master slides

[Alice]

Hi, When I start a new presentation I go to Master slide view. I want to use either use the title placeholder or the subtitle placeholder not both. When I delete one or the other from the master view it does show up on the normal view. I make about 100 slides per week with beautiful backgrounds and 2 or 3 lines of text on each. Then I save them on my hardrive which I can use later. Most of the time I like to change the background and when I check the checkbox to delete background from master slides it doesnt work sometimes. Any suggestions on these. Thanks

 

[Alice]

This is Alice again. I use XP 2002 Thanks

 

[PPTMagician]

Hi Alice,

PowerPoint doesn't (currently) allow customization of the
placeholders. You have to use the slide layouts included
in PowerPoint and add/delete the items you want.

HTH,
Glenna

 

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[Alice]

Thank you for your response. I am trying to understand your answer. So if I am correct, I have to delete from every slide the title placeholder so I can use the main placeholder. (The title placeholder gets in my way) I wish I could delete the title placeholder from the master slide. This is alot of work for me to delete the title placeholder on 100 slides per week.Thanks again, I have alot more questions.

 

[Michael Koerner]

Why go to all the bother to delete it. If it is not used, it does not appear on
your slide. If you don't want them, then drag them off the slide. If used, they
will still show up in your outline, but not in the presentation, Once you have
either moved them or deleted them, then save your presentation as a template
file .pot so that the next time you use the template you won't have to move
things around.

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Thank you for your response. I am trying to understand your answer. So if I am
correct, I have to delete from every slide the title placeholder so I can use
the main placeholder. (The title placeholder gets in my way) I wish I could
delete the title placeholder from the master slide. This is alot of work for me
to delete the title placeholder on 100 slides per week.Thanks again, I have alot
more questions.

 

[Michael Koerner]

They will drag off to the side. Change your view to something like 50%, and try
it again. Sometimes if your at full screen, PowerPoint gets confused, when you
try to move the place holders. Once they are moved, you can return your view to
whatever it was in the first place.

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Thanks I have never tried saving it as a file .pot I will try that. As for
dragging it off the slide I have tried that in Normal View and also Master View
and it wont go off the slide at all. Thanks Alice

 

[alice]

Michael, When I insert from "files from outline" my word document comes over to PP and some of the words are hidden with the main placeholder. I have to go through all of my presentation to delete the main placeholder on every slide then I can center the title placeholder where I want it. I dont know why the document inserts itself in the title placeholder to begin with. That's why I like to get rid of the title placeholder from the master first before I insert the document. But when I do that and the title placeholder shows up anyway. This thing is driving me nuts. I really know alot but not in the right combination. Thanks Alice

 

[alice]

Steve, this does seem to work the best= Dont use master slide layout just normal slide layout and use the title placeholder. But I would really like to use the master slides so I dont have to go into every slide of my presentation and change things. It would be so much easier just to do it off the master slide. Everyone I personally talk to does not use the master layout. I wonder why? Alice

 

[alice]

Steve, This is Alice again. Last night I worked up a master slide the way I wanted it and then closed it and it's not in the normal slide view, why? Thanks Alice

 

[Sonia]

Did you save the file after making your changes? If not then they have been
lost and will need to be made again. The Master Slide is physically part of
your presentation.
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Steve, This is Alice again. Last night I worked up a master slide the way

I wanted it and then closed it and it's not in the normal slide view, why?
Thanks Alice

 

[alice]

Steve, This is what I did. Starting a new presentation=open PP go to View Master slide-INsert picture from file-Pick a picture stretch it out to fit the slide-go to draw take picture to background so the placeholders are on top of the picture.Then I delete main placeholder maybe I shouldnt do this but I do then arrange title placeholder where I want it and pick the font and size and color and bold etc. then I "save as" give it a name and pick Design template. Then close out the master slide to view the normal view. The subtitle placeholder shows up filled in white with black outline line around it. Why? Delete the subtitle placeholder. Select the one and only slide I have in the left pane-go to Insert slides from outline pick a song text in documents folder- insert, once again big placeholder shows up filled in white with black outline line around the white box. Why? Then I go through all 10 slides to delete that white placeholder so my picture with the text shows up on the slides. What am I doing wrong! Please help. Thanks Alice

