License Question

[Paul]

Hi,

I have Office Small Business 2003 installed on a large number of machines in
my company.

The Excel 2003 that came with Office Small Business (SB Excel) will not run
Visual Studio Tools for Office applications (brain damaged, but true).

I ordered an Excel 2003 Upgrade disk to upgrade the SB Excel 2003 to the
Standalone Excel 2003.

The Excel 2003 upgrade will not upgrade an existing Excel 2003 (requires an
old version to be on the hard drive, or for you to have an old Excel disk
handy).

I have an old MSDN disk that has Excel 2000 on it (from a previous company
that I worked for).

Can I use that MSDN disk on all my machines to convince the Excel 2003
Upgrade that it is, in fact, okay to upgrade my SB Excel 2003.

I have been on the phone for over an hour to Microsoft India so far, and
they don't have any idea. I figure I might get a response from someone on
this group faster...

Thanks,

-Paul

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Paul,

As you've discovered, both Word and Excel have additional
capabilities only in the MS Office 2003 Professional or
Professional Enterprise Editions or when either app is
a standalone edition.

From MS's viewpoint adding an app from the same product
family layer (2003) is considered a crossgrade rather than
an upgrade. Inserting your MSDN 2000 CD *may* work as an install qualifier,
but be sure you uninstall the Small Business Edition copy of
Excel then restart first to keep from getting later requests
for the source CD when applying updates.

In your scenario (multiple machines) you may want to consider
replacing the Small Business Edition with the Professional Edition
rather than mixing SBE with a standalone version of the app
to keep updates later simpler.

====
Hi,

I have Office Small Business 2003 installed on a large number of machines in
my company.

The Excel 2003 that came with Office Small Business (SB Excel) will not run
Visual Studio Tools for Office applications (brain damaged, but true).

I ordered an Excel 2003 Upgrade disk to upgrade the SB Excel 2003 to the
Standalone Excel 2003.

The Excel 2003 upgrade will not upgrade an existing Excel 2003 (requires an
old version to be on the hard drive, or for you to have an old Excel disk
handy).

I have an old MSDN disk that has Excel 2000 on it (from a previous company
that I worked for).

Can I use that MSDN disk on all my machines to convince the Excel 2003
Upgrade that it is, in fact, okay to upgrade my SB Excel 2003.

I have been on the phone for over an hour to Microsoft India so far, and
they don't have any idea. I figure I might get a response from someone on
this group faster...

Thanks,

-Paul >>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

Office 2003 Editions explained
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/office/editions.mspx

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Paul,

As you've discovered, both Word and Excel have additional
capabilities only in the MS Office 2003 Professional or
Professional Enterprise Editions or when either app is
a standalone edition.

From MS's viewpoint adding an app from the same product
family layer (2003) is considered a crossgrade rather than
an upgrade. Inserting your MSDN 2000 CD *may* work as an install qualifier,
but be sure you uninstall the Small Business Edition copy of
Excel then restart first to keep from getting later requests
for the source CD when applying updates.

In your scenario (multiple machines) you may want to consider
replacing the Small Business Edition with the Professional Edition
rather than mixing SBE with a standalone version of the app
to keep updates later simpler.

====
Hi,

I have Office Small Business 2003 installed on a large number of machines in
my company.

The Excel 2003 that came with Office Small Business (SB Excel) will not run
Visual Studio Tools for Office applications (brain damaged, but true).

I ordered an Excel 2003 Upgrade disk to upgrade the SB Excel 2003 to the
Standalone Excel 2003.

The Excel 2003 upgrade will not upgrade an existing Excel 2003 (requires an
old version to be on the hard drive, or for you to have an old Excel disk
handy).

I have an old MSDN disk that has Excel 2000 on it (from a previous company
that I worked for).

Can I use that MSDN disk on all my machines to convince the Excel 2003
Upgrade that it is, in fact, okay to upgrade my SB Excel 2003.

I have been on the phone for over an hour to Microsoft India so far, and
they don't have any idea. I figure I might get a response from someone on
this group faster...

