using resource pool with master project

J

jgzigler

Right now, I have a separate resource pool attached to the master and to the
subprojects. The resource pool is simply a project with resources but with
no tasks.

First, I want to be able to print a calendar view "using resource..." at the
master
project level that pulls tasks from each of the subprojects for the selected
resource. Do I need to do anything different? Do I need to put the
resources in at the master level and remove the resource pool? Or just leave
it the way it is?

Second, I want the calendar to indicate in some way WHO the selected
resource is. Right now if I have several calendars on my desk there is no
way to figure out which calendar belongs to which person.

Any suggestions out there from the all-knowing Gods of MS Project? :)
 
M

Mike Glen

Hi jgzigler ,

Welcome to this Microsoft Project newsgroup :)

First: try it and see :)

Second: add the name of the resource in the header or footer.

FAQs, companion products and other useful Project information can be seen at
this web address: http://project.mvps.org/faqs.htm

Hope this helps - please let us know how you get on :)

Mike Glen
MS Project MVP
See http://tinyurl.com/2xbhc for Project Tutorials
 
J

JulieS

Hi jgizler,

Well, I am certainly *not* one of the Project Gods -- not even a demi-god,
but let's see if I can assist.

When I created a master project by opening the resource pool file (connected
to several different projects) with the option "Open resource pool file and
all other projects into a master....... I was able to display the Calendar
view and then run the Using Resource filter. The oddity I ran into was the
Using Resource filter dialog box did not populate with resource's names. I
had to manually type in the Resource Name I wanted to use. (And spelling
does count as the Using Resource filter is an exact match.)

As far as displaying which resource is the result of the filter, I think the
easiest thing is to change the format of the calendar view to add Resource
Names after the name of the task. Go to Format > Bar Styles enter Resource
Names after the Name field (use a comma to separate the values.)

I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.

Julie
 
J

jgzigler

Im unable to find "Open resource pool file and all other projects into a
master...." as a choice anywhere.

I had an existing project that I called "resourcepool.mpp" and shared that
file with each of my subprojects. I then decided to create a master project
file. I selected 'share resources' and selected the resource pool file. I
then inserted the subprojects into the master file with links back to the
subproject files.
How would you do it any different than that?

How do I add the resource name in the header? It is not listed as an
available field in the page setup dialogue. FYI I created a text field for
each task that is called "responsible" and populate it with the resource
name, but am unable to get either resource name or responsible to show up.
 
M

Mike Glen

OK, jgzigler, start with Project open and with no projects opened. Now
select and open your pool file. When the pool file opens, you will see a
dialog with three options, the last being the one thet Julie mentioned.

You will have to type in the resource name into the header.

You might like to have a look at my series on Microsoft Project in the
TechTrax ezine, particularly #17 & 18 on multiple projects, at this site:
http://tinyurl.com/2xbhc or this:
http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/Pub0009/LPMFrame.asp?CMD=ArticleSearch&AUTH=23
(Perhaps you'd care to rate the articles before leaving the site, :)
Thanks.)

Hope this helps - please let us know how you get on :)

Mike Glen
Project MVP
 
J

jgzigler

FYI - If I do it as you and Julie suggest (putting the resources IN the
master project instead of in a separate file), the list of resource names
isnt populated. If you do it the way I did (with a separate shared resource
pool), the list of resource names IS populated.

Joel
 
M

Mike Glen

You misread - creating a pool file IS the way to go, how did you read the
opposite? Did you have a look at my tutorials?


Mike Glen
Project MVP
 
J

JulieS

Hi Joel,

Sorry for getting back to you late. It sounds as though you may be
heading for a corrupted file. If you have created a resource pool file
and have files sharing resources, you shouldn't create a master file and
share the resources again.

The idea behind a resource pool file is that it can create a master
project automatically when you open the resource pool file. No need to
create a separate "master project" with inserted projects.

I suggest you open the master project you created, stop sharing
resources (Tools > Resource Sharing > Share Resource, Use own Resources)
to break the link between the pool file and the master project. Then
open the pool file with the second option (Open Resource pool read/write
etc.). Navigate to Tools > Resource Sharing > Share Resources and in
the dialog box, make sure you do not have the master file you created in
the list. If it is, select the master project and choose the button
Break Link. Save and close the pool.

I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.

Julie
Project MVP

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional information
about Microsoft Project
 
J

jgzigler

If I break the link for sharing resources between the master and the resource
pool, am I going to have the problem you mentioned where the names of the
resources are not populated in the drop-down box?

My goal remains where I can print a calendar view (or a to-do list) from the
master level that will print all tasks "using resource..." and it will pull
tasks from all of the subprojects for that resource. I do not want to have
to type in the name of the resource.
 
J

JulieS

Hi Joel,

Yes. If you stop sharing the resource pool file to the master project,
you will need to type in the resource name into the filter.

You may certainly continue to work as you wish with having the
subprojects sharing resources and again the master project sharing
resources. However, as both Mike and I have mentioned, sharing the
resource pool to the master file is not necessary nor recommended. You
risk corruption in the pool file and potentially the master and sharer
files as well.

I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.

Julie
Project MVP

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional information
about Microsoft Project
 
J

jgzigler

Julie,
So would it be better if I removed the link then deleted the file I am
currently using as the Master ('MasterCC.mpp') and then renamed the
'resourcepool.mpp' and called that the master? I suppose I would have to
make sure I copy any reports, tables, or views in the master to the global
file before deleting. Anything else I should be aware of if I do it like
this?

P.S. Why is there a concern with file corruption doing it the way I did it?
It makes sense to me that an organization would have one resource pool that
they would want to link to several master projects (ie different software
development projects) and that one or more master projects may have one or
more subprojects (ie a subproject for each software release or phase). I am
in software development and I use Project 2003 standard edition.
 
J

JulieS

Hi Joel,

Perhaps we need to just start back at the beginning as we seem to have
some miscommunication :).

I am assuming you have several project files (software releases or
phases.) I assume that among the multiple projects going on within your
organization that it is the same resources performing the work on those
several projects. I assume you need a way to see all assignments for
resources across several project files to see what resource demand
issues there may be.

To that end, I assume you have created a resource pool file (pool. mpp)
which contains no tasks, just resources.

You have created several project files (Project A, Project B, etc.)
which contains tasks, no resources.

You have opened the resource pool file (pool.mpp) and one of the project
files (Project A) and gone to Tools > Resource Sharing > Share
Resources, Use resources from the pool. This creates the pool/sharer
file relationship. You then assign resources in the project file as
usual.

The pool file then holds all resource assignment data. If you then
connect other project files (Project B, Project C) to the pool through
Tools > Resource Sharing > Share Resources, use resources from the pool
you can continue to assign the same resources to the tasks in each
project. The resource pool file then holds all assignment data (tasks +
resources) in all project files connected to the pool.

There is no need to create a master project file of the Projects A, B, C
through Insert Project. If you close all project files and then open
the pool, a prompt will appear with three options:

"Open the resource pool read-only allowing others to work on projects
connected to the pool."

"Open resource pool read-read so that you can make changes to resource
information (like pay rate, etc.), although this will lock others out of
updating the pool with new information."

"Open resource pool read-write and all other sharer files into a new
master project file. You can access this new master project file from
the Window menu command."

If you choose the last option, the master project is created. All tasks
from all sharer files are combined into one file. From that file you
can do reporting. The master project already has the pool file
connected as it was the pool file which allowed you to create the master
project.

In the scenario you describe, you have essentially two connections to
the pool -- never a grand choice. As a number of posters on this ng
will attest -- resource pool files are fickle objects. If you do not
treat them with care you increase the possibility of creating a
corrupted file.

Please let me know if any of my assumptions about your setup and the
method you used to create the resource pool and the sharer files are
wrong.

I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.

Julie
Project MVP

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional information
about Microsoft Project
 
J

jgzigler

We are in agreement up until the point where you say:
If you choose the last option, the master project is created. All tasks
from all sharer files are combined into one file. From that file you
can do reporting. The master project already has the pool file
connected as it was the pool file which allowed you to create the master
project.

IF I were to choose the 3rd option... what is meant by 'combined into one
file'? Are they only combined for reporting purposes? I do not want ONE BIG
file with all my projects in it... unless the file is only created
temporarily for reporting purposes. I want to be able to keep my subprojects
in separate files. What happens after the report is printed? Can I close
the new super-duper master file and then reopen the subprojects as I used to?
Or does the act of combining the files (using the 3rd option) permanently
merge the files together?
 
