Say "NO" to Windows Office - Try OpenOffice

[Patriot]

It's just Milly in yet another attempt to put someone or something down. Her
postings are of most value when ignored. Blames it on a bad week end.

She rather resents, in this instance, the recommendation of OO for the
lesser demanding users yet extolls virtue of some other non MS program and
rambles on about some other somewhat obscure OS. It appears she is even hung
up on Office 97 too.

Patriot

Why is this woman telling us about linux and her smartsuite. I couldn't care
less and she should refrain from posting on this newsgroup her experiences of
fringe packages. she knows it well (or ought to know it) that this is a MS
hosted newsgroup dealing with Ms' products.

Um, this is a forum to get assistance with Microsoft Office, not O or
Star Office. If you want to extol their virtues, then post in a place
appropriate to the product being extolled.

This is not one of them.

I use O on my Linux machine (Mandrake 9.x) and find it severely lacking
from my expectations of what an office suite should be. Even my old Lotus
SmartSuite (1999?) does things a LOT better than that program. It has a
LONG way to go for anyone who does more than prepare a simple document or
uses a simple list in a spreadsheet.

And, as I said, the lack of a PIM is a major drawback. Put in a hook to
Evolution (probably not possible now that Novell owns it) and you might
approach 25% of the functionality already existing in Microsoft Office 97.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Patriot asked:

| While the Microsoft public boards may not be the most apropos area to
| put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is no troll. I continually
| recommend and make it available to many occasional, home and light
| office users.
|
| The MS renditions remain quite clutzy and over loaded with junk even
| after years of work. Using financial leverage to replace innovation
| and serving customer needs is the accepted norm.
|
| Over pricing and scant regard for program integrity and security is
| to be expected and the reasons are quite clear when dealing with MS.
| After a few conversations with their professional support people one
| wonders what went wrong.
|
| So while I am forced to use many MS products I am also quite aware of
| the laggardly incorporation of the quality design we should be able
| to expect from the worlds software leader but probably will never get.
|
| OpenOffice is indeed a very legitament alternative to those who wish
| not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler program will serve
| their needs. So in showing consideration for these users it is
| totally in line to indicate there are other options available to them.
|
| Free is a good price for a great compromise program.
|
| Thank you
|
| Patriot
|
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star Office.
||
|| Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs without half the
|| functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may be enough - not for
|| power users. No PIM program, no office automation, etc.
||
|| Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are happy to get assistance
|| with something that actually works as advertised.
||
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, niaxous
|| asked:
||
||| Hi,
|||
||| I know I am off the subject but Windows Office is just soo expensive
||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view or write a presentation.
||| In Europe the simple office version to an end-user is ? 500 ($600).
||| The lisence agreement that companies have to pay per user in their
||| company is way out and companies need to judge, analyse and implent
||| a cheaper solution.
||| There's one alternative which makes live cheaper www.openoffice.org.
|||
||| I downloaded this version and it's just great to use.
||| It is only when you start using this open-sourced office version,
||| you see that those MS Office mechanism you aquired throughout the
||| years
||| are a bit a pain to implement but if you stick to it(like I did), it
||| will eventually avoid paying those bucks to MS.
||| No need to pirate it, it's for FREE!!!!!
||| If you have programming skills, modify it to suit you or your
||| company.
|||
|||
||| I would like to have your comments, if you have tried to use
||| openoffice or why you haven't tried it, yet or why do you continue
||| to pay when you can get the same for free.
|||
||| Niax

 

[Mercury]

It seems you are the one who is attempting to put someone down, while you
are stooging for OpenOffice. It is really not very good, and lacks most of
the features power users need and want.

It's just Milly in yet another attempt to put someone or something down. Her
postings are of most value when ignored. Blames it on a bad week end.

She rather resents, in this instance, the recommendation of OO for the
lesser demanding users yet extolls virtue of some other non MS program and
rambles on about some other somewhat obscure OS. It appears she is even hung
up on Office 97 too.

Patriot

Why is this woman telling us about linux and her smartsuite. I couldn't care
less and she should refrain from posting on this newsgroup her

experiences

of
fringe packages. she knows it well (or ought to know it) that this is a MS
hosted newsgroup dealing with Ms' products.

Um, this is a forum to get assistance with Microsoft Office, not O or
Star Office. If you want to extol their virtues, then post in a place
appropriate to the product being extolled.

This is not one of them.

I use O on my Linux machine (Mandrake 9.x) and find it severely lacking
from my expectations of what an office suite should be. Even my old Lotus
SmartSuite (1999?) does things a LOT better than that program. It has a
LONG way to go for anyone who does more than prepare a simple document or
uses a simple list in a spreadsheet.

And, as I said, the lack of a PIM is a major drawback. Put in a hook to
Evolution (probably not possible now that Novell owns it) and you might
approach 25% of the functionality already existing in Microsoft Office 97.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Patriot asked:

| While the Microsoft public boards may not be the most apropos area to
| put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is no troll. I continually
| recommend and make it available to many occasional, home and light
| office users.
|
| The MS renditions remain quite clutzy and over loaded with junk even
| after years of work. Using financial leverage to replace innovation
| and serving customer needs is the accepted norm.
|
| Over pricing and scant regard for program integrity and security is
| to be expected and the reasons are quite clear when dealing with MS.
| After a few conversations with their professional support people one
| wonders what went wrong.
|
| So while I am forced to use many MS products I am also quite aware of
| the laggardly incorporation of the quality design we should be able
| to expect from the worlds software leader but probably will never get.
|
| OpenOffice is indeed a very legitament alternative to those who wish
| not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler program will serve
| their needs. So in showing consideration for these users it is
| totally in line to indicate there are other options available to them.
|
| Free is a good price for a great compromise program.
|
| Thank you
|
| Patriot
|
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star Office.
||
|| Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs without half the
|| functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may be enough - not for
|| power users. No PIM program, no office automation, etc.
||
|| Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are happy to get assistance
|| with something that actually works as advertised.
||
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, niaxous
|| asked:
||
||| Hi,
|||
||| I know I am off the subject but Windows Office is just soo expensive
||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view or write a presentation.
||| In Europe the simple office version to an end-user is ? 500 ($600).
||| The lisence agreement that companies have to pay per user in their
||| company is way out and companies need to judge, analyse and implent
||| a cheaper solution.
||| There's one alternative which makes live cheaper www.openoffice.org.
|||
||| I downloaded this version and it's just great to use.
||| It is only when you start using this open-sourced office version,
||| you see that those MS Office mechanism you aquired throughout the
||| years
||| are a bit a pain to implement but if you stick to it(like I did), it
||| will eventually avoid paying those bucks to MS.
||| No need to pirate it, it's for FREE!!!!!
||| If you have programming skills, modify it to suit you or your
||| company.
|||
|||
||| I would like to have your comments, if you have tried to use
||| openoffice or why you haven't tried it, yet or why do you continue
||| to pay when you can get the same for free.
|||
||| Niax

 

[Mercury]

It seems you are the one who is attempting to put someone down, while you
are stooging for OpenOffice. It is really not very good, and lacks most of
the features power users need and want.

It's just Milly in yet another attempt to put someone or something down. Her
postings are of most value when ignored. Blames it on a bad week end.

