C-Drive stem folders with duplicate website info???

[Thomboy]

When looking at my C drive, and expanding it to show the folders, etc., two
folders are perplexing, because they have the same set of files.

1. The first folder is titled, "ftp.lcn-hoa.com" with the following set of
files:

_db_backups
aspnet_client
HOA - Website Files
Stats

2. The next folder is titled, "www.lcn-hoa.com" and has the following files:

_db_backups
aspnet_client
HOA - Website Files
stats

The same data exactly, but why?

Is the ftp folder created after dropping and dragging the "index_files," and
"index.htm" files into the "www.lcn-hoa" folder, after you have while in the
publisher .pub file, clicked on "save as a web page?"

I know that after you drop and drag the "index_files" and the "index.htm"
files into the "www.lcn-hoa.com" folder space on the right of the C-Drive
stem, you should click on "refresh" to cause the newest files to over write
the older files.

I made a foolish decision and deleted the "HOA - Website Files" and the
"stats" file in the "ftp.lcn-hoa.com" folder, and then almost immediately the
website disappeared. Now all I get is a message saying that the site is not
accessible and to contact the administrator.

When I click on "Save as a web page," I place the index_files and the
index.htm file in a folder called, "HOA - Website Files."

My website address is: fttp://www.lcn-hoa.com

I am using Office Su9ite 2007.

Thomboy

 

[DavidF]

You may be mixing things up. It sounds like you are looking at your webhost
files, not your C drive. Have you been downloading all your webhost files to
your local computer?

Anyway to remind you of the proper workflow. Open your original Publisher
file for your website. 'Publish to the web" and Publisher will produce an
index.htm file (your home page) and an index_files folder which contains all
the other pages of your site plus all the supporting graphics. You upload
the index.htm file and the index_files folder to your webhost. Then if you
want to change your site, you repeat the process...open the original
Publisher file and generate new web files and upload those. You do not open
and edit the .htm files in Publisher. You do not download the web files from
the webhost server and try to edit those. Publisher is not a code editor.

You mention in your other post that you are going to use both Pub 2003 and
2007. Your Publisher file will open in both versions. The main difference is
that in Pub 2003 you should go to Tools > Options > Web tab and uncheck
"rely on VML...". This will help in producing code that is more cross
browser compatible. As of Pub 2007, MSFT had removed this option.

You also mentioned in that on one of your computers you installed IE8, but
you have IE7 on the other. You might consider uninstalling IE8 for the a
while and just staying with IE7. That way while you are working on your Pub
file, if you want to do a webpage preview, you will be able to see your
navbars. You should still plan on 'ungrouping' the pages before you upload
your web files so that the navbars will render for those people that view
your site with IE8. Read one of my long replies about the compatibility
issues with IE8 for more details about that.

DavidF

 

[Thomboy]

Many thanks, David, but I am NOT the only one who tells you that, after
reading the many, many replies to posts at this Publisher site.

I think webhost refers to GoDaddy.com.

Q1. What I am confused about is what process creates a folder on the C
Drive stem/trunk called, "ftp.lan-hoa.com"? When I deleted the index_files
and the index.htm files from this location, my website went down. It must be
created after the upload of the two files/folders to my webhost or this
folder is created by Publisher?

FYI. When I "Save a a web page" when finished with my changes to the .pub
file, the wizard asks me where I want to place the "index_files," and the
"index.htm" and I place it into a folder called "HOA Website Files".

Somewhere along the line, I thought another step was required, between
placing lndex_files and the index.htm in the C drive folder (HOA Website
Files), and uploading them to my webhost (GoDaddy.com), using FileZilla?

Q2. I have another folder on my C drive stem called www.lcn-hoa.com, which
may be the folder created by Publisher, or maybe I created it and don't
remember doing it?? This is where I drag "index_files and index.htm" from
the folder I created called, HOA Website Files, into www.lcn-hoa.com, and
then I right click the open space on the right side of the C drive stem
(shows the files inside of any folder you click), so I can select refresh,
making the NEW index_files and the index.htm overwrite the older two files.

