Is it a file with a .xls extension?

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Neither a follower nor a lender be.
 
C

cjt

Yes, it has an xls extension.

Kevin Spencer said:
Is it a file with a .xls extension?

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Neither a follower nor a lender be.
 
S

Stefan B Rusynko

An Excel (.xls) file will open in browser (IE4+) only if the user has Excel or the Excel viewer installed on their PC




| Yes, it has an xls extension.
|
| "Kevin Spencer" wrote:
|
| > Is it a file with a .xls extension?
| >
| > --
| > HTH,
| >
| > Kevin Spencer
| > Microsoft MVP
| > ..Net Developer
| > Neither a follower nor a lender be.
| >
| > | > > Hi Kevin,
| > >
| > > It's me again, i am trying to do what you indicate below that will work in
| > > that i am linking to a document e.g. Excel, but rather than opening in
| > > Excel
| > > which is installed on the client machine it opens up the file download
| > > box.
| > >
| > > "Kevin Spencer" wrote:
| > >
| > >> Hi Cliff,
| > >>
| > >> Let me remind you of what I mentioned earlier, and see if I can elaborate
| > >> a
| > >> bit:
| > >>
| > >> >> >> If it's an exectuable, you may have the option to download and run
| > >> >> >> it,
| > >> >> >> assuming the right permissions on the web server, but most
| > >> >> >> executables
| > >> >> >> are
| > >> >> >> not stand-alone exes. They have external dependencies which do NOT
| > >> >> >> get
| > >> >> >> downloaded to the browser, and therefore, will not work if you
| > >> >> >> download
| > >> >> >> the
| > >> >> >> exe and attempt to run it.
| > >>
| > >> An Excel File is not an application. It is a document. If the Excel
| > >> program
| > >> is installed on the client machine, it will open in Excel. However, as I
| > >> mentioned, most executables (programs) have external file and/or other
| > >> dependencies (such as registry) that do not get downloaded when you
| > >> attempt
| > >> to download the executable. So, certainly FrontPage, which is a huge,
| > >> complex application, with many external dependencies, will not run.
| > >>
| > >> It is important to understand the difference between a web site and an
| > >> operating system. FrontPage runs on your OS because you installed it
| > >> there.
| > >> You didn't install a single file, but a whole plethora of files and
| > >> settings.
| > >>
| > >> My best advice to you: Don't attempt to run programs via a browser. Make
| > >> documents available, but don't expect people to download and run
| > >> executables.
| > >>
| > >> --
| > >> HTH,
| > >>
| > >> Kevin Spencer
| > >> Microsoft MVP
| > >> ..Net Developer
| > >> Neither a follower nor a lender be.
| > >>
| > >>
| > >> | > >> > Hi Kevin,
| > >> >
| > >> > The files are not in a virtual directory, we have the same setup with
| > >> > Hyperlinks in Excel at the moment, and as you described as soon as you
| > >> > select
| > >> > the file it opens up the program on the client's PC.
| > >> >
| > >> > Having added an identical Hyperlink to Front Page instead of opening
| > >> > the
| > >> > file it opens the "File Download" window. i couldn't find any setting
| > >> > in
| > >> > the
| > >> > hyperlink properties and wondered if there was any other setting i
| > >> > should
| > >> > look at, we did also look at the explorer security settings but did not
| > >> > find
| > >> > anything that made a difference.
| > >> >
| > >> > Thanks,
| > >> >
| > >> > Cliff
| > >> >
| > >> > "Kevin Spencer" wrote:
| > >> >
| > >> >> Hi cjt,
| > >> >>
| > >> >> Are these files in a virtual directory? In any case, as long as
| > >> >> everyone
| > >> >> can
| > >> >> get to them, it shouldn't matter.
| > >> >>
| > >> >> Did my answer clear things up for you?
| > >> >>
| > >> >> --
| > >> >> HTH,
| > >> >>
| > >> >> Kevin Spencer
| > >> >> Microsoft MVP
| > >> >> ..Net Developer
| > >> >> Neither a follower nor a lender be.
| > >> >>
| > >> >> | > >> >> > To clarify the website is on one of our servers, the files are on
| > >> >> > the
| > >> >> > same/other servers and are a mix of Excel/Access/Word/PDF with all
| > >> >> > the
| > >> >> > programs loaded on everyone's client PC.
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> > "Kevin Spencer" wrote:
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> >> Okay, we're talking about a web site and a browser here, right? So,
| > >> >> >> you
| > >> >> >> put
| > >> >> >> hyperlinks in a page that point to "frequently used programs or
| > >> >> >> files" -
| > >> >> >> WHERE? Where are these "frequently used programs or files?"
| > >> >> >>
| > >> >> >> Also, what makes you think you can crete a hyperlink to a program
| > >> >> >> and
| > >> >> >> the
| > >> >> >> browser will magically run it somehow? A web application is a
| > >> >> >> client-server
| > >> >> >> app, with a thin client - the browser. A browser has one main
| > >> >> >> purpose:
| > >> >> >> download resources (files) from a web server. If the files are
| > >> >> >> HTML,
| > >> >> >> it
| > >> >> >> will
| > >> >> >> display them. If the files are of some MIME type that the browser
| > >> >> >> recognizes, AND the program to display the file type is installed
| > >> >> >> on
| > >> >> >> the
| > >> >> >> CLIENT machine, it will open the file with the program that is
| > >> >> >> designed
| > >> >> >> to
| > >> >> >> open it. Otherwise, it will prompt the user to either download and
| > >> >> >> save
| > >> >> >> the
| > >> >> >> file. If it's an exectuable, you may have the option to download
| > >> >> >> and
| > >> >> >> run
| > >> >> >> it,
| > >> >> >> assuming the right permissions on the web server, but most
| > >> >> >> executables
| > >> >> >> are
| > >> >> >> not stand-alone exes. They have external dependencies which do NOT
| > >> >> >> get
| > >> >> >> downloaded to the browser, and therefore, will not work if you
| > >> >> >> download
| > >> >> >> the
| > >> >> >> exe and attempt to run it.
| > >> >> >>
| > >> >> >> --
| > >> >> >> HTH,
| > >> >> >>
| > >> >> >> Kevin Spencer
| > >> >> >> Microsoft MVP
| > >> >> >> ..Net Developer
| > >> >> >> Neither a follower nor a lender be.
| > >> >> >>
| > >> >> >> | > >> >> >> > Please excuse my ignorance as i am new to Front Page, am trying
| > >> >> >> > to
| > >> >> >> > develop
| > >> >> >> > a
| > >> >> >> > local website with hyperlinks to frequently used programs and
| > >> >> >> > files
| > >> >> >> > for
| > >> >> >> > our
| > >> >> >> > company.
| > >> >> >> >
| > >> >> >> > When the hyperlink is setup instead of opeing the program/file
| > >> >> >> > the
| > >> >> >> > "Download
| > >> >> >> > File" window is opening.
| > >> >> >> >
| > >> >> >> > Grateful for any help to resolve this.
| > >> >> >>
| > >> >> >>
| > >> >> >>
| > >> >>
| > >> >>
| > >> >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| >
| >
| >
 