Thanks,

-Paul >>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

Office 2003 Editions explained
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/office/editions.mspx

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Paul,

As you've discovered, both Word and Excel have additional
capabilities only in the MS Office 2003 Professional or
Professional Enterprise Editions or when either app is
a standalone edition.

From MS's viewpoint adding an app from the same product
family layer (2003) is considered a crossgrade rather than
an upgrade. Inserting your MSDN 2000 CD *may* work as an install qualifier,
but be sure you uninstall the Small Business Edition copy of
Excel then restart first to keep from getting later requests
for the source CD when applying updates.

In your scenario (multiple machines) you may want to consider
replacing the Small Business Edition with the Professional Edition
rather than mixing SBE with a standalone version of the app
to keep updates later simpler.

====
Hi,

I have Office Small Business 2003 installed on a large number of machines in
my company.

The Excel 2003 that came with Office Small Business (SB Excel) will not run
Visual Studio Tools for Office applications (brain damaged, but true).

I ordered an Excel 2003 Upgrade disk to upgrade the SB Excel 2003 to the
Standalone Excel 2003.

The Excel 2003 upgrade will not upgrade an existing Excel 2003 (requires an
old version to be on the hard drive, or for you to have an old Excel disk
handy).

I have an old MSDN disk that has Excel 2000 on it (from a previous company
that I worked for).

Can I use that MSDN disk on all my machines to convince the Excel 2003
Upgrade that it is, in fact, okay to upgrade my SB Excel 2003.

I have been on the phone for over an hour to Microsoft India so far, and
they don't have any idea. I figure I might get a response from someone on
this group faster...

Thanks,

-Paul >>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

Office 2003 Editions explained
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/office/editions.mspx

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Paul,

As you've discovered, both Word and Excel have additional
capabilities only in the MS Office 2003 Professional or
Professional Enterprise Editions or when either app is
a standalone edition.

From MS's viewpoint adding an app from the same product
family layer (2003) is considered a crossgrade rather than
an upgrade. Inserting your MSDN 2000 CD *may* work as an install qualifier,
but be sure you uninstall the Small Business Edition copy of
Excel then restart first to keep from getting later requests
for the source CD when applying updates.

In your scenario (multiple machines) you may want to consider
replacing the Small Business Edition with the Professional Edition
rather than mixing SBE with a standalone version of the app
to keep updates later simpler.

====
Hi,

I have Office Small Business 2003 installed on a large number of machines in
my company.

The Excel 2003 that came with Office Small Business (SB Excel) will not run
Visual Studio Tools for Office applications (brain damaged, but true).

I ordered an Excel 2003 Upgrade disk to upgrade the SB Excel 2003 to the
Standalone Excel 2003.

The Excel 2003 upgrade will not upgrade an existing Excel 2003 (requires an
old version to be on the hard drive, or for you to have an old Excel disk
handy).

I have an old MSDN disk that has Excel 2000 on it (from a previous company
that I worked for).

Can I use that MSDN disk on all my machines to convince the Excel 2003
Upgrade that it is, in fact, okay to upgrade my SB Excel 2003.

I have been on the phone for over an hour to Microsoft India so far, and
they don't have any idea. I figure I might get a response from someone on
this group faster...

Thanks,

-Paul >>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

Office 2003 Editions explained
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/office/editions.mspx

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Paul,

As you've discovered, both Word and Excel have additional
capabilities only in the MS Office 2003 Professional or
Professional Enterprise Editions or when either app is
a standalone edition.

From MS's viewpoint adding an app from the same product
family layer (2003) is considered a crossgrade rather than
an upgrade. Inserting your MSDN 2000 CD *may* work as an install qualifier,
but be sure you uninstall the Small Business Edition copy of
Excel then restart first to keep from getting later requests
for the source CD when applying updates.

In your scenario (multiple machines) you may want to consider
replacing the Small Business Edition with the Professional Edition
rather than mixing SBE with a standalone version of the app
to keep updates later simpler.

====
Hi,

I have Office Small Business 2003 installed on a large number of machines in
my company.

The Excel 2003 that came with Office Small Business (SB Excel) will not run
Visual Studio Tools for Office applications (brain damaged, but true).