She rather resents, in this instance, the recommendation of OO for the
lesser demanding users yet extolls virtue of some other non MS program and
rambles on about some other somewhat obscure OS. It appears she is even hung
up on Office 97 too.

Patriot

Why is this woman telling us about linux and her smartsuite. I couldn't care
less and she should refrain from posting on this newsgroup her

experiences

of
fringe packages. she knows it well (or ought to know it) that this is a MS
hosted newsgroup dealing with Ms' products.

Um, this is a forum to get assistance with Microsoft Office, not O or
Star Office. If you want to extol their virtues, then post in a place
appropriate to the product being extolled.

This is not one of them.

I use O on my Linux machine (Mandrake 9.x) and find it severely lacking
from my expectations of what an office suite should be. Even my old Lotus
SmartSuite (1999?) does things a LOT better than that program. It has a
LONG way to go for anyone who does more than prepare a simple document or
uses a simple list in a spreadsheet.

And, as I said, the lack of a PIM is a major drawback. Put in a hook to
Evolution (probably not possible now that Novell owns it) and you might
approach 25% of the functionality already existing in Microsoft Office 97.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Patriot asked:

| While the Microsoft public boards may not be the most apropos area to
| put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is no troll. I continually
| recommend and make it available to many occasional, home and light
| office users.
|
| The MS renditions remain quite clutzy and over loaded with junk even
| after years of work. Using financial leverage to replace innovation
| and serving customer needs is the accepted norm.
|
| Over pricing and scant regard for program integrity and security is
| to be expected and the reasons are quite clear when dealing with MS.
| After a few conversations with their professional support people one
| wonders what went wrong.
|
| So while I am forced to use many MS products I am also quite aware of
| the laggardly incorporation of the quality design we should be able
| to expect from the worlds software leader but probably will never get.
|
| OpenOffice is indeed a very legitament alternative to those who wish
| not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler program will serve
| their needs. So in showing consideration for these users it is
| totally in line to indicate there are other options available to them.
|
| Free is a good price for a great compromise program.
|
| Thank you
|
| Patriot
|
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star Office.
||
|| Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs without half the
|| functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may be enough - not for
|| power users. No PIM program, no office automation, etc.
||
|| Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are happy to get assistance
|| with something that actually works as advertised.
||
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, niaxous
|| asked:
||
||| Hi,
|||
||| I know I am off the subject but Windows Office is just soo expensive
||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view or write a presentation.
||| In Europe the simple office version to an end-user is ? 500 ($600).
||| The lisence agreement that companies have to pay per user in their
||| company is way out and companies need to judge, analyse and implent
||| a cheaper solution.
||| There's one alternative which makes live cheaper www.openoffice.org.
|||
||| I downloaded this version and it's just great to use.
||| It is only when you start using this open-sourced office version,
||| you see that those MS Office mechanism you aquired throughout the
||| years
||| are a bit a pain to implement but if you stick to it(like I did), it
||| will eventually avoid paying those bucks to MS.
||| No need to pirate it, it's for FREE!!!!!
||| If you have programming skills, modify it to suit you or your
||| company.
|||
|||
||| I would like to have your comments, if you have tried to use
||| openoffice or why you haven't tried it, yet or why do you continue
||| to pay when you can get the same for free.
|||
||| Niax

 

[Mercury]

It seems you are the one who is attempting to put someone down, while you
are stooging for OpenOffice. It is really not very good, and lacks most of
the features power users need and want.

It's just Milly in yet another attempt to put someone or something down. Her
postings are of most value when ignored. Blames it on a bad week end.

She rather resents, in this instance, the recommendation of OO for the
lesser demanding users yet extolls virtue of some other non MS program and
rambles on about some other somewhat obscure OS. It appears she is even hung
up on Office 97 too.

Patriot

Why is this woman telling us about linux and her smartsuite. I couldn't care
less and she should refrain from posting on this newsgroup her

experiences

of
fringe packages. she knows it well (or ought to know it) that this is a MS
hosted newsgroup dealing with Ms' products.

Um, this is a forum to get assistance with Microsoft Office, not O or
Star Office. If you want to extol their virtues, then post in a place
appropriate to the product being extolled.

This is not one of them.

I use O on my Linux machine (Mandrake 9.x) and find it severely lacking
from my expectations of what an office suite should be. Even my old Lotus
SmartSuite (1999?) does things a LOT better than that program. It has a
LONG way to go for anyone who does more than prepare a simple document or
uses a simple list in a spreadsheet.

And, as I said, the lack of a PIM is a major drawback. Put in a hook to
Evolution (probably not possible now that Novell owns it) and you might
approach 25% of the functionality already existing in Microsoft Office 97.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Patriot asked:

| While the Microsoft public boards may not be the most apropos area to
| put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is no troll. I continually
| recommend and make it available to many occasional, home and light
| office users.
|
| The MS renditions remain quite clutzy and over loaded with junk even
| after years of work. Using financial leverage to replace innovation
| and serving customer needs is the accepted norm.
|
| Over pricing and scant regard for program integrity and security is
| to be expected and the reasons are quite clear when dealing with MS.
| After a few conversations with their professional support people one
| wonders what went wrong.
|
| So while I am forced to use many MS products I am also quite aware of
| the laggardly incorporation of the quality design we should be able
| to expect from the worlds software leader but probably will never get.
|
| OpenOffice is indeed a very legitament alternative to those who wish
| not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler program will serve
| their needs. So in showing consideration for these users it is
| totally in line to indicate there are other options available to them.
|
| Free is a good price for a great compromise program.
|
| Thank you
|
| Patriot
|
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star Office.
||
|| Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs without half the
|| functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may be enough - not for
|| power users. No PIM program, no office automation, etc.
||
|| Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are happy to get assistance
|| with something that actually works as advertised.
||
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, niaxous
|| asked:
||
||| Hi,
|||
||| I know I am off the subject but Windows Office is just soo expensive
||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view or write a presentation.
||| In Europe the simple office version to an end-user is ? 500 ($600).
||| The lisence agreement that companies have to pay per user in their
||| company is way out and companies need to judge, analyse and implent
||| a cheaper solution.
||| There's one alternative which makes live cheaper www.openoffice.org.
|||
||| I downloaded this version and it's just great to use.
||| It is only when you start using this open-sourced office version,
||| you see that those MS Office mechanism you aquired throughout the
||| years
||| are a bit a pain to implement but if you stick to it(like I did), it
||| will eventually avoid paying those bucks to MS.
||| No need to pirate it, it's for FREE!!!!!
||| If you have programming skills, modify it to suit you or your
||| company.
|||
|||
||| I would like to have your comments, if you have tried to use
||| openoffice or why you haven't tried it, yet or why do you continue
||| to pay when you can get the same for free.
|||
||| Niax

 

[Mercury]

It seems you are the one who is attempting to put someone down, while you
are stooging for OpenOffice. It is really not very good, and lacks most of
the features power users need and want.

It's just Milly in yet another attempt to put someone or something down. Her
postings are of most value when ignored. Blames it on a bad week end.

She rather resents, in this instance, the recommendation of OO for the
lesser demanding users yet extolls virtue of some other non MS program and
rambles on about some other somewhat obscure OS. It appears she is even hung
up on Office 97 too.