When I open FileZilla, I find the folder on my C drive stem
"www.lcn-hoa.com" and drag these two files (index_files, and index.htm) to
the right side that loads them to my website.

The web address is: www.lcn-hoa.com

Once I get the webhost site up, I will ask you a couple more questions.

Your answer about uninstalling IE8 makes good sense, and I will do that to
get the process of loading the .pub file from my desktop to my laptop. The
nav bars are important to preview the website from my laptop.

Also, your comment about ((go to Tools > Options > Web tab and uncheck

"rely on VML...". This will help in producing code that is more cross
browser compatible)) will also be critical for making both .pub files compatible.

Sorry for all the verbiage, but what the heck, the more you know about what
I am doing the easier it will be for see the problem so I can fix the
problems. Yes??

Thanks, Thomboy

 

[DavidF]

Thomboy,

First of all, you can probably never write too many words describing your
problems or issues. Quite the opposite is usually true, leaving us to guess
what the poster is asking. In fact with this follow up post I think I now
may know what is going on, and I have good news and bad news...but not that
bad.

I think the 'folders' you are seeing on your C drive were the webhost
folders and files. I don't know if I can explain this really well, but with
your XP machine you probably at some point in time created a 'network place'
which was both the 'ftp folder' and the 'www folder'. When you looked inside
those folders you saw the files and folders on your host server or drive.
That is why you saw the non-Publisher folders '_db_backups', 'aspnet_client'
and 'stats'. These are webhost folders that contain files and such that
control and monitor your website. Your Publisher web files (index.htm and
the index_files folder) should be at the same level as these GoDaddy
folders. This is your root directory. Your FTP site is ftp.lan-hoa.com .When
you deleted all those folders you not only deleted your Pub web files but
also all of the host files and folders. What you should have done was to
delete *only* the index.htm file and the index_files folder.

So the first question I have is can you still logon to your FTP site:
ftp.lan-hoa.com with FileZilla? Are those '_db_backups', 'aspnet_client'
and 'stats' folders gone? If not then you can simply upload new Publisher
web files. If you can't log on with FileZilla or the GoDaddy folders are
gone then the first thing you will need to do is contact GoDaddy support,
and tell them that you think you accidentally deleted all their files and
folders in your FTP site and you need them to set up your site again. You
don't need to explain how you goofed up, just tell them you did and provide
them with your domain name, the user ID or name and your password. They will
reinstall all these default folders and files and you can start fresh.

I am done with the bad news.

Once they notify you that they have fixed things, you will be ready to
upload fresh files. The good news is that you already know how to use
FileZilla. The reason this is good news is that the FTP uploading process
changed from Windows XP to Windows Vista, but by using FileZilla the FTP
uploading process will be the same on both machines. Try connecting to your
site using FileZilla. If you can't you may have to go through the setup
process you did when you first setup things up with FileZilla. But once they
have fixed your site you should be able to logon to your site and see the
three folders in your root directory/folder again.

Now I should clarify something. You created a folder on your computer called
"HOA Website Files". This is where you directed your Publisher web files
(the index.htm file and index_files folder). Put that folder either on your
Desktop or somewhere you can easily find it. When you upload again, upload
*just* the Publisher webfiles, *not* the whole 'HOA Website Files' folder.
The index.htm file and index_files folder should be uploaded to the same
directory and at the same level as the '_db_backups', 'aspnet_client' and
the 'stats' folders.

I think you may have been making another mistake with Publisher 2003. After
you opened your Publisher file and were ready to publish your web files, you
said that you did a ""Save a web page". If you do this Publisher 2003
creates what is called 'unfiltered' or 'rich' files, that are bloated with
Office tags and such. Instead when you are ready to publish go to File >
'Publish to the Web' and direct your files to the 'HOA Website Files' folder
on your computer. This will produce filtered files in both Pub 2003 and
2007. Then using FileZilla upload the index.htm file and the index_files
folder to your FTP site: ftp.lan-hoa.com and you should be good to go.

Post back if you continue to have problems.

DavidF

 

[Thomboy]

David, Viola, we are now on the same page, and your verbiage has solved all
my problems, except for doing some very stupid things. Now, however, I can
see that the ftp.lch-hoa.com folder contains GoDaddy files to make the
crossover work and to enable my "index_files" and the "index.htm" folder to
load at the webhost site, GoDaddy, using FileZilla.

So far all my work has been done using Office 2007 and VISTAr, but I expect
to use Office 2003 and Windows XP when I take my laptop back to Washington
State to keep the website updated.

Answer to your first question, no I cannot log on to my website. When I or
anyone else tries, the following message appears:
------------------------------
The page you tried to access does not exist on this server. This page may
not exist due to the following reasons:

1. You are the owner of this web site and you have not uploaded (or
incorrectly uploaded) your web site. For information on uploading your web
site using FTP client software or web design software, click here for FTP
Upload Information.

2. The URL that you have entered in your browser is incorrect. Please
re-enter the URL and try again.

3. The Link that you clicked on incorrectly points to this page. Please
contact the owner of this web site to inform them of this situation.
------------------------------
I HAVE ALWAYS USED Vista, AND OFFICE 2007, and this is where I may have
"created a 'network place' which was (as you said) both the 'ftp folder' and
the 'www folder.' "

This is going to sound crazy, but I only deleted the "index_files," the
"index.htm" file, and the "stats" file from the ftp.lcn-hoa.com root
directory, and left the others in place, the webhost site went away. The
"stats" file must be an essential GoDaddy entry, which is needed to keep the
website working. What I am saying is that all three are GoDaddy files are
essential: _db_backups, aspnet_client, and stats, which is the only GoDaddy
file I deleted with HOA Website Files (inside of which must have been
index_files and index.htm). Am I making any sense to you?

Now, back to another of your questions: can you still logon to your FTP site:
ftp.lan-hoa.com with FileZilla? Are those '_db_backups', 'aspnet_client'
and 'stats' folders gone?

MY RESPONSE: I cannot log onto the FTP site, and when I reach the FileZilla
screen, I cannot see any of the GoDaddy created files mentioned in your
question. So, contacting GoDaddy may be the right fix and to ask them to
replace those three files so when I drag the "index_files" and "index.htm"
onto the right side of the FileZilla screen, they will load properly, and the
website will be up and running again.

Your suggestion follows: You don't need to explain how you goofed up, just
tell them you did and provide them with your domain name, the user ID or name
and your password. They will reinstall all these default folders and files
and you can start fresh.

MY RESPONSE: I plan to do this immediately after I log off from the
Publisher Office Online website.

Your last suggestion follows: Now I should clarify something. You created a
folder on your computer called "HOA Website Files". This is where you
directed your Publisher web files (the index.htm file and index_files
folder). Put that folder either on your Desktop or somewhere you can easily
find it. When you upload again, upload *just* the Publisher webfiles, *not*
the whole 'HOA Website Files' folder. The index.htm file and index_files
folder should be uploaded to the same directory and at the same level as the
'_db_backups', 'aspnet_client' and the 'stats' folders.

MY RESPONSE: The only thing in the HOA Website files folder are the two
files "index_files" and "index.htm" so highlighting and dragging them into
the ftp.lch-hoa.com folder should be OK, but even though I have examined the
contents of this folder (HOA Website Files) I cannot be 100% sure that there
aren't hidden files.