J

JulieS

Hi Joel,

My answers are embedded.

I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.

Julie
Project MVP

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional information
about Microsoft Project


jgzigler said:
We are in agreement up until the point where you say:

IF I were to choose the 3rd option... what is meant by 'combined into
one
file'? Are they only combined for reporting purposes? I do not want ONE BIG
file with all my projects in it... unless the file is only created
temporarily for reporting purposes.
[Julie] You do not have to save the master project and can use that for
reporting purposes only.
I want to be able to keep my subprojects
in separate files. What happens after the report is printed? Can I
close
the new super-duper master file and then reopen the subprojects as I
used to? [Julie] Yes.
Or does the act of combining the files (using the 3rd option)
permanently
merge the files together?
[Julie] No. The master project is created "on the fly" and you can
close and not save the master project. The individual projects may still
be open separately and unless you create links between the projects, are
not impacted by the other project files except for the resource pool
connection. You may easily re-consolidate the files again as need be.

I hope this helps.

I think many of your questions may also be answered by taking a look at
Mike Glen's articles (#17 & #18) that he mentioned in his post to this
thread on 6 October.
 
J

jgzigler

One more question:
If I am just creating the consolidated master project 'on the fly' and not
saving it, what happens to my reports and views?

Thanks in advance for all your advice :)


JulieS said:
Hi Joel,

My answers are embedded.

I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.

Julie
Project MVP

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional information
about Microsoft Project


jgzigler said:
We are in agreement up until the point where you say:

IF I were to choose the 3rd option... what is meant by 'combined into
one
file'? Are they only combined for reporting purposes? I do not want ONE BIG
file with all my projects in it... unless the file is only created
temporarily for reporting purposes.
[Julie] You do not have to save the master project and can use that for
reporting purposes only.
I want to be able to keep my subprojects
in separate files. What happens after the report is printed? Can I
close
the new super-duper master file and then reopen the subprojects as I
used to? [Julie] Yes.
Or does the act of combining the files (using the 3rd option)
permanently
merge the files together?
[Julie] No. The master project is created "on the fly" and you can
close and not save the master project. The individual projects may still
be open separately and unless you create links between the projects, are
not impacted by the other project files except for the resource pool
connection. You may easily re-consolidate the files again as need be.

I hope this helps.

I think many of your questions may also be answered by taking a look at
Mike Glen's articles (#17 & #18) that he mentioned in his post to this
thread on 6 October.

 
J

JulieS

Hi Joel,

You are more than welcome and thanks for the feedback.

If you have created custom reports and view in the subproject file, you
can copy them to the consolidated project file using the organizer
(Tools > Organizer, select the view and copy to either the consolidated
file or to the Global.mpt file)

The advantage of copying to Global is that the consolidated project file
created "on the fly" is based upon Global.mpt, so the custom reports and
views should be there for you already.

I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.

Julie
Project MVP

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional information
about Microsoft Project


jgzigler said:
One more question:
If I am just creating the consolidated master project 'on the fly' and
not
saving it, what happens to my reports and views?

Thanks in advance for all your advice :)


JulieS said:
Hi Joel,

My answers are embedded.

I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.

Julie
Project MVP

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional
information
about Microsoft Project


jgzigler said:
We are in agreement up until the point where you say:
If you choose the last option, the master project is created.
All
tasks
from all sharer files are combined into one file. From that
file you
can do reporting. The master project already has the pool
file
connected as it was the pool file which allowed you to create
the
master
project.

IF I were to choose the 3rd option... what is meant by 'combined
into
one
file'? Are they only combined for reporting purposes? I do not want ONE BIG
file with all my projects in it... unless the file is only created
temporarily for reporting purposes.
[Julie] You do not have to save the master project and can use that
for
reporting purposes only.
I want to be able to keep my subprojects
in separate files. What happens after the report is printed? Can
I
close
the new super-duper master file and then reopen the subprojects as
I
used to? [Julie] Yes.
Or does the act of combining the files (using the 3rd option)
permanently
merge the files together?
[Julie] No. The master project is created "on the fly" and you can
close and not save the master project. The individual projects may
still
be open separately and unless you create links between the projects,
are
not impacted by the other project files except for the resource pool
connection. You may easily re-consolidate the files again as need
be.

I hope this helps.