Patriot

Why is this woman telling us about linux and her smartsuite. I couldn't care
less and she should refrain from posting on this newsgroup her

experiences

of
fringe packages. she knows it well (or ought to know it) that this is a MS
hosted newsgroup dealing with Ms' products.

Um, this is a forum to get assistance with Microsoft Office, not O or
Star Office. If you want to extol their virtues, then post in a place
appropriate to the product being extolled.

This is not one of them.

I use O on my Linux machine (Mandrake 9.x) and find it severely lacking
from my expectations of what an office suite should be. Even my old Lotus
SmartSuite (1999?) does things a LOT better than that program. It has a
LONG way to go for anyone who does more than prepare a simple document or
uses a simple list in a spreadsheet.

And, as I said, the lack of a PIM is a major drawback. Put in a hook to
Evolution (probably not possible now that Novell owns it) and you might
approach 25% of the functionality already existing in Microsoft Office 97.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Patriot asked:

| While the Microsoft public boards may not be the most apropos area to
| put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is no troll. I continually
| recommend and make it available to many occasional, home and light
| office users.
|
| The MS renditions remain quite clutzy and over loaded with junk even
| after years of work. Using financial leverage to replace innovation
| and serving customer needs is the accepted norm.
|
| Over pricing and scant regard for program integrity and security is
| to be expected and the reasons are quite clear when dealing with MS.
| After a few conversations with their professional support people one
| wonders what went wrong.
|
| So while I am forced to use many MS products I am also quite aware of
| the laggardly incorporation of the quality design we should be able
| to expect from the worlds software leader but probably will never get.
|
| OpenOffice is indeed a very legitament alternative to those who wish
| not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler program will serve
| their needs. So in showing consideration for these users it is
| totally in line to indicate there are other options available to them.
|
| Free is a good price for a great compromise program.
|
| Thank you
|
| Patriot
|
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star Office.
||
|| Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs without half the
|| functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may be enough - not for
|| power users. No PIM program, no office automation, etc.
||
|| Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are happy to get assistance
|| with something that actually works as advertised.
||
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, niaxous
|| asked:
||
||| Hi,
|||
||| I know I am off the subject but Windows Office is just soo expensive
||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view or write a presentation.
||| In Europe the simple office version to an end-user is ? 500 ($600).
||| The lisence agreement that companies have to pay per user in their
||| company is way out and companies need to judge, analyse and implent
||| a cheaper solution.
||| There's one alternative which makes live cheaper www.openoffice.org.
|||
||| I downloaded this version and it's just great to use.
||| It is only when you start using this open-sourced office version,
||| you see that those MS Office mechanism you aquired throughout the
||| years
||| are a bit a pain to implement but if you stick to it(like I did), it
||| will eventually avoid paying those bucks to MS.
||| No need to pirate it, it's for FREE!!!!!
||| If you have programming skills, modify it to suit you or your
||| company.
|||
|||
||| I would like to have your comments, if you have tried to use
||| openoffice or why you haven't tried it, yet or why do you continue
||| to pay when you can get the same for free.
|||
||| Niax

 

[Patriot]

Sorry, OO is not being "stooged" for power users but for those who need
basic office tools at a price that is just plain okay. I thoroughly support
helping someone who for whatever reason does not wish to or can not obtain
and utilized the high powered and gawdy MS creations.

Making these priced right programs available to those who would use them is
only common decency and will not cause lay offs at MS or create any
financial havoc to their organization.

When I recently came on the scene this Milly person was making an issue of a
person attempting to assist by offering the info and then belittleing the
merits of OO.

Perhaps she needs another weekend that isn't quite so "bad" precluding
propensity to mouth off at a person's attempt to help someone else.

We realize this is an MS topic board and accord it all the immense awe,
adoration and respectability it demands. However, I do not believe a boundry
is drawn which precludes a simple statement offering an alternative to
someone.

Thank you

Patriot

It seems you are the one who is attempting to put someone down, while you
are stooging for OpenOffice. It is really not very good, and lacks most of
the features power users need and want.

It's just Milly in yet another attempt to put someone or something down. Her
postings are of most value when ignored. Blames it on a bad week end.

She rather resents, in this instance, the recommendation of OO for the
lesser demanding users yet extolls virtue of some other non MS program and
rambles on about some other somewhat obscure OS. It appears she is even hung
up on Office 97 too.

Patriot


couldn't
care experiences a
MS

O

or

has

a document
or

hook

to

Evolution (probably not possible now that Novell owns it) and you might
approach 25% of the functionality already existing in Microsoft

Office
97.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Patriot asked:

| While the Microsoft public boards may not be the most apropos area to
| put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is no troll. I continually
| recommend and make it available to many occasional, home and light
| office users.
|
| The MS renditions remain quite clutzy and over loaded with junk even
| after years of work. Using financial leverage to replace innovation
| and serving customer needs is the accepted norm.
|
| Over pricing and scant regard for program integrity and security is
| to be expected and the reasons are quite clear when dealing with MS.
| After a few conversations with their professional support people one
| wonders what went wrong.
|
| So while I am forced to use many MS products I am also quite aware of
| the laggardly incorporation of the quality design we should be able
| to expect from the worlds software leader but probably will never get.
|
| OpenOffice is indeed a very legitament alternative to those who wish
| not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler program will serve
| their needs. So in showing consideration for these users it is
| totally in line to indicate there are other options available to them.
|
| Free is a good price for a great compromise program.
|
| Thank you
|
| Patriot
|
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star Office.
||
|| Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs without half the
|| functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may be enough - not for
|| power users. No PIM program, no office automation, etc.
||
|| Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are happy to get assistance
|| with something that actually works as advertised.
||
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, niaxous
|| asked:
||
||| Hi,
|||
||| I know I am off the subject but Windows Office is just soo expensive
||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view or write a presentation.
||| In Europe the simple office version to an end-user is ? 500 ($600).
||| The lisence agreement that companies have to pay per user in their
||| company is way out and companies need to judge, analyse and implent
||| a cheaper solution.
||| There's one alternative which makes live cheaper www.openoffice.org.
|||
||| I downloaded this version and it's just great to use.
||| It is only when you start using this open-sourced office version,
||| you see that those MS Office mechanism you aquired throughout the
||| years
||| are a bit a pain to implement but if you stick to it(like I

did),

it

 

[Patriot]

Sorry, OO is not being "stooged" for power users but for those who need
basic office tools at a price that is just plain okay. I thoroughly support
helping someone who for whatever reason does not wish to or can not obtain
and utilized the high powered and gawdy MS creations.

Making these priced right programs available to those who would use them is
only common decency and will not cause lay offs at MS or create any
financial havoc to their organization.

When I recently came on the scene this Milly person was making an issue of a
person attempting to assist by offering the info and then belittleing the
merits of OO.

Perhaps she needs another weekend that isn't quite so "bad" precluding
propensity to mouth off at a person's attempt to help someone else.

We realize this is an MS topic board and accord it all the immense awe,
adoration and respectability it demands. However, I do not believe a boundry
is drawn which precludes a simple statement offering an alternative to
someone.

Thank you

Patriot

It seems you are the one who is attempting to put someone down, while you
are stooging for OpenOffice. It is really not very good, and lacks most of
the features power users need and want.