YOur next suggestion follows: I think you may have been making another
mistake with Publisher 2003. After you opened your Publisher file and were
ready to publish your web files, you said that you did a ""Save a web page".
If you do this Publisher 2003 creates what is called 'unfiltered' or 'rich'
files, that are bloated with Office tags and such. Instead when you are ready
to publish go to File 'Publish to the Web' and direct your files to the 'HOA
Website Files' folder on your computer. This will produce filtered files in
both Pub 2003 and 2007. Then using FileZilla upload the index.htm file and
the index_files folder to your FTP site: ftp.lan-hoa.com and you should be
good to go.

MY RESPONSE: Early in my reply to your questions and solutions, I mentioned
that I have only used Office 2007 and VISTA, but have not yet used WinXP nor
Office 2003. I am sure that what you say above will be essential to making
me able to use Office 2003 and XP to make modications to my website easily.

Way too much verbiage, and I know that I repeated my self twice, but at
least now we are using the same language, and for that I am eternally
grateful.

OK, my friend, I think the chemo (your advice and help) worked, and I am
disease free or should I say almost with a few changes

After I make all the changes, and contact GoDaddy, i will give you an update
so I can put these errors behind me. Didn't Ringo Starr once have a song,
titled, "with a little help from my friends?"

If so, you have earned that rank, a friend indeed.

Thomboy

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[Rob Giordano [MS MVP]]

Are you sure that's the correct URL??? I show it as an available web
address, not registered to anyone.



--
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Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression

 

[DavidF]

OK. It sounds like I mixed up which computer you were using, but the
suggestions about how to Publish to the Web and changing the options in Pub
2003 still apply. Also, the FTP uploading process should be the same on both
computers using FileZilla. There are some other differences between 2003 and
2007 so plan on trying to open your Pub file on the Pub 2003 machine,
publishing the files, and testing against the files you produce with 2007. I
don't think there will be substantial differences, but you should do this
while you still have access to both computers. Also be sure to backup your
Pub file before you open it in Pub 2003. Rename it if you have to, but make
note somehow that it is your original. Pub 2003 and 2007 files are supposed
to be interchangeable, but I have read of cases where they weren't so you
might as well take a few precautions. I originally feared you were opening
your html files in Publisher and had not saved the original Pub file, and
that would have created a big job for you rebuilding the site. After get
everything up and running and before you leave for Washington, you might
even consider uploading a backup copy of your Pub file to your web host for
safe keeping and access if you need it. Just sayn'...

I don't know what files are in the Godaddy 'stats' folder, but Godaddy does
need to rebuild/repair your ftp site. Hopefully it will be clear from your
request and you will be up and running soon.

You are welcome...good luck and yes, let us know how it works out.

DavidF

 

[Thomboy]

Will do! Sometimes the road to higher ground takes some walking in the
valleys, but that is the value of experience -- the best teacher.

Isn't it great that your experiences can help so many people in need?

I also look for ways to help people around me, not with technology, but help
just the same. There is no better feeling than to see someone smile when
they have been trying to solve a problem for days, months, or even years that
you can help them overcome with a few suggestions. It smooths out the hills
and valleys and makes life more livable.

You done good, Gunga Din.

Thomboy

 

[DavidF]

Thanks Thomboy. But the real satisfaction will be when you post back and say
that your site is up and running again. Even though I won't see your smile,
I will imagine it.

DavidF

 

[Thomboy]

David, after all my and your work on this problem, it turned out to be a very
simple FileZilla problem. I was using the name of the host as GoDaddy, when
what was needed was my website address. Host to me does not mean the address
of my website, but logic was not needed.

The site is back up, and even though I would love to say that we both, by
putting our heads together, solved the problem it was a simple naming issue.

At least, and I mean this, your knowledge will come in very handy when I
attempt, to transfer the .pub file from my desktop onto my laptop.

You know David, I tried to put the index_files and the index.htm files on my
desktop, and instead of two files, everything in the index_file was loaded
onto my desktop--all the photos, the .tif files, etc., and while deleting all
of this, I was laughing out loud.

