Undesired resizing of objects

[Ega]

I am preparing a text with Word2007 (and Vista) with many equations (typed
with Mathtype). These equtions show up in Word as objects.
Yet, whenener I open the same file, the size of these objects (the
equations) change! For example, I prepare the equatiom "a = b + c", which
has a certain size, and logically is 100% in width and 100% on height. If I
close the document and open it again, the equation size may change for, say,
116% width and 86% height!! Therefore it looks different in the document and
I cannot use it as it is. The solution I found is to open the equation, and
copy and paste it. This way it comes back to its original 100% size but next
time I open the document it may change its size again!
Does anyone have a hint how to fix this?
Many thanks

 

[Bob Mathews]

I'm betting you sized the equations originally by dragging the corner
until it became the size you wanted it to be. If I'm wrong about that,
my suggestion is to write the MathType tech support guys and let them
work with you to find the cause and a suitable solution. You can reach
them at (e-mail address removed). Include your MathType product key (i.e.,
registration number) when you write.

From your description though, I don't think I'm wrong. Dragging the
corner of an equation to re-size it is not the best technique, and
you've discovered one reason. The other reason is a pretty practical
one too -- if you size your equations this way, no two equations will
be exactly the same size as the surrounding text.

If you want a 10pt equation (for example), why not tell MathType to
create it as a 10pt equation? All you need to do is with MathType
open, choose the Define command from the Size menu, then set the Full
size to be the same size as the document's text. Also note the
checkbox to "Use for new equations". Check it or not, but its purpose
is obvious (meaning that if it's checked, whatever size you set will
become the default size until you change it again).

Set the font in a similar way, in the Style menu. If you want, you can
save this combination of font/size as a Preference File by choosing
Preferences > Equation Preferences > Save to File.

BTW, if I'm correct about the way you originally sized the equations,
the only way to prevent the equations in this document from behaving
badly again is to either re-create them all or re-size them all back
to 100x100%. I recommend doing this, one at a time: click once to
select the equation, press Ctrll+X to cut the equation to the
clipboard, choose the Insert Inline Equation command from the MathType
tab, paste the equation into MathType, change the size to be whatever
you want it to be, then click the red X in the corner to close
MathType.

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[Ega]

Bob,

Many thanks for caring to answer. Unfortunately you are totally wrong.
I do type the equations in Mathttype using a defined Preferences equation
with the style, size, etc. I want. I never use the drag method to resize
equations. Moreover, I did write to Mathtype support (I am a long time user
of Mathtype products) but their answer was not helpfull (reinstal Word). I
believe the problem is related to how Word deals with objects, but I don´t
have a clue how to solve this issue other than open the equation, copy it
and paste it again. As I have hundreds of equations and because the resizing
happens every time I open a document, you may guess that this is not a
reasonable solution.

Again, many thanks!

Regards

Ega

 

[Bob Mathews]

Ega, sorry I missed the mark on my guess at the cause of your problem.
Glad you don't "drag to re-size", and now everyone in the newsgroup
knows not to do that.

I do have one other suggestion that perhaps you've tried, perhaps you
haven't...

In the MathType tab, there's a "Convert Equations" command. Choose
this command, and choose the options to "Convert from MathType
Equations to MathType Equations". This may not make any sense, but
it'll renew the OLE information for each equation, as long as the
equation object isn't corrupted. I'm not 100% sure this will solve
your problem, but it's the next thing I'd try if it was my document.

I assume since you said Tech Support's answer (reinstall Word) wasn't
helpful, you tried this and it didn't solve the problem? Actually, I
think that's a reasonable step to take, since 1) the equation is OK
until you close/reopen the document, 2) it returns to normal after you
cut/paste it, and 3) it's messed up again after you close/reopen the
document. If you've already tried it though, it's probably not worth
trying again.

--
Bob Mathews
Director of Training
Design Science, Inc.
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[Ega]

Bob,

Again, my sincere thanks for your time! I really apreciate it!

Actually I didn´t reinstall Word. The mais reason is that this problem
occurs in different computers and I believe that it is unlikely that a
reinstallation will solve anything.
I am very concened with this problem because I am finishing a camera-ready
900 page book. I do all the formating with the equations, figures and tables
on the correct places. Yet, when I open the document to correct say, a comma,
the formating vanishes because some equations (but not any table or figure)
changes its size! It is very frustating!

Regards
Ega

 

[Bob Mathews]

Ega, I agree; installing Word probably wouldn't help since the problem
is on different computers. You should try the Convert Equations idea I
mentioned though; that may do the trick, or it may not. You don't
really have anything to lose.

--
Bob Mathews
Director of Training
Design Science, Inc.
bobm at dessci.com
http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news
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MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor