If Architects had to work like Programmers

[Kevin Spencer]

Dear Mr. Architect!
Please design and build me a house. I am not quite sure of what I need, so
you should use your discretion. My house should have between two and
forty-five bedrooms. Just make sure the plans are such that the bedrooms can
be easily added or deleted. When you bring the blueprints to me, I will make
the final decision of what I want. Also, bring me the cost breakdown for
each configuration so that I can arbitrarily pick one.

Keep in mind that the house I ultimately choose must cost less than the one
I am currently living in. Make sure, however, that you correct all the
deficiencies that exist in my current house (the floor of my kitchen
vibrates when I walk across it, and the walls don't have nearly enough
insulation in them).

As you design, also keep in mind that I want to keep yearly maintenance
costs as low as possible. This should mean the incorporation of extra-cost
features like aluminum, vinyl, or composite siding. (If you choose not to
specify aluminum, be prepared to explain your decision in detail.)

Please take care that modern design practices and the latest materials are
used in construction of the house, as I want it to be a showplace for the
most up-to-date ideas and methods. Be alerted, however, that kitchen should
be designed to accommodate, among other things, my 1952 Gibson refrigerator.

To insure that you are building the correct house for our entire family,
make certain that you contact each of our children, and also our in-laws. My
mother-in-law will have very strong feelings about how the house should be
designed, since she visits us at least once a year. Make sure that you weigh
all of these options carefully and come to the right decision. I, however,
retain the right to overrule any choices that you make.

Please don't bother me with small details right now. Your job is to develop
the overall plans for the house: get the big picture. At this time, for
example, it is not appropriate to be choosing the color of the carpet.
However, keep in mind that my wife likes blue.

Also, do not worry at this time about acquiring the resources to build the
house itself. Your first priority is to develop detailed plans and
specifications. Once I approve these plans, however, I would expect the
house to be under roof within 48 hours.

While you are designing this house specifically for me, keep in mind that
sooner or later I will have to sell it to someone else. It therefore should
have appeal to a wide variety of potential buyers. Please make sure before
you finalize the plans that there is a consensus of the population in my
area that they like the features this house has.

Please prepare a complete set of blueprints. It is not necessary at this
time to do the real design, since they will be used only for construction
bids. Be advised, however, that you will be held accountable for any
increase of construction costs as a result of later design changes.

You must be thrilled to be working on an interesting project as this! To be
able to use the latest techniques and materials and to be given such freedom
in your designs is something that can't happen very often. Contact me as
soon as possible with your complete ideas and plans.

P.S.:
My wife has just told me that she disagrees with many of the instructions
I've given you in this letter. As architect, it is your responsibility to
resolve these differences. I have tried in the past and have been unable to
accomplish this. If you can't handle this responsibility, I will have to
find another architect.

P.P.S.:
Perhaps what I need is not a house at all, but a travel trailer. Please
advise me as soon as possible if this is the case.

 

[MD Websunlimited]

I think I can help you out Kevin ;>)

 

[chris leeds]

ROFL!
That was the best thing to happen today!

Maybe I really am "sad" as says but I think it's pretty damn funny!

 

[Tom Pepper Willett]