 

[alice]

Steve, I don't know what B & W view is, and I looked around and couldnt find it. I did as you said-made a title master and slide master and modified it the way I wanted and I saved it and also pickeled it which is you put the little stick pin on it to preserve it so it wont go away. Got it just the way I wanted it and tried putting on a picture on it and it wont take the picture. Close it out went to normal view and added a picture- went to insert from files from outline to add the song text and that blassed white filled title placeholder showed up with the black outline line also. My friend in Canada told me to go into master view select the placeholder go to format placeholder and choose no fill no line and that is already choosen. Why is this happening. My partner at work thinks my pp is messed up. Another customer of mine thinks I should unistall it an re install it. I dont know if I should do that. Thanks Alice

 

[Echo S]

I did as you said-made a title master and slide master and modified it the way
I wanted and I saved it and also pickeled it which is you put the little stick
pin on it to preserve it so it wont go away.

The which? You lost me on that one.

This sounds to me as if Alice is using PPT 2002 or 2003. You have to
"preserve the master" (right-click and choose Preserve Master -- you get a
little thumbtack icon after doing this) if you create a master slide but
haven't applied it to any slides yet. If you don't do this, PPT will delete
the master since no slides are using it.

 

[alice]

Oh Steve I forgot to tell you on your question about if I had any error messages when doing my presentation. No no error messages at all. Alice

 

[alice]

Steve, Yes, I went to View then Color/Greyscale and the Color part is choosen.
I am sorry I lost you. I will try to do my best. You told me to make a master slide and title slide and modify it the way I wanted it, and save it as a Design Template. I did just that and then went to Normal View and you would think that the template I just made would be there, but it's not. It has that white box with black outline line around it. Why? Thanks Alice

 

[alice]

Steve, You said to see if I can jest add text to the PP slides on the left of my screen. Yes, I can. This time I just opened PP stayed in Normal View did not go to Master View and didnot add a picture at this time. I just went to Insert-slides from outline and added my song text. It worked ok then I went to Master View and chose the things I wanted. This worked just fine with little cleaning up. The problem I have is when I add a picture first. Alice

 

[Echo S]

Steve, You said to see if I can jest add text to the PP slides on the left

of my screen. Yes, I can. This time I just opened PP stayed in Normal View
did not go to Master View and didnot add a picture at this time. I just went
to Insert-slides from outline and added my song text. It worked ok then I
went to Master View and chose the things I wanted. This worked just fine
with little cleaning up. The problem I have is when I add a picture first.
Alice

I'm losing track of this thread because I'm just seeing bits and pieces with
each individual post, but I think I understand that you're seeing a
placeholder/textbox of some sort with a white fill when you add a picture as
your background.

Is this just when you're actually editing text in the placeholder? If so,
it's because PPT 2002 (aka PPT XP) actually compensates for the fact that
you have a photo, and it gives you a contrasting fill in the placeholder so
you can see the text while you're typing it. It should go away after you
click outside the placeholder.

If that's not it, you might try this when making your master slides:
1. Don't delete the "click here to add <whatever text> placeholders
2. Yes, I know you don't want those there, so just format them with 6-pt
text the same color as your background color. Oh, you have a photo as the
background, right? That's okay, just format the placeholders to 6-pt text,
and use black as the font color. We can fix that later if it resolves your
fill problems.
3. Next, check your autoshape default settings. I can't tell what you're
doing amidst all these posts, but I suspect you're just drawing a regular
textbox and typing in it.
a. Do that for one textbox -- that is, click the textbox icon, click on
the slide, and type some text (it doesn't matter what).
b. Then format the text and textbox the way you want it.
c. Then right-click the textbox and choose "autoshape defaults."
d. To be on the safe side, with the formatted textbox selected, go to
Format/Fonts and select "default for new objects."