It's just Milly in yet another attempt to put someone or something down. Her
postings are of most value when ignored. Blames it on a bad week end.

She rather resents, in this instance, the recommendation of OO for the
lesser demanding users yet extolls virtue of some other non MS program and
rambles on about some other somewhat obscure OS. It appears she is even hung
up on Office 97 too.

Patriot


couldn't
care experiences a
MS

O

or

has

a document
or

hook

to

Evolution (probably not possible now that Novell owns it) and you might
approach 25% of the functionality already existing in Microsoft

Office
97.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Patriot asked:

| While the Microsoft public boards may not be the most apropos area to
| put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is no troll. I continually
| recommend and make it available to many occasional, home and light
| office users.
|
| The MS renditions remain quite clutzy and over loaded with junk even
| after years of work. Using financial leverage to replace innovation
| and serving customer needs is the accepted norm.
|
| Over pricing and scant regard for program integrity and security is
| to be expected and the reasons are quite clear when dealing with MS.
| After a few conversations with their professional support people one
| wonders what went wrong.
|
| So while I am forced to use many MS products I am also quite aware of
| the laggardly incorporation of the quality design we should be able
| to expect from the worlds software leader but probably will never get.
|
| OpenOffice is indeed a very legitament alternative to those who wish
| not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler program will serve
| their needs. So in showing consideration for these users it is
| totally in line to indicate there are other options available to them.
|
| Free is a good price for a great compromise program.
|
| Thank you
|
| Patriot
|
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star Office.
||
|| Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs without half the
|| functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may be enough - not for
|| power users. No PIM program, no office automation, etc.
||
|| Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are happy to get assistance
|| with something that actually works as advertised.
||
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, niaxous
|| asked:
||
||| Hi,
|||
||| I know I am off the subject but Windows Office is just soo expensive
||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view or write a presentation.
||| In Europe the simple office version to an end-user is ? 500 ($600).
||| The lisence agreement that companies have to pay per user in their
||| company is way out and companies need to judge, analyse and implent
||| a cheaper solution.
||| There's one alternative which makes live cheaper www.openoffice.org.
|||
||| I downloaded this version and it's just great to use.
||| It is only when you start using this open-sourced office version,
||| you see that those MS Office mechanism you aquired throughout the
||| years
||| are a bit a pain to implement but if you stick to it(like I

did),

it

 

[Patriot]

Sorry, OO is not being "stooged" for power users but for those who need
basic office tools at a price that is just plain okay. I thoroughly support
helping someone who for whatever reason does not wish to or can not obtain
and utilized the high powered and gawdy MS creations.

Making these priced right programs available to those who would use them is
only common decency and will not cause lay offs at MS or create any
financial havoc to their organization.

When I recently came on the scene this Milly person was making an issue of a
person attempting to assist by offering the info and then belittleing the
merits of OO.

Perhaps she needs another weekend that isn't quite so "bad" precluding
propensity to mouth off at a person's attempt to help someone else.

We realize this is an MS topic board and accord it all the immense awe,
adoration and respectability it demands. However, I do not believe a boundry
is drawn which precludes a simple statement offering an alternative to
someone.

Thank you

Patriot

It seems you are the one who is attempting to put someone down, while you
are stooging for OpenOffice. It is really not very good, and lacks most of
the features power users need and want.

It's just Milly in yet another attempt to put someone or something down. Her
postings are of most value when ignored. Blames it on a bad week end.

She rather resents, in this instance, the recommendation of OO for the
lesser demanding users yet extolls virtue of some other non MS program and
rambles on about some other somewhat obscure OS. It appears she is even hung
up on Office 97 too.

Patriot


couldn't
care experiences a
MS

O

or

has

a document
or

hook

to

Evolution (probably not possible now that Novell owns it) and you might
approach 25% of the functionality already existing in Microsoft

Office
97.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Patriot asked:

| While the Microsoft public boards may not be the most apropos area to
| put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is no troll. I continually
| recommend and make it available to many occasional, home and light
| office users.
|
| The MS renditions remain quite clutzy and over loaded with junk even
| after years of work. Using financial leverage to replace innovation
| and serving customer needs is the accepted norm.
|
| Over pricing and scant regard for program integrity and security is
| to be expected and the reasons are quite clear when dealing with MS.
| After a few conversations with their professional support people one
| wonders what went wrong.
|
| So while I am forced to use many MS products I am also quite aware of
| the laggardly incorporation of the quality design we should be able
| to expect from the worlds software leader but probably will never get.
|
| OpenOffice is indeed a very legitament alternative to those who wish
| not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler program will serve
| their needs. So in showing consideration for these users it is
| totally in line to indicate there are other options available to them.
|
| Free is a good price for a great compromise program.
|
| Thank you
|
| Patriot
|
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star Office.
||
|| Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs without half the
|| functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may be enough - not for
|| power users. No PIM program, no office automation, etc.
||
|| Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are happy to get assistance
|| with something that actually works as advertised.
||
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, niaxous
|| asked:
||
||| Hi,
|||
||| I know I am off the subject but Windows Office is just soo expensive
||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view or write a presentation.
||| In Europe the simple office version to an end-user is ? 500 ($600).
||| The lisence agreement that companies have to pay per user in their
||| company is way out and companies need to judge, analyse and implent
||| a cheaper solution.
||| There's one alternative which makes live cheaper www.openoffice.org.
|||
||| I downloaded this version and it's just great to use.
||| It is only when you start using this open-sourced office version,
||| you see that those MS Office mechanism you aquired throughout the
||| years
||| are a bit a pain to implement but if you stick to it(like I

did),

it

 

[Patriot]

Sorry, OO is not being "stooged" for power users but for those who need
basic office tools at a price that is just plain okay. I thoroughly support
helping someone who for whatever reason does not wish to or can not obtain
and utilized the high powered and gawdy MS creations.

Making these priced right programs available to those who would use them is
only common decency and will not cause lay offs at MS or create any
financial havoc to their organization.

When I recently came on the scene this Milly person was making an issue of a
person attempting to assist by offering the info and then belittleing the
merits of OO.

Perhaps she needs another weekend that isn't quite so "bad" precluding
propensity to mouth off at a person's attempt to help someone else.

We realize this is an MS topic board and accord it all the immense awe,
adoration and respectability it demands. However, I do not believe a boundry
is drawn which precludes a simple statement offering an alternative to
someone.

Thank you

Patriot

It seems you are the one who is attempting to put someone down, while you
are stooging for OpenOffice. It is really not very good, and lacks most of
the features power users need and want.

It's just Milly in yet another attempt to put someone or something down. Her
postings are of most value when ignored. Blames it on a bad week end.

She rather resents, in this instance, the recommendation of OO for the
lesser demanding users yet extolls virtue of some other non MS program and
rambles on about some other somewhat obscure OS. It appears she is even hung
up on Office 97 too.

