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William Hindman
....it is part of the VSTO.
William Hindman
William Hindman
Craig Alexander Morrison said:
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dbahooker
William;
I could give a flying **** about the EULA.
Microsoft has abused us developers with crappy ass software for too
many years.
I have a laundry list of at least a half dozen GOOD UNIQUE BUGS that
Microsoft won't fix.
I complained up a storm at MIcrosoft about this; they found it EASIER
TO FIRE SOMEONE FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH-- FOR FUCKS SAKES-- than to fix
a couple REALLY ANNOYING AND DANGEROUS BUGS (including random execution
of sprocs; etc)
APPARENTLY, Microsoft doesn't give a shit of sprocs get fired randomly
without reason.
-Aaron
I could give a flying **** about the EULA.
Microsoft has abused us developers with crappy ass software for too
many years.
I have a laundry list of at least a half dozen GOOD UNIQUE BUGS that
Microsoft won't fix.
I complained up a storm at MIcrosoft about this; they found it EASIER
TO FIRE SOMEONE FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH-- FOR FUCKS SAKES-- than to fix
a couple REALLY ANNOYING AND DANGEROUS BUGS (including random execution
of sprocs; etc)
APPARENTLY, Microsoft doesn't give a shit of sprocs get fired randomly
without reason.
-Aaron
William said:...sigh ...read the Eula ...the Office Pro disk also contains a full install
of Access ...do you think that licenses you to install it on other systems?
...you need the VSTO in order to install licensed copies of the runtime on
systems without an Access 2K3 install ...else you might as well distribute a
pirated copy and wait for MS to lock your clients out.
William Hindman
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dbahooker
and because of that; I hereby declare that we should storm into
Microsoft and start demanding BUG-FREE SOFTWARE THAT IS REASONABLE TO
DEPLOY.
EAT SHIT MICROSOFT.
WHY DONT U STICK A USABILITY STUDY ONTO THE 'ART' FOR FUX SAKES
-Aaron
Microsoft and start demanding BUG-FREE SOFTWARE THAT IS REASONABLE TO
DEPLOY.
EAT SHIT MICROSOFT.
WHY DONT U STICK A USABILITY STUDY ONTO THE 'ART' FOR FUX SAKES
-Aaron
William said:...sigh ...read the Eula ...the Office Pro disk also contains a full install
of Access ...do you think that licenses you to install it on other systems?
...you need the VSTO in order to install licensed copies of the runtime on
systems without an Access 2K3 install ...else you might as well distribute a
pirated copy and wait for MS to lock your clients out.
William Hindman
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Craig Alexander Morrison
No it is not always part of the VSTO....
MSDN Subscribers below a certain level will get the VSTO but the ADE is not
included.
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Slainte
Craig Alexander Morrison
Crawbridge Data (Scotland) Limited
Small Business Solutions Provider
MSDN Subscribers below a certain level will get the VSTO but the ADE is not
included.
--
Slainte
Craig Alexander Morrison
Crawbridge Data (Scotland) Limited
Small Business Solutions Provider
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William Hindman
....your source?
William Hindman
William Hindman
Craig Alexander Morrison said:No it is not always part of the VSTO....
MSDN Subscribers below a certain level will get the VSTO but the ADE is
not included.
--
Slainte
Craig Alexander Morrison
Crawbridge Data (Scotland) Limited
Small Business Solutions Provider
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Douglas J. Steele
Craig's absolutely correct. I don't know whether it's still the case now
that VSTO 2005 is out (and now that MSDN has revamped its subscription
levels), but VSTO 2003 definitely did not include ADE if you got it with
certain levels of MSDN.
that VSTO 2005 is out (and now that MSDN has revamped its subscription
levels), but VSTO 2003 definitely did not include ADE if you got it with
certain levels of MSDN.
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dbahooker
I call HOGWASH.
just use the AccessRT.msi that is included on the Office 2003
Professional disk.
Is it OUR FAULT THAT MICROSOFT DIDN"T RUN A SINGLE USABILITY TEST TO
THIS PROCESS?
Microsoft has never taken Access seriously; so they can ****
themselves.
-Aaron
ADP Nationalist
just use the AccessRT.msi that is included on the Office 2003
Professional disk.
Is it OUR FAULT THAT MICROSOFT DIDN"T RUN A SINGLE USABILITY TEST TO
THIS PROCESS?
