Onenote integration with Endnote


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Peter

Has anyone worked out a way to integrate Endnote to Onenote? I'm just
beginning to use Onenote for research note taking, and realise that without
linking these ideas, summaries, quotes etc to the original source, the power
of Onenote is considerably compromised. I use Endnote extensively, and it's
doing the referencing job nicely. It would be ideal if there is a way Onenote
can be integrated with Endnote. This seems to be an old question. I wonder if
there is any new development?
 
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Rainald Taesler

Peter said:
Has anyone worked out a way to integrate Endnote to Onenote?
Sorry, I'm having difficulties in seeing your point :-(
Why "integrate" a third-party programs?
I'm just
beginning to use Onenote for research note taking, and realise that
without linking these ideas, summaries, quotes etc to the original
source, the power of Onenote is considerably compromised.
What do you mean by "linking to the original source"?
References to websites where you gathered information?

That's built-in in ON.
Whenever you copy stuff from a website, a link to the source us
automatically inserted in ON.
In IE (Internet Explorer) there is button for copying whole pages and/or
marked parts of page. And there is an add-in for FireFox.

Apart from that it's really easy to create hyperlinks in ON.
And one can links to files and even embed them.
I use Endnote extensively, and it's doing the referencing job nicely.
ON is really great in so far.
It seems that you just have not detected the way it works and its great
power.

I'm sure that we we might guide you if you let us know what you are
after and what you are missing.
Pls ask with a bit more details.
It would be ideal if there is a way Onenote can be integrated with
Endnote. This seems to be an old question. I wonder if there is any
new development?
I do not see what "integrate" might mean, nor which kind of feature
offered by Evernote would be missing in ON.
I worked for a couple of months with Evernote but made the move to ON in
early 2006 as I found ON to be ways more powerful. ON is the most used
application on my systems.

I assume that additional functionality might have been added to Evernote
in the meantime. Still I do not see what you want to integrate and what
for.

Rainald
 
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Peter

Thanks for the reply. Let me explain the situation further.

I was talking about Endnote, not Evernote. I have never used Evernote, so
can't comment on it. But Endnote is a citation and bibliography management
program and is probably the most widely use by academics for this purpose. I
use Endnote to generate references in a style that a particular publisher
needs, like APA. I also use Endnote to manage my huge collection of pdf files
of journal articles. The problem is, Endnote doesn't have a good note-taking
capability, so I'll have to use MS Word (there is an Endnote Add-in) for
note-taking. But I suppose Word is not designed for note-taking.

Onenote seems to be a powerful note-taking tool, but my little experience
with it so far gives me the impression that it can be improved to better
cater to the academic researchers' note-taking needs. It's excellent in terms
of everyday note-taking, meeting minutes, student note-taking in class, etc.,
but for the last couple of weeks after I installed ON 2007 I haven't figured
out a convenient way to do the following:

When I'm reading a journal article or a book, I need to take down
1/ multiple quotations
2/ multiple summaries of the orginal author's ideas, research results, etc.
3/ multiple inspirations I get from reading this article
Each of these above will need to be referenced to the original article. I
don't want to type the author, year, publication, page etc again and again.
If there is a Endnote Add-in, like in MS Word, one click with do the job. Is
there a convenient way I can do the above in Onenote?

There seem to be a few note-taking programs out there for Master's students,
PhD students, and academics in general. I did a search online, and found the
following to be most relevant to what I need. But ON seems to be a more
powerful general note-taking tool and now that I've bought it, I would like
to make full use of it. Perhaps other academics out there have figured out a
way for themselves? Or as you said, I haven't found the ON function yet?

These programs I mention include, for example, Citation
http://www.citationonline.net/9-home.asp, or ndxCards http://www.ndxcards.com/

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
 
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Rainald Taesler

Thank you so much for your explanations, Peter!

Oh my God, how could I be so silly to make such a bug mistake {siiiiigh}
I'm so sorry. Pls accept my apologies.

For sure I know Endnote! Ad I have it. It's on the ToDo list for being
re-installed (as I recently have re-installed the OS).
I fully agree with your ideas. And IMO it would be really great if it
could be combined with ON.

AFAICS there are no add-ins and/or tools.

Being in the run for an excursion of my faculty, for the moment only
these few remarks.