Unfortunately, it will go over the heads of the people it was written for
;-)
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| That was the best thing to happen today!
|
| Maybe I really am "sad" as says but I think it's pretty damn funny!
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|
| | > Dear Mr. Architect!
| > Please design and build me a house. I am not quite sure of what I need,
so
| > you should use your discretion. My house should have between two and
| > forty-five bedrooms. Just make sure the plans are such that the bedrooms
| can
| > be easily added or deleted. When you bring the blueprints to me, I will
| make
| > the final decision of what I want. Also, bring me the cost breakdown for
| > each configuration so that I can arbitrarily pick one.
| >
| > Keep in mind that the house I ultimately choose must cost less than the
| one
| > I am currently living in. Make sure, however, that you correct all the
| > deficiencies that exist in my current house (the floor of my kitchen
| > vibrates when I walk across it, and the walls don't have nearly enough
| > insulation in them).
| >
| > As you design, also keep in mind that I want to keep yearly maintenance
| > costs as low as possible. This should mean the incorporation of
extra-cost
| > features like aluminum, vinyl, or composite siding. (If you choose not
to
| > specify aluminum, be prepared to explain your decision in detail.)
| >
| > Please take care that modern design practices and the latest materials
are
| > used in construction of the house, as I want it to be a showplace for
the
| > most up-to-date ideas and methods. Be alerted, however, that kitchen
| should
| > be designed to accommodate, among other things, my 1952 Gibson
| refrigerator.
| >
| > To insure that you are building the correct house for our entire family,
| > make certain that you contact each of our children, and also our
in-laws.
| My
| > mother-in-law will have very strong feelings about how the house should
be
| > designed, since she visits us at least once a year. Make sure that you
| weigh
| > all of these options carefully and come to the right decision. I,
however,
| > retain the right to overrule any choices that you make.
| >
| > Please don't bother me with small details right now. Your job is to
| develop
| > the overall plans for the house: get the big picture. At this time, for
| > example, it is not appropriate to be choosing the color of the carpet.
| > However, keep in mind that my wife likes blue.
| >
| > Also, do not worry at this time about acquiring the resources to build
the
| > house itself. Your first priority is to develop detailed plans and
| > specifications. Once I approve these plans, however, I would expect the
| > house to be under roof within 48 hours.
| >
| > While you are designing this house specifically for me, keep in mind
that
| > sooner or later I will have to sell it to someone else. It therefore
| should
| > have appeal to a wide variety of potential buyers. Please make sure
before
| > you finalize the plans that there is a consensus of the population in my
| > area that they like the features this house has.
| >
| > Please prepare a complete set of blueprints. It is not necessary at this
| > time to do the real design, since they will be used only for
construction
| > bids. Be advised, however, that you will be held accountable for any
| > increase of construction costs as a result of later design changes.
| >
| > You must be thrilled to be working on an interesting project as this! To
| be
| > able to use the latest techniques and materials and to be given such
| freedom
| > in your designs is something that can't happen very often. Contact me as
| > soon as possible with your complete ideas and plans.
| >
| > P.S.:
| > My wife has just told me that she disagrees with many of the
instructions
| > I've given you in this letter. As architect, it is your responsibility
to
| > resolve these differences. I have tried in the past and have been unable
| to
| > accomplish this. If you can't handle this responsibility, I will have to
| > find another architect.
| >
| > P.P.S.:
| > Perhaps what I need is not a house at all, but a travel trailer. Please
| > advise me as soon as possible if this is the case.
| >
| >
|
|

 

[chris leeds]

it will. still it's so good. I wish I had time to lay it up nice in
InDesign or Publisher. ;-)

 

[clintonG]

Kevin I have some bad news. I am a degreed architect and have
been working with 'programming' for a very very long time and
I hate to break it to you but architects 'do' have to work like
programmers with one exception:

The United States has become a facist nation of filthy corrupt pigs.
An architect must become 'registered' by the state which controls
who can and who can not work. Working without permission from
the state can and does incur criminal prosecution. Achieving the
registration requires working for an employer who may or may
not choose to assign work to a person that is required for credit
by the state who issues the registration once a certain number of
credit hours are accumulated. Do you see the corruption here?
The law sets the requirements but there is no way to meet them
without indentured servitude and years of boot licking.

All of the rationale for this is fraudulent as the fascist pigs claim
registration ensures that the public's safety, health, and welfare
is 'assured'. BULLSH!T Who has ever heard of an architect or
engineer who was sent to prison? It doesn't happen. There are
problems in the construction industry and some very corrupt inviduals
and firms for sure but everything gets settled in the 'civil' courts
anyway.

There never has been and there never will be a registration that can
'assure' a service provider is ethical or does not and will not make
mistakes. Thus, the entire aspect of 'registration' is by definition fascism.

On the other hand, software development is still totally merit based
and has no little neo-nazis -- yet -- that can use politics and corrupt
manipulation of the markets to prosecute people as criminals for
simply working. They are trying though.

So trust me. Until you have to appear before a big fat c*nt who has
become a mayor and who has a bunch of equally assinine aldermen
who will grille you for weeks back and forth requiring new drawings
over and over and over simply to explain to their satisfaction which
side of the yard the f*cking bushes are going to be on you have no
appreciation of how sweet it can really be to continue to work in
one of the last merit based activities that thank God that still remains
untouched by the filthy neo-nazi pigs that are deconstructing our
nation and turning it into a neo-nazi communist gulag.

--
<%= Clinton Gallagher
A/E/C Consulting, Web Design, e-Commerce Software Development
Wauwatosa, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin USA
NET csgallagher@ REMOVETHISTEXT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/

 

[Craig Schiller]

So, Clinton... go to a non-Fascist country, already. I'm sure you'll enjoy it a
LOT better. Let us know which one you choose.

LOL!