I think many of your questions may also be answered by taking a look
at
Mike Glen's articles (#17 & #18) that he mentioned in his post to
this
thread on 6 October.

:

Hi Joel,

Perhaps we need to just start back at the beginning as we seem to
have
some miscommunication :).

I am assuming you have several project files (software releases or
phases.) I assume that among the multiple projects going on
within
your
organization that it is the same resources performing the work on
those
several projects. I assume you need a way to see all assignments
for
resources across several project files to see what resource demand
issues there may be.

To that end, I assume you have created a resource pool file (pool.
mpp)
which contains no tasks, just resources.

You have created several project files (Project A, Project B,
etc.)
which contains tasks, no resources.

You have opened the resource pool file (pool.mpp) and one of the
project
files (Project A) and gone to Tools > Resource Sharing > Share
Resources, Use resources from the pool. This creates the
pool/sharer
file relationship. You then assign resources in the project file
as
usual.

The pool file then holds all resource assignment data. If you
then
connect other project files (Project B, Project C) to the pool
through
Tools > Resource Sharing > Share Resources, use resources from the
pool
you can continue to assign the same resources to the tasks in each
project. The resource pool file then holds all assignment data
(tasks +
resources) in all project files connected to the pool.

There is no need to create a master project file of the Projects
A,
B, C
through Insert Project. If you close all project files and then
open
the pool, a prompt will appear with three options:

"Open the resource pool read-only allowing others to work on
projects
connected to the pool."

"Open resource pool read-read so that you can make changes to
resource
information (like pay rate, etc.), although this will lock others
out
of
updating the pool with new information."

"Open resource pool read-write and all other sharer files into a
new
master project file. You can access this new master project file
from
the Window menu command."

If you choose the last option, the master project is created. All
tasks
from all sharer files are combined into one file. From that file
you
can do reporting. The master project already has the pool file
connected as it was the pool file which allowed you to create the
master
project.

In the scenario you describe, you have essentially two connections
to
the pool -- never a grand choice. As a number of posters on this
ng
will attest -- resource pool files are fickle objects. If you do
not
treat them with care you increase the possibility of creating a
corrupted file.

Please let me know if any of my assumptions about your setup and
the
method you used to create the resource pool and the sharer files
are
wrong.

I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.

Julie
Project MVP

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional
information
about Microsoft Project


Julie,
So would it be better if I removed the link then deleted the
file I
am
currently using as the Master ('MasterCC.mpp') and then renamed
the
'resourcepool.mpp' and called that the master? I suppose I
would
have
to
make sure I copy any reports, tables, or views in the master to
the
global
file before deleting. Anything else I should be aware of if I
do
it
like
this?

P.S. Why is there a concern with file corruption doing it the
way I
did it?
It makes sense to me that an organization would have one
resource
pool
that
they would want to link to several master projects (ie different
software
development projects) and that one or more master projects may
have
one or
more subprojects (ie a subproject for each software release or
phase).
I am
in software development and I use Project 2003 standard edition.


:

Hi Joel,

Yes. If you stop sharing the resource pool file to the master
project,
you will need to type in the resource name into the filter.

You may certainly continue to work as you wish with having the
subprojects sharing resources and again the master project
sharing
resources. However, as both Mike and I have mentioned, sharing
the
resource pool to the master file is not necessary nor
recommended.
You
risk corruption in the pool file and potentially the master and
sharer
files as well.

I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.

Julie
Project MVP

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional
information
about Microsoft Project


message
If I break the link for sharing resources between the master
and
the
resource
pool, am I going to have the problem you mentioned where the
names
of
the
resources are not populated in the drop-down box?

My goal remains where I can print a calendar view (or a to-do
list)
from the
master level that will print all tasks "using resource..."
and
it
will
pull
tasks from all of the subprojects for that resource. I do
not
want
to
have
to type in the name of the resource.



:

Hi Joel,

Sorry for getting back to you late. It sounds as though you
may
be
heading for a corrupted file. If you have created a
resource
pool
file
and have files sharing resources, you shouldn't create a
master
file
and
share the resources again.

The idea behind a resource pool file is that it can create a
master
project automatically when you open the resource pool file.
No
need
to
create a separate "master project" with inserted projects.