Rainald
 
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Alceste

I would love this type of integration too.
ON is currently geared, to a large extent, to students taking notes, and not
sufficiently to researchers collecting large quantities of information.
I collect and prepare all the materials for my class lectures on ON, ditto
for my research. For now when I have the reference in endnote, I paste it in
ON, then note in ON that I have it in Endnote. Not the most convenient state
of affairs.
But note that the great addons for MS Word were provided by endnote, not by
microsoft.
 
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fvandrog

This sounds indeed like a great feature. Currently, I also paste the ref.
from Endnote to ON, in addition I link to the PDF (as I do in Endnote). I
have been trying to link directly to an Endnote record, but have not been
successful so far.

I unfortunately do not have access to EndnoteWeb, I would guess this would
make integration easier.
 
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fvandrog

Apparently my institution _does_ have access to EndnoteWeb; copying the url
of a record makes linking very straightforward of course.

I will have to experiment a little more, and am a bit wary of keeping my
libraries only in a web app., but it seems rather convenient.
 
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Peter

Thanks for the answers, folks. I've been doing some intensive explorations
and searches lately. I finally decided to install Zotero. It was indeed a
painful decision to make. I have about 4000 Endnote references and about 2000
pdf files collected and customised over all these years, and I'm so used to
Endnote. I don't want to stop using it if there was a slight chance of
Endnote improving its note-taking function. I bought Onenote recently after
reading all the rave reviews of it, and thought that I could use it to
compensate for the lack of note-taking functions of Endnote. I then realised
(and got it confirmed here) that Onenote is not built for researchers,
despite all the excellent features and powerful potential. In short, as a
middle-aged researcher who has gone through the note cards era and witnessed
the power of technology such as MS Office and Endnote, I'm convinced that
somebody out there has built software tools for researchers like me and I
can't really wait for my favorite tools to improve if there is not much
chance of it happening soon.

Zotero seems to be it, built by researchers for researchers, and free of
charge. I've installed it, and am working on the glitches. As a bibliography
management tool, it is doing most of what EN is doing, and in some respects
better. As a note-taking tool, it's not as powerful as ON in terms of its
convenience of use, multimedia compatibility, and integration with PDA, but
it's doing what I want to do with research note-taking.

Perhaps oneday, when the OneNote team realises that the research community's
needs for note-taking should be taken very seriously and built into a future
version, many researchers like me may come back to embrace OneNote.
 
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jeanne.lenzer

Has anyone worked out a way to integrate Endnote to Onenote? I'm just
beginning to use Onenote for research note taking, and realise that without
linking these ideas, summaries, quotes etc to the original source, the power
of Onenote is considerably compromised. I use Endnote extensively, and it's
doing the referencing job nicely. It would be ideal if there is a way Onenote
can be integrated with Endnote. This seems to be an old question. I wonder if
there is any new development?
Turns out that you can go into EndNote - select your citation and just copyand paste the reference (it should look like this: {Marmot, 2001 #12905} and when you export your OneNote file to Word, you can just click format citations and all citations will appear very nicely.
 
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chemoliuxin

Turns out that you can go into EndNote - select your citation and just copy and paste the reference (it should look like this: {Marmot, 2001 #12905}and when you export your OneNote file to Word, you can just click format citations and all citations will appear very nicely.
 
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bjallardyce

Works for me, I just copy the unformatted reference as described and when Iexport this to Word, Endnote formats them all and adds them into the bibliography.

Just select the reference in the library view and use the control-c keyboard shortcut, then paste into ON. Or, right click on the reference and choosecopy. This will copy the temporary citation as mentioned. You can also right click and choose copy formatted to copy the entire reference as it appears in the references section.
 
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bjallardyce

Works for me, I just copy the unformatted reference as described and whenI export this to Word, Endnote formats them all and adds them into the bibliography.



Just select the reference in the library view and use the control-c keyboard shortcut, then paste into ON. Or, right click on the reference and choose copy. This will copy the temporary citation as mentioned. You can also right click and choose copy formatted to copy the entire reference as it appears in the references section.
Also, if Endnote doesn't format the bibliography when you open in Word, make sure you either have Instant Formatting turned on in the format bibliography window in Word or you can click on the update citations and bibliography button in the Endnote tab
 

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