I ordered an Excel 2003 Upgrade disk to upgrade the SB Excel 2003 to the
Standalone Excel 2003.

The Excel 2003 upgrade will not upgrade an existing Excel 2003 (requires an
old version to be on the hard drive, or for you to have an old Excel disk
handy).

I have an old MSDN disk that has Excel 2000 on it (from a previous company
that I worked for).

Can I use that MSDN disk on all my machines to convince the Excel 2003
Upgrade that it is, in fact, okay to upgrade my SB Excel 2003.

I have been on the phone for over an hour to Microsoft India so far, and
they don't have any idea. I figure I might get a response from someone on
this group faster...

Thanks,

-Paul >>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

Office 2003 Editions explained
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/office/editions.mspx

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Paul,

As you've discovered, both Word and Excel have additional
capabilities only in the MS Office 2003 Professional or
Professional Enterprise Editions or when either app is
a standalone edition.

From MS's viewpoint adding an app from the same product
family layer (2003) is considered a crossgrade rather than
an upgrade. Inserting your MSDN 2000 CD *may* work as an install qualifier,
but be sure you uninstall the Small Business Edition copy of
Excel then restart first to keep from getting later requests
for the source CD when applying updates.

In your scenario (multiple machines) you may want to consider
replacing the Small Business Edition with the Professional Edition
rather than mixing SBE with a standalone version of the app
to keep updates later simpler.

====
Hi,

I have Office Small Business 2003 installed on a large number of machines in
my company.

The Excel 2003 that came with Office Small Business (SB Excel) will not run
Visual Studio Tools for Office applications (brain damaged, but true).

I ordered an Excel 2003 Upgrade disk to upgrade the SB Excel 2003 to the
Standalone Excel 2003.

The Excel 2003 upgrade will not upgrade an existing Excel 2003 (requires an
old version to be on the hard drive, or for you to have an old Excel disk
handy).

I have an old MSDN disk that has Excel 2000 on it (from a previous company
that I worked for).

Can I use that MSDN disk on all my machines to convince the Excel 2003
Upgrade that it is, in fact, okay to upgrade my SB Excel 2003.

I have been on the phone for over an hour to Microsoft India so far, and
they don't have any idea. I figure I might get a response from someone on
this group faster...

Thanks,

-Paul >>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

Office 2003 Editions explained
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/office/editions.mspx

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Paul,

As you've discovered, both Word and Excel have additional
capabilities only in the MS Office 2003 Professional or
Professional Enterprise Editions or when either app is
a standalone edition.

From MS's viewpoint adding an app from the same product
family layer (2003) is considered a crossgrade rather than
an upgrade. Inserting your MSDN 2000 CD *may* work as an install qualifier,
but be sure you uninstall the Small Business Edition copy of
Excel then restart first to keep from getting later requests
for the source CD when applying updates.

In your scenario (multiple machines) you may want to consider
replacing the Small Business Edition with the Professional Edition
rather than mixing SBE with a standalone version of the app
to keep updates later simpler.

====
Hi,

I have Office Small Business 2003 installed on a large number of machines in
my company.

The Excel 2003 that came with Office Small Business (SB Excel) will not run
Visual Studio Tools for Office applications (brain damaged, but true).

I ordered an Excel 2003 Upgrade disk to upgrade the SB Excel 2003 to the
Standalone Excel 2003.

The Excel 2003 upgrade will not upgrade an existing Excel 2003 (requires an
old version to be on the hard drive, or for you to have an old Excel disk
handy).

I have an old MSDN disk that has Excel 2000 on it (from a previous company
that I worked for).

Can I use that MSDN disk on all my machines to convince the Excel 2003
Upgrade that it is, in fact, okay to upgrade my SB Excel 2003.

I have been on the phone for over an hour to Microsoft India so far, and
they don't have any idea. I figure I might get a response from someone on
this group faster...

Thanks,

-Paul >>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

Office 2003 Editions explained
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/office/editions.mspx

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Paul,

As you've discovered, both Word and Excel have additional
capabilities only in the MS Office 2003 Professional or
Professional Enterprise Editions or when either app is
a standalone edition.