Patriot


couldn't
care experiences a
MS

O

or

has

a document
or

hook

to

Evolution (probably not possible now that Novell owns it) and you might
approach 25% of the functionality already existing in Microsoft

Office
97.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Patriot asked:

| While the Microsoft public boards may not be the most apropos area to
| put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is no troll. I continually
| recommend and make it available to many occasional, home and light
| office users.
|
| The MS renditions remain quite clutzy and over loaded with junk even
| after years of work. Using financial leverage to replace innovation
| and serving customer needs is the accepted norm.
|
| Over pricing and scant regard for program integrity and security is
| to be expected and the reasons are quite clear when dealing with MS.
| After a few conversations with their professional support people one
| wonders what went wrong.
|
| So while I am forced to use many MS products I am also quite aware of
| the laggardly incorporation of the quality design we should be able
| to expect from the worlds software leader but probably will never get.
|
| OpenOffice is indeed a very legitament alternative to those who wish
| not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler program will serve
| their needs. So in showing consideration for these users it is
| totally in line to indicate there are other options available to them.
|
| Free is a good price for a great compromise program.
|
| Thank you
|
| Patriot
|
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star Office.
||
|| Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs without half the
|| functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may be enough - not for
|| power users. No PIM program, no office automation, etc.
||
|| Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are happy to get assistance
|| with something that actually works as advertised.
||
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, niaxous
|| asked:
||
||| Hi,
|||
||| I know I am off the subject but Windows Office is just soo expensive
||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view or write a presentation.
||| In Europe the simple office version to an end-user is ? 500 ($600).
||| The lisence agreement that companies have to pay per user in their
||| company is way out and companies need to judge, analyse and implent
||| a cheaper solution.
||| There's one alternative which makes live cheaper www.openoffice.org.
|||
||| I downloaded this version and it's just great to use.
||| It is only when you start using this open-sourced office version,
||| you see that those MS Office mechanism you aquired throughout the
||| years
||| are a bit a pain to implement but if you stick to it(like I

did),

it

 

[Chris Schatte]

Apparently someone from Microsoft if forcing you to use
their Office products. They don't force us to. We tried
OO and Star Office for our small business and home use
and found them very lacking to say the least. OO and Star
Office are marketed against Office as an alternative, and
the average daily user power or not would have to totally
re-train themselves in usage. Cost ratio vs Office,
granted, it is more but, the range of products aptly
applied to each user more than makes up the difference.
I would use my old (oem)copy of Lotus Smart Suite 97
again before either OO or Star Office....

-----Original Message-----
Sorry, OO is not being "stooged" for power users but for those who need
basic office tools at a price that is just plain okay. I thoroughly support
helping someone who for whatever reason does not wish to or can not obtain
and utilized the high powered and gawdy MS creations.

Making these priced right programs available to those who would use them is
only common decency and will not cause lay offs at MS or create any
financial havoc to their organization.

When I recently came on the scene this Milly person was making an issue of a
person attempting to assist by offering the info and then belittleing the
merits of OO.

Perhaps she needs another weekend that isn't quite so "bad" precluding
propensity to mouth off at a person's attempt to help someone else.

We realize this is an MS topic board and accord it all the immense awe,
adoration and respectability it demands. However, I do not believe a boundry
is drawn which precludes a simple statement offering an alternative to
someone.

Thank you

Patriot

It seems you are the one who is attempting to put someone down, while you
are stooging for OpenOffice. It is really not very good, and lacks most of
the features power users need and want.


someone or something down.
Her

other non MS program
and

appears she is even
hung

smartsuite. I
couldn't

newsgroup her
experiences

know it) that this is
a Microsoft Office, not
O

or

virtues, then post in a
place that program. It
has

a

prepare a simple
document drawback. Put in a
hook

to owns it) and you
might

existing in Microsoft
Office

97.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all

mail sent to my
personal

account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no

answer, Patriot
asked:

| While the Microsoft public boards may not be

the most apropos area
to

| put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is

no troll. I
continually loaded with junk
even to replace
innovation integrity and security
is when dealing with
MS. professional support people
one

am also quite aware
of

design we should be
able

probably will never
get.

alternative to those who
wish

| not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler program will serve
| their needs. So in showing consideration for these users it is
| totally in line to indicate there are other

options available to
them.

|
| Free is a good price for a great compromise program.
|
| Thank you
|
| Patriot
|
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star Office.
||
|| Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs without half the
|| functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may be enough - not for
|| power users. No PIM program, no office automation, etc.
||
|| Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are

happy to get
assistance

|| with something that actually works as advertised.
||
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the

discussion intact. Due
to

|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, niaxous
|| asked:
||
||| Hi,
|||
||| I know I am off the subject but Windows

Office is just soo
expensive

||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view

or write a
presentation.

||| In Europe the simple office version to an

end-user is ? 500
($600).

||| The lisence agreement that companies have to

pay per user in
their

judge, analyse and
implent cheaper
www.openoffice.org.

sourced office
version, aquired throughout
the stick to it(like I
did),

it

or why do you
continue

.

 

[Chris Schatte]

Apparently someone from Microsoft if forcing you to use
their Office products. They don't force us to. We tried
OO and Star Office for our small business and home use
and found them very lacking to say the least. OO and Star
Office are marketed against Office as an alternative, and
the average daily user power or not would have to totally
re-train themselves in usage. Cost ratio vs Office,
granted, it is more but, the range of products aptly
applied to each user more than makes up the difference.
I would use my old (oem)copy of Lotus Smart Suite 97
again before either OO or Star Office....

-----Original Message-----
Sorry, OO is not being "stooged" for power users but for those who need
basic office tools at a price that is just plain okay. I thoroughly support
helping someone who for whatever reason does not wish to or can not obtain
and utilized the high powered and gawdy MS creations.

Making these priced right programs available to those who would use them is
only common decency and will not cause lay offs at MS or create any
financial havoc to their organization.

When I recently came on the scene this Milly person was making an issue of a
person attempting to assist by offering the info and then belittleing the
merits of OO.

Perhaps she needs another weekend that isn't quite so "bad" precluding
propensity to mouth off at a person's attempt to help someone else.

We realize this is an MS topic board and accord it all the immense awe,
adoration and respectability it demands. However, I do not believe a boundry
is drawn which precludes a simple statement offering an alternative to
someone.

Thank you

Patriot

It seems you are the one who is attempting to put someone down, while you
are stooging for OpenOffice. It is really not very good, and lacks most of
the features power users need and want.


someone or something down.
Her

other non MS program
and

appears she is even
hung

smartsuite. I
couldn't

newsgroup her
experiences

know it) that this is
a Microsoft Office, not
O

or

virtues, then post in a
place that program. It
has

a

prepare a simple
document drawback. Put in a
hook

to owns it) and you
might

existing in Microsoft
Office

97.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all

mail sent to my
personal

account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no

answer, Patriot
asked:

| While the Microsoft public boards may not be

the most apropos area
to

| put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is

no troll. I
continually loaded with junk
even to replace
innovation integrity and security
is when dealing with
MS. professional support people
one

am also quite aware
of

design we should be
able

probably will never
get.

alternative to those who
wish

| not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler program will serve
| their needs. So in showing consideration for these users it is
| totally in line to indicate there are other

options available to
them.

|
| Free is a good price for a great compromise program.
|
| Thank you
|
| Patriot
|
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star Office.
||
|| Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs without half the
|| functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may be enough - not for
|| power users. No PIM program, no office automation, etc.
||
|| Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are

happy to get
assistance

|| with something that actually works as advertised.
||
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the

discussion intact. Due
to

|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, niaxous
|| asked:
||
||| Hi,
|||
||| I know I am off the subject but Windows

Office is just soo
expensive

||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view

or write a
presentation.

||| In Europe the simple office version to an

end-user is ? 500
($600).

||| The lisence agreement that companies have to

pay per user in
their

judge, analyse and
implent cheaper
www.openoffice.org.

sourced office
version, aquired throughout
the stick to it(like I
did),

it

or why do you
continue

.