I then loaded the index_files into a folder, and pointed at this folder when
I opened FileZilla, and when I attempted to drag the two files (index_files &
index.htm) to the right side of the FileZilla screen, let me gibe you another
brain f _ _ t. As soon as I put in the correct host name, user name,
password, and port, all the information I wanted to drag to the right side of
the screen was already there.

Go figure? How did this happen?

Try as I may to figure what made this all happen, all I can say is LUCK.

But, again, David, I am very grateful you were there to help me, because I
want to come back to this "your' well again when I try to move the .pub file
from desktop to laptop.

I HOPE THIS IS OK?????

Many thanks.

Thomboy

 

[DavidF]

Well, I am glad you found the solution, though it be a bit circuitous.

DavidF

 

[Thomboy]

Hi David:

I am back again.

We talked briefly about my desktop running Windows Vista Ultra with IE 8,
and my laptop running Windows XP with IE 7.

You suggested uninstalling IE 8 on my desktop, and going back to IE 7, so
there would be fewer problems when I moved my .pub file for my website
(http://www.lcn-hoa.com) to my laptop.

Does it make any sense to load Office 2007 on my laptop, replacing Office
2003 to also remove another hurdle to jump?

In keeping with that question, and only because I have an unopened and new
copy of Windows Vista Home Premium yet to load onto my laptop, would it make
any sense to install the Vista Premium on my laptop so there is more
continuity between my desktop and my laptop?

I have a Core 2 cpu @ 2.00 GHz, plus .99GB of RAM on my laptop, barely
enough for Windows Vista Home Premium to run effecitvely.

Any thoughts?

Thomboy

P.S. I have another Publisher Question about using .pdf files on a
publisher webpage, and how to make it work? I have read and reread the
Office Publisher file, "Save a file in PDF Format," and am still not sure how
to make this happen.

The nine steps in the Office Pub file make it sound very easy, but I cannot
make it work. If you take a quick look at my website, mentioned above, and
click on the page titled, "C&Rs and Legal" and then click on any of the .pdf
links, you get a message that says that IE cannot display this page.

 

[Spike]

Thomboy

This is the link I see on your site for one of your pdf's

\\thomoffice\ActiveFoldrs\HOA - Website Files\index_files\CCR LCNII
157-219_6.pdf

The problem here is the link above that is on your web page

It should be http://www.lcn-hoa.com/XXX.pdf (if the XXX.pdf is in the root
directory)

Suggestion: When you name pdf files omit the spaces in the name of the
files.
When you load the pdf files to your server, place them
in a directory of their own such as downloads to keep them where they are
easy to locate and maintain. The new link then would be:
http://www.lcn-hoa.com/downloads/XXX.pdf

I looked for your pdf's in the root directory but did not find them. Where
did you up load them to?

Spike

 

[Thomboy]

Spike, when I first up loaded them to my website, using FileZilla, a friend
who uses HTML for all his webdesign and knows nothing about Publisher, got
behind the Publisher files, and tweaked them using HTML, and viola, the four
..pdf files uploaded perfectly. We knew at the time that what he did was not
protocol, but in a bind, one accepts anything that works!

There was no problem, until I had to go back and update the website by
myself, and then the message from IE you cite below appeared. You saw what I
saw that the file was on my own hard drive.

Unfotunately, my friend has moved away, and I am NOW on my own.

I am actually beginning from ground zero when it comes to posting .pdf files
on my Publisher driven website. I did read David's note at MSMVPS.COM
titled, "Including external files in a Pullisher web," which indirectly
includes much of what you are saying, but it is directed at users of Pub 2000
when they upgrade to 2002 or 2003.

Not to muddy the water, but I have or Publisher has created some folders on
my C drive that seem to include the index.htm and index_files, and when my
friend earlier got involved in moving the four .pdf files to my Publisher
website, he side stepped the normal step by step process for uploading files
to my host site, and while everything worked, and we were up and running, I
remain confused as to why I have two folders now, each with the same data.