From MS's viewpoint adding an app from the same product
family layer (2003) is considered a crossgrade rather than
an upgrade. Inserting your MSDN 2000 CD *may* work as an install qualifier,
but be sure you uninstall the Small Business Edition copy of
Excel then restart first to keep from getting later requests
for the source CD when applying updates.

In your scenario (multiple machines) you may want to consider
replacing the Small Business Edition with the Professional Edition
rather than mixing SBE with a standalone version of the app
to keep updates later simpler.

====
Hi,

I have Office Small Business 2003 installed on a large number of machines in
my company.

The Excel 2003 that came with Office Small Business (SB Excel) will not run
Visual Studio Tools for Office applications (brain damaged, but true).

I ordered an Excel 2003 Upgrade disk to upgrade the SB Excel 2003 to the
Standalone Excel 2003.

The Excel 2003 upgrade will not upgrade an existing Excel 2003 (requires an
old version to be on the hard drive, or for you to have an old Excel disk
handy).

I have an old MSDN disk that has Excel 2000 on it (from a previous company
that I worked for).

Can I use that MSDN disk on all my machines to convince the Excel 2003
Upgrade that it is, in fact, okay to upgrade my SB Excel 2003.

I have been on the phone for over an hour to Microsoft India so far, and
they don't have any idea. I figure I might get a response from someone on
this group faster...

Thanks,

-Paul >>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

Office 2003 Editions explained
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/office/editions.mspx

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Paul,

As you've discovered, both Word and Excel have additional
capabilities only in the MS Office 2003 Professional or
Professional Enterprise Editions or when either app is
a standalone edition.

From MS's viewpoint adding an app from the same product
family layer (2003) is considered a crossgrade rather than
an upgrade. Inserting your MSDN 2000 CD *may* work as an install qualifier,
but be sure you uninstall the Small Business Edition copy of
Excel then restart first to keep from getting later requests
for the source CD when applying updates.

In your scenario (multiple machines) you may want to consider
replacing the Small Business Edition with the Professional Edition
rather than mixing SBE with a standalone version of the app
to keep updates later simpler.

====
Hi,

I have Office Small Business 2003 installed on a large number of machines in
my company.

The Excel 2003 that came with Office Small Business (SB Excel) will not run
Visual Studio Tools for Office applications (brain damaged, but true).

I ordered an Excel 2003 Upgrade disk to upgrade the SB Excel 2003 to the
Standalone Excel 2003.

The Excel 2003 upgrade will not upgrade an existing Excel 2003 (requires an
old version to be on the hard drive, or for you to have an old Excel disk
handy).

I have an old MSDN disk that has Excel 2000 on it (from a previous company
that I worked for).

Can I use that MSDN disk on all my machines to convince the Excel 2003
Upgrade that it is, in fact, okay to upgrade my SB Excel 2003.

I have been on the phone for over an hour to Microsoft India so far, and
they don't have any idea. I figure I might get a response from someone on
this group faster...

Thanks,

-Paul >>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

Office 2003 Editions explained
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/office/editions.mspx

 

[Paul]

Bob,

Thanks for responding. I know that the "crossgrade" can work by tricking
the upgrade disk with the MSDN disk (I have tried it already). And yes, I
have to uninstall the existing Excel first. I guess my question was more
concerned with whether or not it was legal to do that with 16 machines using
the same MSDN disk.

I would have upgraded SBE to Pro, except that I can get the Excel Upgrade
for $90, (around $1,500 for 16 machines) and the Pro for $300 (around
$4,800)!

-Paul

 

[Paul]

Bob,

Thanks for responding. I know that the "crossgrade" can work by tricking
the upgrade disk with the MSDN disk (I have tried it already). And yes, I
have to uninstall the existing Excel first. I guess my question was more
concerned with whether or not it was legal to do that with 16 machines using
the same MSDN disk.

I would have upgraded SBE to Pro, except that I can get the Excel Upgrade
for $90, (around $1,500 for 16 machines) and the Pro for $300 (around
$4,800)!