 

[Chris Schatte]

Apparently someone from Microsoft if forcing you to use
their Office products. They don't force us to. We tried
OO and Star Office for our small business and home use
and found them very lacking to say the least. OO and Star
Office are marketed against Office as an alternative, and
the average daily user power or not would have to totally
re-train themselves in usage. Cost ratio vs Office,
granted, it is more but, the range of products aptly
applied to each user more than makes up the difference.
I would use my old (oem)copy of Lotus Smart Suite 97
again before either OO or Star Office....

-----Original Message-----
Sorry, OO is not being "stooged" for power users but for those who need
basic office tools at a price that is just plain okay. I thoroughly support
helping someone who for whatever reason does not wish to or can not obtain
and utilized the high powered and gawdy MS creations.

Making these priced right programs available to those who would use them is
only common decency and will not cause lay offs at MS or create any
financial havoc to their organization.

When I recently came on the scene this Milly person was making an issue of a
person attempting to assist by offering the info and then belittleing the
merits of OO.

Perhaps she needs another weekend that isn't quite so "bad" precluding
propensity to mouth off at a person's attempt to help someone else.

We realize this is an MS topic board and accord it all the immense awe,
adoration and respectability it demands. However, I do not believe a boundry
is drawn which precludes a simple statement offering an alternative to
someone.

Thank you

Patriot

It seems you are the one who is attempting to put someone down, while you
are stooging for OpenOffice. It is really not very good, and lacks most of
the features power users need and want.


someone or something down.
Her

other non MS program
and

appears she is even
hung

smartsuite. I
couldn't

newsgroup her
experiences

know it) that this is
a Microsoft Office, not
O

or

virtues, then post in a
place that program. It
has

a

prepare a simple
document drawback. Put in a
hook

to owns it) and you
might

existing in Microsoft
Office

97.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all

mail sent to my
personal

account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no

answer, Patriot
asked:

| While the Microsoft public boards may not be

the most apropos area
to

| put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is

no troll. I
continually loaded with junk
even to replace
innovation integrity and security
is when dealing with
MS. professional support people
one

am also quite aware
of

design we should be
able

probably will never
get.

alternative to those who
wish

| not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler program will serve
| their needs. So in showing consideration for these users it is
| totally in line to indicate there are other

options available to
them.

|
| Free is a good price for a great compromise program.
|
| Thank you
|
| Patriot
|
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star Office.
||
|| Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs without half the
|| functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may be enough - not for
|| power users. No PIM program, no office automation, etc.
||
|| Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are

happy to get
assistance

|| with something that actually works as advertised.
||
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the

discussion intact. Due
to

|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, niaxous
|| asked:
||
||| Hi,
|||
||| I know I am off the subject but Windows

Office is just soo
expensive

||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view

or write a
presentation.

||| In Europe the simple office version to an

end-user is ? 500
($600).

||| The lisence agreement that companies have to

pay per user in
their

judge, analyse and
implent cheaper
www.openoffice.org.

sourced office
version, aquired throughout
the stick to it(like I
did),

it

or why do you
continue

.

 

[Chris Schatte]

Apparently someone from Microsoft if forcing you to use
their Office products. They don't force us to. We tried
OO and Star Office for our small business and home use
and found them very lacking to say the least. OO and Star
Office are marketed against Office as an alternative, and
the average daily user power or not would have to totally
re-train themselves in usage. Cost ratio vs Office,
granted, it is more but, the range of products aptly
applied to each user more than makes up the difference.
I would use my old (oem)copy of Lotus Smart Suite 97
again before either OO or Star Office....

-----Original Message-----
Sorry, OO is not being "stooged" for power users but for those who need
basic office tools at a price that is just plain okay. I thoroughly support
helping someone who for whatever reason does not wish to or can not obtain
and utilized the high powered and gawdy MS creations.

Making these priced right programs available to those who would use them is
only common decency and will not cause lay offs at MS or create any
financial havoc to their organization.

When I recently came on the scene this Milly person was making an issue of a
person attempting to assist by offering the info and then belittleing the
merits of OO.

Perhaps she needs another weekend that isn't quite so "bad" precluding
propensity to mouth off at a person's attempt to help someone else.

We realize this is an MS topic board and accord it all the immense awe,
adoration and respectability it demands. However, I do not believe a boundry
is drawn which precludes a simple statement offering an alternative to
someone.

Thank you

Patriot

It seems you are the one who is attempting to put someone down, while you
are stooging for OpenOffice. It is really not very good, and lacks most of
the features power users need and want.


someone or something down.
Her

other non MS program
and

appears she is even
hung

smartsuite. I
couldn't

newsgroup her
experiences

know it) that this is
a Microsoft Office, not
O

or

virtues, then post in a
place that program. It
has

a

prepare a simple
document drawback. Put in a
hook

to owns it) and you
might

existing in Microsoft
Office

97.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all

mail sent to my
personal

account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no

answer, Patriot
asked:

| While the Microsoft public boards may not be

the most apropos area
to

| put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is

no troll. I
continually loaded with junk
even to replace
innovation integrity and security
is when dealing with
MS. professional support people
one

am also quite aware
of

design we should be
able

probably will never
get.

alternative to those who
wish

| not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler program will serve
| their needs. So in showing consideration for these users it is
| totally in line to indicate there are other

options available to
them.

|
| Free is a good price for a great compromise program.
|
| Thank you
|
| Patriot
|
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star Office.
||
|| Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs without half the
|| functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may be enough - not for
|| power users. No PIM program, no office automation, etc.
||
|| Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are

happy to get
assistance

|| with something that actually works as advertised.
||
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the

discussion intact. Due
to

|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, niaxous
|| asked:
||
||| Hi,
|||
||| I know I am off the subject but Windows

Office is just soo
expensive

||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view

or write a
presentation.

||| In Europe the simple office version to an

end-user is ? 500
($600).

||| The lisence agreement that companies have to

pay per user in
their

judge, analyse and
implent cheaper
www.openoffice.org.

sourced office
version, aquired throughout
the stick to it(like I
did),

it

or why do you
continue

.

 

[Patriot]

It appears we are now running into a learning curve thing with some folks.

Those I help love OO for it's simplicity and of course the price. I have
never used it nor had it loaded on a machine.

Our corporate interaction has us pretty well locked in on using MS products
because they are the same for all practical purposes in the countries that
can legally import and use them.

We do use Corel WordPerfect for the more intricate interoffice word
processing tasks and especially in instances where special formatting is
imperative and/or professional printing will be used.

So far the folks I point toward OO that can read and write and are somewhat
computer literate have no problems and are grateful.

Come on and put your heart into it. I just know you can do it with some
effort and determination.