 

[Tom Pepper Willett]

Clinton has a "reputation" in many newsgroups (not just Microsoft). Need I
say more?

Tom
| So, Clinton... go to a non-Fascist country, already. I'm sure you'll enjoy
it a
| LOT better. Let us know which one you choose.
|
| LOL!
|
| clintonG wrote:
|
| > Kevin I have some bad news. I am a degreed architect and have
| > been working with 'programming' for a very very long time and
| > I hate to break it to you but architects 'do' have to work like
| > programmers with one exception:
| >
| > The United States has become a facist nation of filthy corrupt pigs.
| > An architect must become 'registered' by the state which controls
| > who can and who can not work. Working without permission from
| > the state can and does incur criminal prosecution. Achieving the
| > registration requires working for an employer who may or may
| > not choose to assign work to a person that is required for credit
| > by the state who issues the registration once a certain number of
| > credit hours are accumulated. Do you see the corruption here?
| > The law sets the requirements but there is no way to meet them
| > without indentured servitude and years of boot licking.
| >
| > All of the rationale for this is fraudulent as the fascist pigs claim
| > registration ensures that the public's safety, health, and welfare
| > is 'assured'. BULLSH!T Who has ever heard of an architect or
| > engineer who was sent to prison? It doesn't happen. There are
| > problems in the construction industry and some very corrupt inviduals
| > and firms for sure but everything gets settled in the 'civil' courts
| > anyway.
| >
| > There never has been and there never will be a registration that can
| > 'assure' a service provider is ethical or does not and will not make
| > mistakes. Thus, the entire aspect of 'registration' is by definition
fascism.
| >
| > On the other hand, software development is still totally merit based
| > and has no little neo-nazis -- yet -- that can use politics and corrupt
| > manipulation of the markets to prosecute people as criminals for
| > simply working. They are trying though.
| >
| > So trust me. Until you have to appear before a big fat c*nt who has
| > become a mayor and who has a bunch of equally assinine aldermen
| > who will grille you for weeks back and forth requiring new drawings
| > over and over and over simply to explain to their satisfaction which
| > side of the yard the f*cking bushes are going to be on you have no
| > appreciation of how sweet it can really be to continue to work in
| > one of the last merit based activities that thank God that still remains
| > untouched by the filthy neo-nazi pigs that are deconstructing our
| > nation and turning it into a neo-nazi communist gulag.
| >
| > --
| > <%= Clinton Gallagher
| > A/E/C Consulting, Web Design, e-Commerce Software Development
| > Wauwatosa, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin USA
| > NET csgallagher@ REMOVETHISTEXT metromilwaukee.com
| > URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/
| >
| > | > > Dear Mr. Architect!
| > > Please design and build me a house. I am not quite sure of what I
need, so
| > > you should use your discretion. My house should have between two and
| > > forty-five bedrooms. Just make sure the plans are such that the
bedrooms can
| > > be easily added or deleted. When you bring the blueprints to me, I
will make
| > > the final decision of what I want. Also, bring me the cost breakdown
for
| > > each configuration so that I can arbitrarily pick one.
| > >
| > > Keep in mind that the house I ultimately choose must cost less than
the one
| > > I am currently living in. Make sure, however, that you correct all the
| > > deficiencies that exist in my current house (the floor of my kitchen
| > > vibrates when I walk across it, and the walls don't have nearly enough
| > > insulation in them).
| > >
| > > As you design, also keep in mind that I want to keep yearly
maintenance
| > > costs as low as possible. This should mean the incorporation of
extra-cost
| > > features like aluminum, vinyl, or composite siding. (If you choose not
to
| > > specify aluminum, be prepared to explain your decision in detail.)
| > >
| > > Please take care that modern design practices and the latest materials
are
| > > used in construction of the house, as I want it to be a showplace for
the
| > > most up-to-date ideas and methods. Be alerted, however, that kitchen
should
| > > be designed to accommodate, among other things, my 1952 Gibson
refrigerator.
| > >
| > > To insure that you are building the correct house for our entire
family,
| > > make certain that you contact each of our children, and also our
in-laws. My
| > > mother-in-law will have very strong feelings about how the house
should be
| > > designed, since she visits us at least once a year. Make sure that you
weigh
| > > all of these options carefully and come to the right decision. I,
however,
| > > retain the right to overrule any choices that you make.
| > >
| > > Please don't bother me with small details right now. Your job is to
develop
| > > the overall plans for the house: get the big picture. At this time,
for
| > > example, it is not appropriate to be choosing the color of the carpet.
| > > However, keep in mind that my wife likes blue.
| > >
| > > Also, do not worry at this time about acquiring the resources to build
the
| > > house itself. Your first priority is to develop detailed plans and
| > > specifications. Once I approve these plans, however, I would expect
the
| > > house to be under roof within 48 hours.
| > >
| > > While you are designing this house specifically for me, keep in mind
that
| > > sooner or later I will have to sell it to someone else. It therefore
should
| > > have appeal to a wide variety of potential buyers. Please make sure be
fore
| > > you finalize the plans that there is a consensus of the population in
my
| > > area that they like the features this house has.
| > >
| > > Please prepare a complete set of blueprints. It is not necessary at
this
| > > time to do the real design, since they will be used only for
construction
| > > bids. Be advised, however, that you will be held accountable for any
| > > increase of construction costs as a result of later design changes.
| > >
| > > You must be thrilled to be working on an interesting project as this!
To be
| > > able to use the latest techniques and materials and to be given such
freedom
| > > in your designs is something that can't happen very often. Contact me
as
| > > soon as possible with your complete ideas and plans.
| > >
| > > P.S.:
| > > My wife has just told me that she disagrees with many of the
instructions
| > > I've given you in this letter. As architect, it is your responsibility
to
| > > resolve these differences. I have tried in the past and have been
unable to
| > > accomplish this. If you can't handle this responsibility, I will have
to
| > > find another architect.
| > >
| > > P.P.S.:
| > > Perhaps what I need is not a house at all, but a travel trailer.
Please
| > > advise me as soon as possible if this is the case.
| > >
| > >
|

