note container and a picture object making one crazy

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exciter

Yes thus must be a bug.

I have a simple large note conatiner.
I pasted a picture using screen clipping.
I can place the picture whereever I want on the right hand side of the
container but when
I drag the picture on the left hand side inside the container
the picture jumps to specific palces (hence the mouse becomes
uncontrollable).
Why does this stupiddity happen?
 
E

exciter

But 007 =) does not work on windows 2000, the os at my work!

What will people like me have to do?
I am getting disaapointed that there will not be a service pack for 003.
=(
 
P

Patrick Schmid

A service pack wouldn't help you. Service packs only fix bugs, they
don't change the behavior of features. SP1 for OneNote 2003 was an
exemption that won't be repeated.

Patrick Schmid
 
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exciter

why what i experience is not a bug?
And I critisize ms for not providing any further service pack or support for
ON 2003.
You advertise the product and sell it and then dont provide any further
fixes.
This simply does not seem fair.
 
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Patrick Schmid

It sounds like ON 2003 has a feature in which it snaps pictures into
certain places within a note container (I think ON 2007 does something
similar, but with much improved behavior over what you see). What you
are asking for is therefore to get a feature tweaked, not a bug fixed.
You really can't complain about OneNote 2003. SP1 provided you with much
improvement and you didn't have to pay a dime for it. I think after a
product has been on the market for 3-4 years, it is fair for a software
company to ask us to pay again if we want improved and new features.
MS btw will still fix critical bugs, such as security issues, crashes
etc. Feature tweaking just isn't critical. As there will probably be
another Office 2003 service pack, you can also expect another SP for
OneNote.
Just to clarify, I don't work for Microsoft. I have to buy software like
you do. In the interest of full disclosure, I get Office and Windows
though a campus-software agreement of my university. However, I have to
pay a technology fee of $300 a year. In addition, I don't know if Office
2007 will be available via this agreement right away when it is
released. If not, I have every intention of buying it directly myself.
And as the last remark: Microsoft is providing OneNote 2007 for at least
6 months free of charge for anyone to use (MS introduced a $1.50
download fee a few weeks ago. It was available free of charge for
several months though). Sure it is a beta version and has its problems,
but the product is rather stable and can be used in a production
environment. Heck, I have been using it exclusively since last November
and it was rather stable already back then (for a first beta version).
Naturally, if you are not willing to deal with beta software issues
(minor and major hassles, crashes, potential data loss, performance
issues, etc), then OneNote 2007 is not for you.

Patrick Schmid
 
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Rainald Taesler

exciter in (e-mail address removed) shared these words of
wisdom:
why what i experience is not a bug?

Depends on the definition of a bug ;-)
And I critisize ms for not providing any further service pack or
support for ON 2003.

I understand that you are disappointed. But IMO you can not blame MS
for the behaviour of your employer who sticks with an OS which soon
will be two generations behind.
Was anybody entitled to complain on missing features implemented in
Winword but not available in Word for DOS 5.0? Could he blame MS for
missing the feature only because of his company not making the move
from DOS to Windows 3.0?
You advertise the product and sell it and then dont provide any
further fixes.
This simply does not seem fair.

In the case given it is not true that no fixes were provided.
Contrary to what is usual in the software cosmos, MS in fact with the
ON SP1 did provide not only fixes but add quite some features.
This was an exception - AFAICS because ON 2003 was the first version
of a totally new type of software and quite some issues came up only
after its release. Instead of labelling the update version 1.5 or 2.0
and selling it as an upgrade - as is usual in the software industry -
it came as a "Service pack" for free. Fair enough, IMHO.
But no one can expect that this exceptional kind of policy would be
continued ad nauseam.

Sad as the outcome is in your case, it is just the usual way of doing
things to no longer produce add-ons and/or patches once a new version
is under construction.
ON 2007 - AFAICS sold a fair update price - solves a lot problem which
could not be fixed in the 1.0 version of ON. And one can not blame MS
that the new version will not run an outdated OS.

Rainald
 
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Rainald Taesler

Patrick Schmid in (e-mail address removed) shared these
words of wisdom:
It sounds like ON 2003 has a feature in which it snaps pictures into
certain places within a note container (I think ON 2007 does
something
similar, but with much improved behaviour over what you see).

Can't say for ON 2003 which I only bought and then jumped to its
successor immediately <g>.
But it's really and confusing - and irritating - in On 2007. Only to
often one really cannot predict where a pasted image will be placed in
a container. And only too often images just stick to their place and
cannot be moved.
And what really bothers me is the fact that their is not feature for
making the text flowing around or besides an image - moving an image
inside a container pushing the text up or down, etc. etc.

I could not yet even grasp the beginning of a red yarn thread on what
ON does when, only some observations. So it seems that an image pasted
from a web-page will keep its alignment properties. If it was in a
table of the HTML page aligned right, it seems that it will be
imported into ON with this property and stick to the right side
without being moveable.

And I made a great discovery today:
If an image is marked, alignment shortcut-keys (Ctrl+L, Ctrl+E,
Ctrl+R) work on the position of the image (in the container as well as
in a cell).
But all in all one of the things driving me nuts.

Rainald
*-- P.S.
You really can't complain about OneNote 2003. SP1 provided you with
much improvement and you didn't have to pay a dime for it. I think
after a product has been on the market for 3-4 years, it is fair for
a software company to ask us to pay again if we want improved and
new
features.

I had a big fat grin when I saw that in msgs written in exactly the
same time (yours landed on the server just 1 minute before mine <g>)
on both sides of the Atlantic Ocean some of the paragraphs are almost
identical <g>
 

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