I suggest you open the master project you created, stop
sharing
resources (Tools > Resource Sharing > Share Resource, Use
own
Resources)
to break the link between the pool file and the master
project.
Then
open the pool file with the second option (Open Resource
pool
read/write
etc.). Navigate to Tools > Resource Sharing > Share
Resources
and
in
the dialog box, make sure you do not have the master file
you
created
in
the list. If it is, select the master project and choose
the
button
Break Link. Save and close the pool.

I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.

Julie
Project MVP

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional
information
about Microsoft Project


message
FYI - If I do it as you and Julie suggest (putting the
resources
IN
the
master project instead of in a separate file), the list of
resource
names
isnt populated. If you do it the way I did (with a
separate
shared
resource
pool), the list of resource names IS populated.

Joel

:

OK, jgzigler, start with Project open and with no
projects
opened.
 
J

jgzigler

Greetings from chilly Minnesota,

Yet another question :)

If I copy the report/table/view from my subproject to the global.mpt file
today then make a change to the report/table/view in my subproject tomorrow,
will the global.mpt file contain the changes I made or do I have to recopy it
over after I make the changes?



JulieS said:
Hi Joel,

You are more than welcome and thanks for the feedback.

If you have created custom reports and view in the subproject file, you
can copy them to the consolidated project file using the organizer
(Tools > Organizer, select the view and copy to either the consolidated
file or to the Global.mpt file)

The advantage of copying to Global is that the consolidated project file
created "on the fly" is based upon Global.mpt, so the custom reports and
views should be there for you already.

I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.

Julie
Project MVP

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional information
about Microsoft Project


jgzigler said:
One more question:
If I am just creating the consolidated master project 'on the fly' and
not
saving it, what happens to my reports and views?

Thanks in advance for all your advice :)


JulieS said:
Hi Joel,

My answers are embedded.

I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.

Julie
Project MVP

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional
information
about Microsoft Project


We are in agreement up until the point where you say:
If you choose the last option, the master project is created.
All
tasks
from all sharer files are combined into one file. From that
file you
can do reporting. The master project already has the pool
file
connected as it was the pool file which allowed you to create
the
master
project.

IF I were to choose the 3rd option... what is meant by 'combined
into
one
file'? Are they only combined for reporting purposes?
I do not want ONE BIG
file with all my projects in it... unless the file is only created
temporarily for reporting purposes.
[Julie] You do not have to save the master project and can use that
for
reporting purposes only.
I want to be able to keep my subprojects
in separate files. What happens after the report is printed? Can
I
close
the new super-duper master file and then reopen the subprojects as
I
used to?
[Julie] Yes.
Or does the act of combining the files (using the 3rd option)
permanently
merge the files together?
[Julie] No. The master project is created "on the fly" and you can
close and not save the master project. The individual projects may
still
be open separately and unless you create links between the projects,
are
not impacted by the other project files except for the resource pool
connection. You may easily re-consolidate the files again as need
be.

I hope this helps.

I think many of your questions may also be answered by taking a look
at
Mike Glen's articles (#17 & #18) that he mentioned in his post to
this
thread on 6 October.


:

Hi Joel,

Perhaps we need to just start back at the beginning as we seem to
have
some miscommunication :).

I am assuming you have several project files (software releases or
phases.) I assume that among the multiple projects going on
within
your
organization that it is the same resources performing the work on
those
several projects. I assume you need a way to see all assignments
for
resources across several project files to see what resource demand
issues there may be.

To that end, I assume you have created a resource pool file (pool.
mpp)
which contains no tasks, just resources.

You have created several project files (Project A, Project B,
etc.)
which contains tasks, no resources.

You have opened the resource pool file (pool.mpp) and one of the
project
files (Project A) and gone to Tools > Resource Sharing > Share
Resources, Use resources from the pool. This creates the
pool/sharer
file relationship. You then assign resources in the project file
as
usual.

The pool file then holds all resource assignment data. If you
then
connect other project files (Project B, Project C) to the pool
through
Tools > Resource Sharing > Share Resources, use resources from the
pool
you can continue to assign the same resources to the tasks in each
project. The resource pool file then holds all assignment data
(tasks +
resources) in all project files connected to the pool.

There is no need to create a master project file of the Projects
A,
B, C
through Insert Project. If you close all project files and then
open
the pool, a prompt will appear with three options:

"Open the resource pool read-only allowing others to work on
projects
connected to the pool."