 

[Jon Spivey]

You couldn't hack it as an architect so you decided to become a
"programmer." I bet the "filthy corrupt pigs" are to blame for you not being
able to make a living in this industry too.

One might think a pattern is developing here

 

[clintonG]

If you knew anything about the real world in the context of architecture
and the construction industry you would be more likely to know exactly
what I am talking about rather than talk like a damn fool with his head
stuck up his @ss.

I've been wondering too, "If you -- or any other sycophants for this
matter -- should live into your 60s or your 70s given the economic
circumstances for market conditions to warrant demand for services
I assume you are temporarily providing, do you think you will be able
to support yourself as a push button FrontPage monkey or do you think
having a license from the state is going to allow you to continue working
because others would be prevented by law from even competing?"

As for me, I'm only two exams away from acquiring my architectural
registration from the state regardless of what the corrupt bastards
throw on the table and I'm in the process of earning an MCAD
cert as well so I'm not worrying about how to make money.

I'll have my own software products on the market and as a registered
architect I'll be able to continue working as an architect as long as
my health allows but I have yet to hear about a dried up old MVP
who is raking it in using FrontPage.

Think about that 'pattern' chump...


--
<%= Clinton Gallagher
A/E/C Consulting, Web Design, e-Commerce Software Development
Wauwatosa, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin USA
NET csgallagher@ REMOVETHISTEXT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/

 

[Kevin Spencer]

I have some bad news too, Clinton. You missed the point of my post, which
was a light-hearted look at the ups and downs of professional development.
It had nothing to do with politics OR architecture. And as much as some of
it can be a pain, due to the fact that we are all human, I still love it.

Things are the way they are. Life is like a game. Complaining about the
rules doesn't make you a better player. It only makes you a bitter player.

--
HTH,
Kevin Spencer
..Net Developer
Microsoft MVP
Big things are made up
of lots of little things.

 

[clintonG]

To err is human but only a fool goes into the so-called 'game' ignoring
the way that game is supposed to be played and only an ignorant fool
would choose to continue to ignore the facts that there are those already
in the game who will lie, cheat, and steal everything they can get their
filthy hands on trying to prevent somebody else from having something
for themselves.

So you copied something that has been copied and edited ad infinitum,
recopied, and reposted until it has lost all of its practical meaning and
now you want to try to laugh your way out of it by attempting to shoot
a messenger with your foolish psycho babble because that messenger
had something serious to convey. Okay.


"A wise man speaks when he has something to say but a fool speaks
when he has to say something."
-- Anonymous


<%= Clinton Gallagher
A/E/C Consulting, Web Design, e-Commerce Software Development
Wauwatosa, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin USA
NET csgallagher@ REMOVETHISTEXT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/

 

[Kevin Spencer]

It is better to light one candle than to curse the darkness.

--
HTH,
Kevin Spencer
..Net Developer
Microsoft MVP
Big things are made up
of lots of little things.