The two folders on the stem of my C-drive are shown as: "www.lcn-hoa.com"
and ftp.lcn-hoa.com" and both have the two main .pub files ("index_file" and
my "index.htm") and they also include "_db_backups; aspnet_client; and
stats." Both may be essential when I use FileZilla to move my two .pub files
to my website, but if so, which one should I save the index_files & index.htm
to when I click on "Publish to the web" before I upgrade my website?

CAN YOU PLEASE LOOK BELOW FOR MY ANSWERS OR QUESTIONS RELATED TO YOUR REPLY?

Thomboy

This is the link I see on your site for one of your pdf's

\\thomoffice\ActiveFoldrs\HOA - Website Files\index_files\CCR LCNII
157-219_6.pdf

The problem here is the link above that is on your web page

It should be http://www.lcn-hoa.com/XXX.pdf (if the XXX.pdf is in the root
directory)

Suggestion: When you name pdf files omit the spaces in the name of the
files.
When you load the pdf files to your server, place them
in a directory of their own such as downloads to keep them where they are
easy to locate and maintain. The new link then would be:
http://www.lcn-hoa.com/downloads/XXX.pdf

OK, I WILL ASSUME THAT I NEED TO CREATE A FOLDER ON MY C-DRIVE, TITLED,
"DOWNLOADS FOR WEBSITE," INTO WHICH I SHOULD SAVE A COPY OF ALL FOUR .PDF
FILES--WITHOUT SPACES. OR, ARE YOU TELLING ME TO SAVE THE FOUR .PDF FILES TO
ONE OF THE MYSTERIOUS TWO FOLDERS MENTIONED ABOVE BEGINNING WITH FTP. OR WWW.?

IF SO, THEN THIS BECOMES MUCH CLEARER.

SORRY FOR SOUNDING SO DENSE, BUT HAVING MY FRIEND HELP ME, ACTUALLY CONFUSED
ME MORE WHEN I CAME BACK TO MOVE THE .PDF FILES CORRECTLY.

I looked for your pdf's in the root directory but did not find them. Where
did you up load them to?

SEE ABOVE PLEASE,

THANKS, THOMBOY

 

[Spike]

Thomboy

Looking over your site it appears that you have the publisher program
publishing all you web files to one directory, I do not see the
"index_files" directory being used and that is OK. Your site looks good and
is working fine as far as I can see.

To clear things up I have a few suggestions:

1. Delete all the htm files that you created on your computer hard drive
(so you don’t get an old one accidently)
2. Create a new folder on your hard drive (any name will do) let's call it
HOA for now
3. Open your pub file using publisher and modify the links for your PDF
files to read "http://www.lcn-hoa.com/downloads/XXX.pdf" without the quotes.
XXX will be different for each PDF file (remember NO spaces please)
4. Using "Publish to the web", publish you files to the new folder HOA
5. Create a sub folder to HOA (any name will do) let's call it "downloads"
for now without the quotes
6. Rename you PDF files to match your links and place them in the DOWNLOADS
folder
7. Go back to the HOA folder. Double click on the index.htm file. This
should bring up the web site on your browser. Go through your site and
check it out. Try the PDF files. If all works the way you want got to step
8. (if not get back here and we will figure it out)
8. Using filezilla, log onto your server. Create a folder on the server in
the root directory named "downloads" without the quotes and all lower case
letters.
9. Using filezilla, transfer the files in the HOA folder on your hard drive
to the root directory on the server
10. Using filezilla, transfer the PDF files form the DOWNLOADS folder on
your computer to the downloads folder on the server.

AND don't feel that you are dense as you are asking GOOD questions. We all
started out that way and with a little help we got better as you will too
soon.

Spike

 

[DavidF]

Hi Thomboy,

Welcome back. I see that Spike has addressed the pdf questions, so I will
comment on the rest.