K

Kevin Spencer

I'm a little confused. Earlier, you siad:

....which seems to indicate to me that there are no problems with opening
Excel documents on machines that have Excel installed. But now you say:

This seems to be a contradiction. Are you saying that it opens on one
machine, but not the other?

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Neither a follower nor a lender be.
 
C

cjt

OK,

Let me try again,

At the moment we have an Excel file on a server that we call the company
"desktop" which has multiple Hyperlinks to documents, other Excel/Word/PDF
files etc., this is to avoid people in our company having to trawl through
the server looking for the right file and version. When the hyperlink is
currently selected the document opens up in the relevant program which is
installed on the client PC.

i was looking to replace the Excel "desktop" file with a Front Page version,
just a few simple pages with hyperlinks to the same files. Now, selecting
the same hyperlinks from in the browser brings up the File download window
instead of opening the file within the relevant program. If i am in Front
Page and select Ctrl + the link it works OK.

Hope this explains the problem better!!

Thanks for all your help
 
K

Kevin Spencer

Is the FrontPage web server-based or file-based? Do you access it via HTTP?

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Neither a follower nor a lender be.
 
C

cjt

I believe it to be file based, i have copied the address bar below from the
home page of the FP version:

F:\Petra Policies & Procedures\Petra Desktop\PetraDesktop\index.htm
 
K

Kevin Spencer

And you're sure that Excel, the same or a newer version than the document,
is installed on the client machine?

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Neither a follower nor a lender be.
 
C

cjt

Absolutely, including my own.

Kevin Spencer said:
And you're sure that Excel, the same or a newer version than the document,
is installed on the client machine?

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Neither a follower nor a lender be.
 
K

Kevin Spencer

Are you browsing with Internet Explorer?

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Neither a follower nor a lender be.
 
C

cjt

Yes, we all have version 6

Kevin Spencer said:
Are you browsing with Internet Explorer?

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Neither a follower nor a lender be.
 

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