See, when you set your text formatting on the slide master, that formatting
is for text in the slide placeholders. But you said somewhere, I think, that
you don't want to use the slide placeholders. In fact, I think you were
deleting them from all slides? So the fill is probably coming from somewhere
else.

 

[alice]

Thanks Echo S, I tried what you said and I dont think that is the problem. I think I should check "Include Original" with every tread so that you all can understand what I am saying. I was telling Steve that all I want to do each week for our church is have 5 different pictures or background templates to add text on that are songs. I have 100 slides per week to work on. I can do this in about 6 different ways but cant find the right combination to do it. I really want to learn the Master Slides but have some problems. I dont know if my PP is messed up or not, cus I dont have anything to compare it with.
What I have been doing is open up PP go to Master View modify the slide the way I want it add a picture which I can do alot of different ways the make sure the placeholders are on top go to Normal View-Insert-slides from outline-pick a song in text format from a word Doc. then PP makes lots of slides for me with text on them. I have at this point to clean up the text cus some of the words are above the placeholders but MY PROBLEM IS AT THIS POINT IS THE WHITE FILL COLOR AND BLACK OUTLINE LINE IS THERE, which I cant understand since the autoshape says no fill no line. Why does it do this? I go back to Master Side and it's not there to get rid of it. I have to go back to Normal View and delete each slide indivually which is a pain. Thanks for trying to fiqure this out. Alic

----- Echo S wrote: ----

Steve, You said to see if I can jest add text to the PP slides on the lef

of my screen. Yes, I can. This time I just opened PP stayed in Normal Vie
did not go to Master View and didnot add a picture at this time. I just wen
to Insert-slides from outline and added my song text. It worked ok then
went to Master View and chose the things I wanted. This worked just fin
with little cleaning up. The problem I have is when I add a picture first
Alic

I'm losing track of this thread because I'm just seeing bits and pieces wit
each individual post, but I think I understand that you're seeing
placeholder/textbox of some sort with a white fill when you add a picture a
your background

Is this just when you're actually editing text in the placeholder? If so
it's because PPT 2002 (aka PPT XP) actually compensates for the fact tha
you have a photo, and it gives you a contrasting fill in the placeholder s
you can see the text while you're typing it. It should go away after yo
click outside the placeholder

If that's not it, you might try this when making your master slides
1. Don't delete the "click here to add <whatever text> placeholder
2. Yes, I know you don't want those there, so just format them with 6-p
text the same color as your background color. Oh, you have a photo as th
background, right? That's okay, just format the placeholders to 6-pt text
and use black as the font color. We can fix that later if it resolves you
fill problems
3. Next, check your autoshape default settings. I can't tell what you'r
doing amidst all these posts, but I suspect you're just drawing a regula
textbox and typing in it
a. Do that for one textbox -- that is, click the textbox icon, click o
the slide, and type some text (it doesn't matter what)
b. Then format the text and textbox the way you want it
c. Then right-click the textbox and choose "autoshape defaults.
d. To be on the safe side, with the formatted textbox selected, go t
Format/Fonts and select "default for new objects.

See, when you set your text formatting on the slide master, that formattin
is for text in the slide placeholders. But you said somewhere, I think, tha
you don't want to use the slide placeholders. In fact, I think you wer
deleting them from all slides? So the fill is probably coming from somewher
else.

 

[Echo S]

Ok, I have a couple of guesses. My comments are inline.

Thanks Echo S, I tried what you said and I dont think that is the problem.

I think I should check "Include Original" with every tread so that you all
can understand what I am saying. I was telling Steve that all I want to do
each week for our church is have 5 different pictures or background
templates to add text on that are songs. I have 100 slides per week to work
on. I can do this in about 6 different ways but cant find the right
combination to do it. I really want to learn the Master Slides but have some
problems. I dont know if my PP is messed up or not, cus I dont have anything
to compare it with.