Until recently I would have probably said that installing Pub 2007 on the
computer where you have Pub 2003 would not be necessary, but today I feel
different. I think it might be a good idea.

Though Pub 2003 and 2007 files are supposed to be interchangeable, I have
read of times where they aren't, and so you would minimize the possibility
of a file conflict.

If you have been reading through the posts of this group you will find
another reason. If you view a Pub 2003 and 2007 web in IE8, any design
elements that are grouped together will not render. So if you selected two
or more design elements on any of your pages, grouped them (Arrange > group)
in order to drag them around or keep their spacing, then those items will
not render, and you have to ungroup them. But more importantly in your case,
Publisher wizard built navbars also don't render, because they are made up
of sometimes three different elements for each button, and all those
elements are grouped together, and thus they don't render. We may have
discussed all of this before. Anyway, the advantage to putting Pub 2007 on
both machines is that it *sounds like* MSFT is going to incorporate a 'fix'
for this grouping problem in the Office 2007 SP2 which is due out by the end
of the month. Obviously if they do it would be to your advantage to be using
Pub 2007, as there is a pretty good chance that no fix will be forthcoming
for Pub 2003, and you will have to use some workarounds. And even if the SP2
does not fix it, I believe that MSFT will eventually fix it, and that fix
might only be available for Pub 2007.

Now, knowing I risk creating a problem for you, could install Pub 2007 and
keep Pub 2003. You just have to do a custom install. I won't belabor this as
it might not be worth the potential problems you might create for yourself.
I currently have 2000, 2003 and 2007 installed on this machine...but I need
them to test and work out solutions for this group.

And one more note. You can legally install one copy of Pub 2007 on a desktop
and a laptop. You might not need to use that new copy of Office unless you
want to.

As per installing the different version of Vista...I really don't know. I
have avoided Vista thus far and hope to skip it all together, and will stay
with XP as long as possible. Somehow I doubt that the upgrade will do any
good...will offer you any advantage, especially since you are only running 1
gig of RAM. But as I said, I really don't know. You might Google the
differences between the two versions and if one offers something the other
doesn't then maybe, I suppose. But I think the 'core' of Vista is the same
and your Pub files should not be affected one way or the other.

Good luck.

DavidF

 

[Thomboy]

Hi Spike:

Thanks for not thinking of me as a moron for not being able to figure out
how to make my .pdf files work.

I began installing an antenna and mast for a poor woman in the neighborhood
yesterday, and must finish it today.

I will make the changes and let you know if I have finally found my way out
of this mess.

Many thanks for taking the time to include such a detailed and helpful reply.

Best, Thomboy

 

[Thomboy]

Hi David:

Funny, but Spike hit the nail on the head; it just takes time to master
Publisher as a website creation tool.

I don't have time to thoroughly read and reply to your post, but I did skim
it. My neighbor wants to wash his flat roof for painting and my poor
friend's antenna is not yet up on her roof, so I have a full day.

I will get back to your suggestions tomorrow and get it done.

As always, thanks for your reply, Thomboy

 

[Thomboy]

Spike, oh how I wish you could see my C-Drive stem showing all the places
where there are files and folders for my website!!!

I NEED TO GO THROUGH A FEW LINES OF INFORMATION BEFORE I BEGIN TO PROCESS
THROUGH THE 10 SUGGESTED STEPS. PLEASE BEAR WITH ME.
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When I deleted the .htm files the first time inside of the "ftp.lch-hoa.com
folder," the entire website disappeared, which is what brought me back to
this site for advice. That is why I am hesitant to delete all of the .htm
files on my C-Drive.