-Paul

 

[Paul]

Bob,

Thanks for responding. I know that the "crossgrade" can work by tricking
the upgrade disk with the MSDN disk (I have tried it already). And yes, I
have to uninstall the existing Excel first. I guess my question was more
concerned with whether or not it was legal to do that with 16 machines using
the same MSDN disk.

I would have upgraded SBE to Pro, except that I can get the Excel Upgrade
for $90, (around $1,500 for 16 machines) and the Pro for $300 (around
$4,800)!

-Paul

 

[Paul]

Bob,

Thanks for responding. I know that the "crossgrade" can work by tricking
the upgrade disk with the MSDN disk (I have tried it already). And yes, I
have to uninstall the existing Excel first. I guess my question was more
concerned with whether or not it was legal to do that with 16 machines using
the same MSDN disk.

I would have upgraded SBE to Pro, except that I can get the Excel Upgrade
for $90, (around $1,500 for 16 machines) and the Pro for $300 (around
$4,800)!

-Paul

 

[Paul]

Bob,

Thanks for responding. I know that the "crossgrade" can work by tricking
the upgrade disk with the MSDN disk (I have tried it already). And yes, I
have to uninstall the existing Excel first. I guess my question was more
concerned with whether or not it was legal to do that with 16 machines using
the same MSDN disk.

I would have upgraded SBE to Pro, except that I can get the Excel Upgrade
for $90, (around $1,500 for 16 machines) and the Pro for $300 (around
$4,800)!

-Paul

 

[Paul]

Bob,

Thanks for responding. I know that the "crossgrade" can work by tricking
the upgrade disk with the MSDN disk (I have tried it already). And yes, I
have to uninstall the existing Excel first. I guess my question was more
concerned with whether or not it was legal to do that with 16 machines using
the same MSDN disk.

I would have upgraded SBE to Pro, except that I can get the Excel Upgrade
for $90, (around $1,500 for 16 machines) and the Pro for $300 (around
$4,800)!

-Paul

 

[Paul]

Bob,

Thanks for responding. I know that the "crossgrade" can work by tricking
the upgrade disk with the MSDN disk (I have tried it already). And yes, I
have to uninstall the existing Excel first. I guess my question was more
concerned with whether or not it was legal to do that with 16 machines using
the same MSDN disk.

I would have upgraded SBE to Pro, except that I can get the Excel Upgrade
for $90, (around $1,500 for 16 machines) and the Pro for $300 (around
$4,800)!

-Paul

 

[Paul]

Bob,

Thanks for responding. I know that the "crossgrade" can work by tricking
the upgrade disk with the MSDN disk (I have tried it already). And yes, I
have to uninstall the existing Excel first. I guess my question was more
concerned with whether or not it was legal to do that with 16 machines using
the same MSDN disk.

I would have upgraded SBE to Pro, except that I can get the Excel Upgrade
for $90, (around $1,500 for 16 machines) and the Pro for $300 (around
$4,800)!

-Paul

 

[Paul]

Bob,

Thanks for responding. I know that the "crossgrade" can work by tricking
the upgrade disk with the MSDN disk (I have tried it already). And yes, I
have to uninstall the existing Excel first. I guess my question was more
concerned with whether or not it was legal to do that with 16 machines using
the same MSDN disk.

I would have upgraded SBE to Pro, except that I can get the Excel Upgrade
for $90, (around $1,500 for 16 machines) and the Pro for $300 (around
$4,800)!

-Paul

 

[Ada Pan [MSFT]]

Hi Paul,

According to your description, I know that you want to make sure if it is
legal using one MSDN disk to upgrade to Excel 2003 Pro.

As I know, if there are sufficient licenses for the original version and
new version of Office for your workstations, it should be valid to use your
Excel 2000 CD to perform the upgrading process. Since I am focused on the
technical issue, I would like to suggest you to directly contact our
Microsoft Customer Service Representatives by phone to confirm. They can be
reached Monday through Friday, from 6:30 A.M. to 5:30 P.M. Pacific Time at
(800) 426-9400.

You can still confirm with MS India for confirmation in case it involves
localized version.

Regards,

Ada Pan

Microsoft Online Partner Support
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