I doubt your installation of PPT is messed up.

What I have been doing is open up PP go to Master View modify the slide

the way I want it add a picture which I can do alot of different ways the
make sure the placeholders are on top go to Normal View-Insert-slides from
outline-pick a song in text format from a word Doc. then PP makes lots of
slides for me with text on them. I have at this point to clean up the text
cus some of the words are above the placeholders

Ok, I'm pretty sure I know what's happening here. See, PPT imports text from
Word based on the styles you've used in Word when creating the text. So I
think what you're seeing is all your text coming in as individual slide
titles, which makes for a lot of cleanup.

I would recommend that you spend a little time in the Word document just
adding styles to your existing text. Here's how it will transfer to PPT:

Word --> PPT
Heading 1 --> Slide title
Heading 2-->Primary bullet
Heading 3-->Secondary bullet.

Whenever PPT sees text which is specified in Word as Heading 1 style, it
creates a new slide.

I know you don't use the placeholders, but if you're going to import Word
text the way you are (Insert/Slides/From Outline), then the text is going to
be placed in a placeholder. Period. There's nothing you can do about that,
although you can save yourself some cleanup time by using the placeholders
as they're intended.

When you create your master slide, don't delete the text placeholder.
Instead, resize it and reposition it so it is at least similar to what you
want your slides to look like. Remove the bullets from the placeholder if
you want. Set the color of the text and all that, but don't just delete the
thing. Or resize and move it out of the way (down into a corner of the slide
or something).

Then when you're creating your actual slides, select the Title and Text
slide layout (or even use just the Title Slide layout). The placeholders
should be positioned and formatted on those slides in the manner you
specified on your master slide.

but MY PROBLEM IS AT THIS POINT IS THE WHITE FILL COLOR AND BLACK OUTLINE

LINE IS THERE, which I cant understand since the autoshape says no fill no
line. Why does it do this? I go back to Master Side and it's not there to
get rid of it. I have to go back to Normal View and delete each slide
indivually which is a pain. Thanks for trying to fiqure this out.

Ok. I know I babbled up above about stuff that isn't really what you're
concerned about right this second. I know you just want to get rid of the
white fill and black outline, but reading through and working through the
suggestions above may help you accomplish this as well.

That said, here's what I think is going on with the white fill/black
outline.

My first thought is that you just need to reapply the slide layout (not the
slide master) to your slides after you import your Word document.

For example, if I import a Word file into a presentation here using PPT 2002
(aka PPT XP), even though my template (my master slide) specifies Futura
White 40 pt as the title font, the text comes into the title placeholder
formatted as Verdana 40pt bold, and it's black. (I suspect that's because my
Word document uses Verdana Bold 16 pt color=black for Heading 1 style. PPT's
applying the slide master's 40-pt size, but it doesn't touch the rest of the
formatting.)

If I reapply the slide master to the slide, it doesn't do anything to the
slide. The title font still stays black Verdana bold 40pt. But if I reapply
the slide *layout* (I use the title and text layout), the title font changes
to what is specified on the slide master -- that is, it changes to Futura
White 40 pt (not bold).

This is why it's important that you don't delete the placeholders from your
master slides, as it doesn't really help anything, and it may actually be
hurting things.

If you don't want the bulleted text layout, then use just a Title Slide
layout and format your Title Slide Master appropriately. That is, resize and
reposition the title placeholder, and format the font size and color in that
placeholder as well. If you go that route, you'll want to set up your Word
document so that all the text in it is formatted as Heading 1 so it all
comes in as title text. Then just reapply the slide layout to the slides.
You can do that in slide sorter view to speed things along.

You know what? I just tested something here. I deleted the placeholders from
my master slides, and guess what. When I import slides from outline, PPT
automatically creates placeholders on the slides as determined by the
heading styles in Word -- *and they all have a big white fill*. I think
that's the crux of the issue here.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
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