Thank you

Patriot


Apparently someone from Microsoft if forcing you to use
their Office products. They don't force us to. We tried
OO and Star Office for our small business and home use
and found them very lacking to say the least. OO and Star
Office are marketed against Office as an alternative, and
the average daily user power or not would have to totally
re-train themselves in usage. Cost ratio vs Office,
granted, it is more but, the range of products aptly
applied to each user more than makes up the difference.
I would use my old (oem)copy of Lotus Smart Suite 97
again before either OO or Star Office....

-----Original Message-----
Sorry, OO is not being "stooged" for power users but for those who need
basic office tools at a price that is just plain okay. I thoroughly support
helping someone who for whatever reason does not wish to or can not obtain
and utilized the high powered and gawdy MS creations.

Making these priced right programs available to those who would use them is
only common decency and will not cause lay offs at MS or create any
financial havoc to their organization.

When I recently came on the scene this Milly person was making an issue of a
person attempting to assist by offering the info and then belittleing the
merits of OO.

Perhaps she needs another weekend that isn't quite so "bad" precluding
propensity to mouth off at a person's attempt to help someone else.

We realize this is an MS topic board and accord it all the immense awe,
adoration and respectability it demands. However, I do not believe a boundry
is drawn which precludes a simple statement offering an alternative to
someone.

Thank you

Patriot

It seems you are the one who is attempting to put someone down, while you
are stooging for OpenOffice. It is really not very good, and lacks most of
the features power users need and want.


someone or something down.
Her

other non MS program
and

appears she is even
hung

smartsuite. I
couldn't

newsgroup her
experiences

know it) that this is
a Microsoft Office, not
O

or

virtues, then post in a
place that program. It
has

a

prepare a simple
document drawback. Put in a
hook

to owns it) and you
might

existing in Microsoft
Office

97.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all

mail sent to my
personal

account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no

answer, Patriot
asked:

| While the Microsoft public boards may not be

the most apropos area
to

| put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is

no troll. I
continually loaded with junk
even to replace
innovation integrity and security
is when dealing with
MS. professional support people
one

am also quite aware
of

design we should be
able

probably will never
get.

alternative to those who
wish

| not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler program will serve
| their needs. So in showing consideration for these users it is
| totally in line to indicate there are other

options available to
them.

|
| Free is a good price for a great compromise program.
|
| Thank you
|
| Patriot
|
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star Office.
||
|| Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs without half the
|| functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may be enough - not for
|| power users. No PIM program, no office automation, etc.
||
|| Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are

happy to get
assistance

|| with something that actually works as advertised.
||
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the

discussion intact. Due
to

|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, niaxous
|| asked:
||
||| Hi,
|||
||| I know I am off the subject but Windows

Office is just soo
expensive

||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view

or write a
presentation.

||| In Europe the simple office version to an

end-user is ? 500
($600).

||| The lisence agreement that companies have to

pay per user in
their

judge, analyse and
implent cheaper
www.openoffice.org.

sourced office
version, aquired throughout
the stick to it(like I
did),

it

or why do you
continue

.

 

[Patriot]

It appears we are now running into a learning curve thing with some folks.

Those I help love OO for it's simplicity and of course the price. I have
never used it nor had it loaded on a machine.

Our corporate interaction has us pretty well locked in on using MS products
because they are the same for all practical purposes in the countries that
can legally import and use them.

We do use Corel WordPerfect for the more intricate interoffice word
processing tasks and especially in instances where special formatting is
imperative and/or professional printing will be used.

So far the folks I point toward OO that can read and write and are somewhat
computer literate have no problems and are grateful.

Come on and put your heart into it. I just know you can do it with some
effort and determination.

Thank you

Patriot


Apparently someone from Microsoft if forcing you to use
their Office products. They don't force us to. We tried
OO and Star Office for our small business and home use
and found them very lacking to say the least. OO and Star
Office are marketed against Office as an alternative, and
the average daily user power or not would have to totally
re-train themselves in usage. Cost ratio vs Office,
granted, it is more but, the range of products aptly
applied to each user more than makes up the difference.
I would use my old (oem)copy of Lotus Smart Suite 97
again before either OO or Star Office....

-----Original Message-----
Sorry, OO is not being "stooged" for power users but for those who need
basic office tools at a price that is just plain okay. I thoroughly support
helping someone who for whatever reason does not wish to or can not obtain
and utilized the high powered and gawdy MS creations.

Making these priced right programs available to those who would use them is
only common decency and will not cause lay offs at MS or create any
financial havoc to their organization.

When I recently came on the scene this Milly person was making an issue of a
person attempting to assist by offering the info and then belittleing the
merits of OO.

Perhaps she needs another weekend that isn't quite so "bad" precluding
propensity to mouth off at a person's attempt to help someone else.

We realize this is an MS topic board and accord it all the immense awe,
adoration and respectability it demands. However, I do not believe a boundry
is drawn which precludes a simple statement offering an alternative to
someone.

Thank you

Patriot

It seems you are the one who is attempting to put someone down, while you
are stooging for OpenOffice. It is really not very good, and lacks most of
the features power users need and want.


someone or something down.
Her

other non MS program
and

appears she is even
hung

smartsuite. I
couldn't

newsgroup her
experiences

know it) that this is
a Microsoft Office, not
O

or

virtues, then post in a
place that program. It
has

a

prepare a simple
document drawback. Put in a
hook

to owns it) and you
might

existing in Microsoft
Office

97.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all

mail sent to my
personal

account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no

answer, Patriot
asked:

| While the Microsoft public boards may not be

the most apropos area
to

| put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is

no troll. I
continually loaded with junk
even to replace
innovation integrity and security
is when dealing with
MS. professional support people
one

am also quite aware
of

design we should be
able

probably will never
get.

alternative to those who
wish

| not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler program will serve
| their needs. So in showing consideration for these users it is
| totally in line to indicate there are other

options available to
them.

|
| Free is a good price for a great compromise program.
|
| Thank you
|
| Patriot
|
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star Office.
||
|| Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs without half the
|| functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may be enough - not for
|| power users. No PIM program, no office automation, etc.
||
|| Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are

happy to get
assistance

|| with something that actually works as advertised.
||
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the

discussion intact. Due
to

|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, niaxous
|| asked:
||
||| Hi,
|||
||| I know I am off the subject but Windows

Office is just soo
expensive

||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view

or write a
presentation.

||| In Europe the simple office version to an

end-user is ? 500
($600).

||| The lisence agreement that companies have to

pay per user in
their

judge, analyse and
implent cheaper
www.openoffice.org.

sourced office
version, aquired throughout
the stick to it(like I
did),

it

or why do you
continue

.

 

[Patriot]

It appears we are now running into a learning curve thing with some folks.

Those I help love OO for it's simplicity and of course the price. I have
never used it nor had it loaded on a machine.

Our corporate interaction has us pretty well locked in on using MS products
because they are the same for all practical purposes in the countries that
can legally import and use them.

We do use Corel WordPerfect for the more intricate interoffice word
processing tasks and especially in instances where special formatting is
imperative and/or professional printing will be used.

So far the folks I point toward OO that can read and write and are somewhat
computer literate have no problems and are grateful.

Come on and put your heart into it. I just know you can do it with some
effort and determination.