"Open resource pool read-read so that you can make changes to
resource
information (like pay rate, etc.), although this will lock others
out
of
updating the pool with new information."

"Open resource pool read-write and all other sharer files into a
new
master project file. You can access this new master project file
from
the Window menu command."

If you choose the last option, the master project is created. All
tasks
from all sharer files are combined into one file. From that file
you
can do reporting. The master project already has the pool file
connected as it was the pool file which allowed you to create the
master
project.

In the scenario you describe, you have essentially two connections
to
the pool -- never a grand choice. As a number of posters on this
ng
will attest -- resource pool files are fickle objects. If you do
not
treat them with care you increase the possibility of creating a
corrupted file.

Please let me know if any of my assumptions about your setup and
the
method you used to create the resource pool and the sharer files
are
wrong.

I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.

Julie
Project MVP

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional
information
about Microsoft Project


Julie,
So would it be better if I removed the link then deleted the
file I
am
currently using as the Master ('MasterCC.mpp') and then renamed
the
'resourcepool.mpp' and called that the master? I suppose I
would
have
to
make sure I copy any reports, tables, or views in the master to
the
global
file before deleting. Anything else I should be aware of if I
do
it
like
this?

P.S. Why is there a concern with file corruption doing it the
way I
did it?
It makes sense to me that an organization would have one
resource
pool
that
they would want to link to several master projects (ie different
software
development projects) and that one or more master projects may
have
one or
more subprojects (ie a subproject for each software release or
phase).
I am
in software development and I use Project 2003 standard edition.


:

Hi Joel,

Yes. If you stop sharing the resource pool file to the master
project,
you will need to type in the resource name into the filter.

You may certainly continue to work as you wish with having the
subprojects sharing resources and again the master project
sharing
resources. However, as both Mike and I have mentioned, sharing
the
resource pool to the master file is not necessary nor
recommended.
You
risk corruption in the pool file and potentially the master and
sharer
files as well.

I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.

Julie
Project MVP

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional
information
about Microsoft Project


message
If I break the link for sharing resources between the master
and
the
resource
pool, am I going to have the problem you mentioned where the
names
of
the
resources are not populated in the drop-down box?

My goal remains where I can print a calendar view (or a to-do
list)
from the
master level that will print all tasks "using resource..."
and
it
will
pull
tasks from all of the subprojects for that resource. I do
not
want
 
J

JulieS

Greetings from unusually damp Maine :)

If you copy a custom report/table/view to Global and then change the
item in the subproject file, you will need to "re-copy" the item back to
Global to have the modified copy in Global.

I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.

Julie
Project MVP

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional information
about Microsoft Project


jgzigler said:
Greetings from chilly Minnesota,

Yet another question :)

If I copy the report/table/view from my subproject to the global.mpt
file
today then make a change to the report/table/view in my subproject
tomorrow,
will the global.mpt file contain the changes I made or do I have to
recopy it
over after I make the changes?



JulieS said:
Hi Joel,

You are more than welcome and thanks for the feedback.

If you have created custom reports and view in the subproject file,
you
can copy them to the consolidated project file using the organizer
(Tools > Organizer, select the view and copy to either the
consolidated
file or to the Global.mpt file)

The advantage of copying to Global is that the consolidated project
file
created "on the fly" is based upon Global.mpt, so the custom reports
and
views should be there for you already.

I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.

Julie
Project MVP

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional
information
about Microsoft Project


jgzigler said:
One more question:
If I am just creating the consolidated master project 'on the fly'
and
not
saving it, what happens to my reports and views?

Thanks in advance for all your advice :)


:

Hi Joel,

My answers are embedded.

I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.

Julie
Project MVP

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional
information
about Microsoft Project


We are in agreement up until the point where you say:
If you choose the last option, the master project is
created.
All
tasks
from all sharer files are combined into one file. From
that
file you
can do reporting. The master project already has the pool
file
connected as it was the pool file which allowed you to
create
the
master
project.

IF I were to choose the 3rd option... what is meant by 'combined
into
one
file'? Are they only combined for reporting purposes?
I do not want ONE BIG
file with all my projects in it... unless the file is only
created
temporarily for reporting purposes.
[Julie] You do not have to save the master project and can use
that
for
reporting purposes only.
I want to be able to keep my subprojects
in separate files. What happens after the report is printed?
Can
I
close
the new super-duper master file and then reopen the subprojects
as
I
used to?
[Julie] Yes.
Or does the act of combining the files (using the 3rd option)
permanently
merge the files together?
[Julie] No. The master project is created "on the fly" and you
can
close and not save the master project. The individual projects may
still
be open separately and unless you create links between the
projects,
are
not impacted by the other project files except for the resource
pool
connection. You may easily re-consolidate the files again as need
be.