Let me try to show you my C-Drive stem which goes like this:

When I click on My Computer I can immediately see:

Public
Computer
Local Disk C
DVD RW Drive D
Four Removable Disks (E through H)
Active Folders on Thom's Office Computer
doc on www.cerrogrande.loaasalmos.com
E - Win98 on Thom's Office Compuer
ftp.lcn-hoa.com, inside of which is:

_db_backups
aspnet_client
HOA - Website Files
index_files
stats

Inside of the HOA - Website Files are two index_files, and the first one has
nine of the main pages in my website, each with the extension .htm. For
example, the first one is "Page2188.htm" and the second is "Page 317.htm" and
so on. The second index_files, inside of HOA - Website Files has nothing in
it.

The OTHER index_files, below the HOA _Website folder, inside of the
"ftp.lcn-hoa.com" folder has everything dumped into it that begins with
_hcc_thumbs, then index_files, followed by the four .pdf files (#1 =
bylaws_LCNII_6.pdf; #2 = CCR_LCNII1-41_6.pdf; #3 = CCR_LCNII_157-219.pdf; #4
= CCR_LCNII_51-119_6.pdf); filelist.xml; then image1028.gif to Page968.htm --
some seventy-six (76) .jpgs, .gifs, and the final .htm pages, which is
everything to make my website work.

Below the ftp.lcn-hoa.com, is:

My Sharing Files
My web Sites on MSN
Nero Scout
SharedDocs on Thom's Office Computer
v2 on www.memspeed.com

NOW COMES THE SECOND IMPORTANT FOLDER FOR MY WEBSITE:

"www.con-hoa.com"

Inside of this folder is:

_db_backups
aspnet_client
HOA - Website Files
index_files
stats

Everything mentioned above inside of the "ftp.lcn-hoa.com" folder, as you
can see, is also inside this "www.lcn-hoa.com" folder, and I mean everything.

If I keep going down the stem, not to bore you, is where I have placed my
..pub index_files and the index.htm folders when "Publish to the web."

This folder is titled, "ActiveFolders on Thom's Office Computer," and when
opened there are two more folders, called, "HOA - La Canada Norte," and "HOA
- Website Files."

The folder, "HOA - La Canada Norte," is where I work my .pub file is located
for the website.

The "HOA - Website Files" folder is where I place the index_files and the
index.htm results when I click on, "Publish to the web."

THIS IS THE END OF MY LONG LIST OF ITEMS ON MY C-DRIVE STEM:
-------------------------------------
Here are my thoughts about your ten suggested steps......

STEP 1.

As you can see, deleting all the .htm files on my C-Drive is a rather
daunting task, and because of the many locations of those .htm files, I am
not ready yet to follow your first suggestion, "delete all the .htm files
that you created on your compuer hard drive (so you don't get an old one
accidently)."

STEP 2.

You want me to create a new folder called, "HOA"

Remember that I have several files and folders with the HOA title, but with
other wording, so this may work, but knowing me, I will get confused

STEP 3.

As you can see from the above listing, the .pdf files don't have any spaces
between their letters and numbers ((#1 = "bylaws_LCNII_6.pdf"). I think you
are telling me that the first .pdf file should look like:

http://www.lcn-hoa.com/downloads/bylaws_LCNII_6.pdf" (without the quotes)?

STEP 4:

I will Publish to the Web and place the files in the New "HOA" folder.

STEP 5:

I will create a sub-folder, called, "DOWNLOADS."

QUESTION: I guess I am tired, but how does one create a sub-folder inside
of the main HOA folder?

STEP 6:

I will place my .pdf files into the "DOWNLOADS" folder.

QUESTION: I assume here you are talking about a mere copy and paste of the
four .pdf files into the DOWNLOADS folder?

STEP 7:

This step is brand new for me. I never knew that clicking on the index.htm
file would bring up a copy of my website, and that I could click on the .pdf
files to see if they will load for viewing.

OK, I think I better stop for today, because my head is getting too tired,
after being on a roof with 90 degree temps rolling paint for five hours.

More later, Thomboy

 

[Spike]

Thomboy

My comments are { bracketed after each STEP }

Here are my thoughts about your ten suggested steps......