Thank you

Patriot


Apparently someone from Microsoft if forcing you to use
their Office products. They don't force us to. We tried
OO and Star Office for our small business and home use
and found them very lacking to say the least. OO and Star
Office are marketed against Office as an alternative, and
the average daily user power or not would have to totally
re-train themselves in usage. Cost ratio vs Office,
granted, it is more but, the range of products aptly
applied to each user more than makes up the difference.
I would use my old (oem)copy of Lotus Smart Suite 97
again before either OO or Star Office....

-----Original Message-----
Sorry, OO is not being "stooged" for power users but for those who need
basic office tools at a price that is just plain okay. I thoroughly support
helping someone who for whatever reason does not wish to or can not obtain
and utilized the high powered and gawdy MS creations.

Making these priced right programs available to those who would use them is
only common decency and will not cause lay offs at MS or create any
financial havoc to their organization.

When I recently came on the scene this Milly person was making an issue of a
person attempting to assist by offering the info and then belittleing the
merits of OO.

Perhaps she needs another weekend that isn't quite so "bad" precluding
propensity to mouth off at a person's attempt to help someone else.

We realize this is an MS topic board and accord it all the immense awe,
adoration and respectability it demands. However, I do not believe a boundry
is drawn which precludes a simple statement offering an alternative to
someone.

Thank you

Patriot

It seems you are the one who is attempting to put someone down, while you
are stooging for OpenOffice. It is really not very good, and lacks most of
the features power users need and want.


someone or something down.
Her

other non MS program
and

appears she is even
hung

smartsuite. I
couldn't

newsgroup her
experiences

know it) that this is
a Microsoft Office, not
O

or

virtues, then post in a
place that program. It
has

a

prepare a simple
document drawback. Put in a
hook

to owns it) and you
might

existing in Microsoft
Office

97.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all

mail sent to my
personal

account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no

answer, Patriot
asked:

| While the Microsoft public boards may not be

the most apropos area
to

| put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is

no troll. I
continually loaded with junk
even to replace
innovation integrity and security
is when dealing with
MS. professional support people
one

am also quite aware
of

design we should be
able

probably will never
get.

alternative to those who
wish

| not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler program will serve
| their needs. So in showing consideration for these users it is
| totally in line to indicate there are other

options available to
them.

|
| Free is a good price for a great compromise program.
|
| Thank you
|
| Patriot
|
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star Office.
||
|| Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs without half the
|| functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may be enough - not for
|| power users. No PIM program, no office automation, etc.
||
|| Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are

happy to get
assistance

|| with something that actually works as advertised.
||
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the

discussion intact. Due
to

|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, niaxous
|| asked:
||
||| Hi,
|||
||| I know I am off the subject but Windows

Office is just soo
expensive

||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view

or write a
presentation.

||| In Europe the simple office version to an

end-user is ? 500
($600).

||| The lisence agreement that companies have to

pay per user in
their

judge, analyse and
implent cheaper
www.openoffice.org.

sourced office
version, aquired throughout
the stick to it(like I
did),

it

or why do you
continue

.

 

[Patriot]

It appears we are now running into a learning curve thing with some folks.

Those I help love OO for it's simplicity and of course the price. I have
never used it nor had it loaded on a machine.

Our corporate interaction has us pretty well locked in on using MS products
because they are the same for all practical purposes in the countries that
can legally import and use them.

We do use Corel WordPerfect for the more intricate interoffice word
processing tasks and especially in instances where special formatting is
imperative and/or professional printing will be used.

So far the folks I point toward OO that can read and write and are somewhat
computer literate have no problems and are grateful.

Come on and put your heart into it. I just know you can do it with some
effort and determination.

Thank you

Patriot


Apparently someone from Microsoft if forcing you to use
their Office products. They don't force us to. We tried
OO and Star Office for our small business and home use
and found them very lacking to say the least. OO and Star
Office are marketed against Office as an alternative, and
the average daily user power or not would have to totally
re-train themselves in usage. Cost ratio vs Office,
granted, it is more but, the range of products aptly
applied to each user more than makes up the difference.
I would use my old (oem)copy of Lotus Smart Suite 97
again before either OO or Star Office....

-----Original Message-----
Sorry, OO is not being "stooged" for power users but for those who need
basic office tools at a price that is just plain okay. I thoroughly support
helping someone who for whatever reason does not wish to or can not obtain
and utilized the high powered and gawdy MS creations.

Making these priced right programs available to those who would use them is
only common decency and will not cause lay offs at MS or create any
financial havoc to their organization.

When I recently came on the scene this Milly person was making an issue of a
person attempting to assist by offering the info and then belittleing the
merits of OO.

Perhaps she needs another weekend that isn't quite so "bad" precluding
propensity to mouth off at a person's attempt to help someone else.

We realize this is an MS topic board and accord it all the immense awe,
adoration and respectability it demands. However, I do not believe a boundry
is drawn which precludes a simple statement offering an alternative to
someone.

Thank you

Patriot

It seems you are the one who is attempting to put someone down, while you
are stooging for OpenOffice. It is really not very good, and lacks most of
the features power users need and want.


someone or something down.
Her

other non MS program
and

appears she is even
hung

smartsuite. I
couldn't

newsgroup her
experiences

know it) that this is
a Microsoft Office, not
O

or

virtues, then post in a
place that program. It
has

a

prepare a simple
document drawback. Put in a
hook

to owns it) and you
might

existing in Microsoft
Office

97.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all

mail sent to my
personal

account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no

answer, Patriot
asked:

| While the Microsoft public boards may not be

the most apropos area
to

| put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is

no troll. I
continually loaded with junk
even to replace
innovation integrity and security
is when dealing with
MS. professional support people
one

am also quite aware
of

design we should be
able

probably will never
get.

alternative to those who
wish

| not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler program will serve
| their needs. So in showing consideration for these users it is
| totally in line to indicate there are other

options available to
them.

|
| Free is a good price for a great compromise program.
|
| Thank you
|
| Patriot
|
|
|
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star Office.
||
|| Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs without half the
|| functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may be enough - not for
|| power users. No PIM program, no office automation, etc.
||
|| Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are

happy to get
assistance

|| with something that actually works as advertised.
||
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the

discussion intact. Due
to

|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, niaxous
|| asked:
||
||| Hi,
|||
||| I know I am off the subject but Windows

Office is just soo
expensive

||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view

or write a
presentation.

||| In Europe the simple office version to an

end-user is ? 500
($600).

||| The lisence agreement that companies have to

pay per user in
their

judge, analyse and
implent cheaper
www.openoffice.org.

sourced office
version, aquired throughout
the stick to it(like I
did),

it

or why do you
continue

.

 

[Chris Schatte]

The reason we are here is to learn from and contribute to the Office group, fully implement our software that we have invested in and then make money from $ spent
Basic investment concept for home or office user
OO/Star Office users etc, are now learning that you cannot always work for "free"....

 

[Chris Schatte]

The reason we are here is to learn from and contribute to the Office group, fully implement our software that we have invested in and then make money from $ spent
Basic investment concept for home or office user
OO/Star Office users etc, are now learning that you cannot always work for "free"....

 

[Chris Schatte]

The reason we are here is to learn from and contribute to the Office group, fully implement our software that we have invested in and then make money from $ spent
Basic investment concept for home or office user
OO/Star Office users etc, are now learning that you cannot always work for "free"....