Is it resolution or the browser?

[Thomboy]

I keep getting individuals who send email messages about my new website,
saying that many parts of my website pages cannot be seen.

My laptop is running IE7, WinXP, with a screen resolution of 1440 X 900
pixels. Using my laptop I can see the same problems others see, which are:

On the BOARD MEMBER page, most of the information inside the text boxes for
each board member is missing the last line of text.

Two of the NAV BARS, "Neighborhood Watch" and "Community Links" wrap and the
second word is partially hidden.

Website: http://www.lcn-hoa.com

I am running IE8, Pub 2007, and my resolution is 1680 X 1050 pixels, and all
my pages look great.

Any advice?

Thanks, Thomboy

 

[Spike]

Thomboy

Probably the size of font that you are using:

Your code:
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin-right:0pt;
text-indent:0pt;
margin-top:0pt;
margin-bottom:9.0pt;
line-height:121%;
text-align:left;
font-family:Georgia;
font-size:9.1865pt;
color:black;}

Try even numbers on the font size Like 10 12 14 etc Here I see that
you are using 9.1865 Try 10 and see if that helps. IE can automatically
change the font size to an even number.

Spike

 

[DavidF]

On http://www.lcn-hoa.com/index_files/Page926.htm some of the text is not
totally visible to me using IE7, but is visible via FF.

This might be a simple matter of making your text boxes just a bit longer so
that when the text is converted to html it is all visible.

It might also be that you are using special print format paragraph or line
spacing, which is not converting to html correctly. Select the text > format

style > clear formatting,

and or Format > paragraph and make the line spacing just one space between
lines,

and or Format > text box > text box tab and adjust the top and bottom
margins.

You just have to play with these variable adjustments and test as you go to
get the layout as you want it.

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Wrapping navbars: Your navbar 'buttons' are made up of at least three design
elements that are all grouped together. There is an image box, and 'hotspot'
hyperlink box and a text box. The text will wrap when the total number of
characters exceeds the length of the text box. You could ungroup the navbar
buttons and lengthen the text box, but that will also disengage the navbar
from the navbar wizard and if you decide to add a page in the future, the
wizard will be unable to automagically add a new navbar button to the navbar
and propagate it through out the site. I would suggest instead that you
either change "Community links" to "Links" and "Neighborhood Watch" to
"Neighbors Watch", or perhaps a better solution is to select the text and
reduce the font size to a smaller font size.

DavidF

 

[DavidF]

I forgot about that one...

DavidF

Thomboy

Probably the size of font that you are using:

Your code:
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin-right:0pt;
text-indent:0pt;
margin-top:0pt;
margin-bottom:9.0pt;
line-height:121%;
text-align:left;
font-family:Georgia;
font-size:9.1865pt;
color:black;}

Try even numbers on the font size Like 10 12 14 etc Here I see that
you are using 9.1865 Try 10 and see if that helps. IE can automatically
change the font size to an even number.

Spike

 

[DavidF]

Thomboy,

Sometimes I forget or miss the obvious.

If you look on your home page the navbar text does not wrap, but it does on
the 'Board Member' Page. You need not do any of the 'fixes' I originally
suggested. Just select the navbar and drag it wider until the text does not
wrap. Yes you may need to move or tweak the other content on the page to
make room for a wider navbar, but the fact that you made the navbar more
narrow on the 'Board member' page is the reason the text is wrapping.

And that is yet another fix for text boxes where some of the text is not
visible in IE7. If the formatting or height of a text box is important to
the layout of the pages, you can make the text box wider so that text wraps
into fewer lines.

This is not to discount the point Spike made about using a fixed font size,
or the other formatting tips I suggested. They are all arrows in your quiver
of possible tweaks to the formatting of a Publisher web page that you can
use to adjust the layout of your pages.

DavidF

 

[Thomboy]

Spike:

I kept trying to do that, but it may be the text box size that forced IE to
keep shrinking the font size? I will try again, but I did try to use a font
size of 10. I may have to go to a font size 8 to keep all the text, or
rewrite the text to eliminate some of the wording. As you know, when you use
a font size 8 people start having a hard time reading the information, and
just move on.

Those on the board are all volunteers, so I try to keep as much of the
material they give to me in each text box.

Thanks for the suggestion, Thomboy

 

[Thomboy]

David:

Missing the obvious is NOT a bad thing, it just reinforces that when you are
trying to solve so many problems, some of the obvious just slips by.

When I was helping my students build electronic digital portfolios, I
thought I knew all the fixes and what to do, but one of my "polite and
diplomatic" students asked me a rhetorical question that made me see one of
the obvious mistakes I had been making for a long time. He was trying to
teach me something, and he did it without making me look like an old fool. I
made a point of complimenting him about his wisdom and technical expertise in
front of about 100 students who were taking my class. That moment made me
never forget that we are never too old or too savvy to learn or be reminded
of something we overlooked.

The beauty of of being so active, like you are, with so many different
problem situations is that another person in need of help, jogs your memory,
and the obvious comes back loud and clear.

Good for you!!

I will try your suggestions, and see which one does the job. I will then
upload the .pub file to GoDaddy, and I am sure it will be fixed.

Best always, Thomboy

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[Thomboy]

David and Spike:

I guess one is never too old to learn!

My biggest learning, Spike, and one I will NOT forget was creating the
sub-folder in my main HOA WEBSITE folder. It solved the .pdf problem without
any other changes, and it was an easy fix.

David, widening the NAV Bar on several of the pages, and tweaking the size
of the text boxes solved all the missing sentences in five of the pages.

I even went back and found many more missing, or poorly developed lines of
text.

It was the ease of becoming familiar with FileZilla, and checking for other
mistakes and "overlooked" items that made the website look great!!!

At least, from now on, I won't get those pesky calls from viewers about not
being able to see the .pdf files, and from the board members about some of
their lines of text in their information boxes being missing.

I probably won't be back soon, so here's a big thanks to you both.

Thomboy
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[Spike]

Thomboy

Good luck
Drop by anytime (you have been one of the better ones to work with (with
replies that the suggestions either worked or didn't)

Spike

 

[DavidF]

Thanks Thomboy. I appreciate the feedback.

DavidF

 

[DavidF]

Glad it worked out for you. As Spike said, it is the two way communication
that makes it possible and worthwhile. When you don't have the publication
loaded in front of you, sometimes all we can do is make a best guess as to
what is causing the problem.

See ya next time.

DavidF