I hope this helps.

I think many of your questions may also be answered by taking a
look
at
Mike Glen's articles (#17 & #18) that he mentioned in his post to
this
thread on 6 October.


:

Hi Joel,

Perhaps we need to just start back at the beginning as we seem
to
have
some miscommunication :).

I am assuming you have several project files (software releases
or
phases.) I assume that among the multiple projects going on
within
your
organization that it is the same resources performing the work
on
those
several projects. I assume you need a way to see all
assignments
for
resources across several project files to see what resource
demand
issues there may be.

To that end, I assume you have created a resource pool file
(pool.
mpp)
which contains no tasks, just resources.

You have created several project files (Project A, Project B,
etc.)
which contains tasks, no resources.

You have opened the resource pool file (pool.mpp) and one of
the
project
files (Project A) and gone to Tools > Resource Sharing > Share
Resources, Use resources from the pool. This creates the
pool/sharer
file relationship. You then assign resources in the project
file
as
usual.

The pool file then holds all resource assignment data. If you
then
connect other project files (Project B, Project C) to the pool
through
Tools > Resource Sharing > Share Resources, use resources from
the
pool
you can continue to assign the same resources to the tasks in
each
project. The resource pool file then holds all assignment data
(tasks +
resources) in all project files connected to the pool.

There is no need to create a master project file of the
Projects
A,
B, C
through Insert Project. If you close all project files and
then
open
the pool, a prompt will appear with three options:

"Open the resource pool read-only allowing others to work on
projects
connected to the pool."

"Open resource pool read-read so that you can make changes to
resource
information (like pay rate, etc.), although this will lock
others
out
of
updating the pool with new information."

"Open resource pool read-write and all other sharer files into
a
new
master project file. You can access this new master project
file
from
the Window menu command."

If you choose the last option, the master project is created.
All
tasks
from all sharer files are combined into one file. From that
file
you
can do reporting. The master project already has the pool file
connected as it was the pool file which allowed you to create
the
master
project.

In the scenario you describe, you have essentially two
connections
to
the pool -- never a grand choice. As a number of posters on
this
ng
will attest -- resource pool files are fickle objects. If you
do
not
treat them with care you increase the possibility of creating a
corrupted file.

Please let me know if any of my assumptions about your setup
and
the
method you used to create the resource pool and the sharer
files
are
wrong.

I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.

Julie
Project MVP

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional
information
about Microsoft Project


message
Julie,
So would it be better if I removed the link then deleted the
file I
am
currently using as the Master ('MasterCC.mpp') and then
renamed
the
'resourcepool.mpp' and called that the master? I suppose I
would
have
to
make sure I copy any reports, tables, or views in the master
to
the
global
file before deleting. Anything else I should be aware of
if I
do
it
like
this?

P.S. Why is there a concern with file corruption doing it the
way I
did it?
It makes sense to me that an organization would have one
resource
pool
that
they would want to link to several master projects (ie
different
software
development projects) and that one or more master projects
may
have
one or
more subprojects (ie a subproject for each software release
or
phase).
I am
in software development and I use Project 2003 standard
edition.


:

Hi Joel,

Yes. If you stop sharing the resource pool file to the
master
project,
you will need to type in the resource name into the filter.

You may certainly continue to work as you wish with having
the
subprojects sharing resources and again the master project
sharing
resources. However, as both Mike and I have mentioned,
sharing
the
resource pool to the master file is not necessary nor
recommended.
You
risk corruption in the pool file and potentially the master
and
sharer
files as well.

I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.

Julie
Project MVP

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional
information
about Microsoft Project


message
If I break the link for sharing resources between the
master
and
the
resource
pool, am I going to have the problem you mentioned where
the
names
of
the
resources are not populated in the drop-down box?

My goal remains where I can print a calendar view (or a
to-do
list)
from the
master level that will print all tasks "using resource..."
and
it
will
pull
tasks from all of the subprojects for that resource. I do
not
want
 

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