Microsoft has never taken Access seriously; so they can ****
themselves.
-Aaron
ADP Nationalist
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manningfan
They can blow me. I've never paid for an MS product and I never will.
It just sucks that MS has bullied their way into everyone's computer
room because their software sucks camel ass. I'm current through
Office 2003 Professional and Server 2003 and use them grudgingly.
Thank GOD for torrent sites.
It just sucks that MS has bullied their way into everyone's computer
room because their software sucks camel ass. I'm current through
Office 2003 Professional and Server 2003 and use them grudgingly.
Thank GOD for torrent sites.
J
James A. Fortune
They can blow me. I've never paid for an MS product and I never will.
It just sucks that MS has bullied their way into everyone's computer
room because their software sucks camel ass. I'm current through
Office 2003 Professional and Server 2003 and use them grudgingly.
Thank GOD for torrent sites.
I'm not comfortable running any software, even properly purchased MS
software, when I don't have the source code. Running cracked software
would make be doubly uncomfortable. Software developers especially
should not run or encourage pirated software, possibly true comments
about MS' methods or performance notwithstanding. My main customer is
slowly reestablishing license compliance after a momentary lapse in some
areas. I try to be as meticulous as I can about licenses and it's not
because I like giving money to Microsoft or others. Trust me. Of
course, my customers trust me because they know I try extremely hard to
stick to my word. I'm not claiming to be perfect, but I think it's a
much better way. It makes both you and the software more reliable. The
momentary gain you get by cheating is ephemeral. Think of a pool player
who wins by sharking or resorting to gamesmanship or some other form of
cheating rather than hoping the opponent plays their best. The level of
competition they play at won't be as good. Consequently, they won't
become as good as they should for the same amount of effort. Software
piracy is short-sighted. Of course, you're free to discover the
difference empirically for yourself.
James A. Fortune
(e-mail address removed)
Me: Is it fair that insured motorists have to help foot the bill for
uninsured motorists?
Dr. Wedekind: No, but our society has adoped the convention that those
who "have" help share the burden of those who "have not."
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dbahooker
I've never run pirated software; installed pirated software.
If I buy a copy of Office Professional and I want to install
AccessRT.MSI on another machine; i mean-- am I breaking a single EULA?
it's an 'error of omission'
-Aaron
If I buy a copy of Office Professional and I want to install
AccessRT.MSI on another machine; i mean-- am I breaking a single EULA?
it's an 'error of omission'
-Aaron
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dbahooker
and for the records?
bending the rules is acceptable when you're FIGHTING A WAR against an
abusive monopoly.
I could give a shit; a flying ****.
Microsoft has ABUSED DEVELOPERS, END USERS, AND EVERYONE ELSE ON THE
PLANET BY PRODUCING CRAPPY BUGGY SOFTWARE.
I think that this world would be a better place if Iraq or Osama nuked
Redmond.
-Aaron
bending the rules is acceptable when you're FIGHTING A WAR against an
abusive monopoly.
I could give a shit; a flying ****.
Microsoft has ABUSED DEVELOPERS, END USERS, AND EVERYONE ELSE ON THE
PLANET BY PRODUCING CRAPPY BUGGY SOFTWARE.
I think that this world would be a better place if Iraq or Osama nuked
Redmond.
-Aaron
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dbahooker
and if Microsoft PAID _ANY_ ATTENTION to their purchasing strategies?
they wouldnt do shit like 'only sell 2003 web edition' through OEM.
If Microsoft PAID _ANY_ ATTENTION they would offer PURCHASING OPTIONS.
Can I even go to microsoft.com/sql and BUY a copy of SQL Developers'
Edition?
I _AINT_ talking to no Microsoft sales person; I want to pay $49 for a
developers edition... without going through Amazon or some other CRAP.
-Aaron
they wouldnt do shit like 'only sell 2003 web edition' through OEM.
If Microsoft PAID _ANY_ ATTENTION they would offer PURCHASING OPTIONS.
Can I even go to microsoft.com/sql and BUY a copy of SQL Developers'
Edition?
I _AINT_ talking to no Microsoft sales person; I want to pay $49 for a
developers edition... without going through Amazon or some other CRAP.
-Aaron
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William Hindman
....evidently you are altogether incapable of cogent thought ...may you be in
Redmond when your pals answer your wishes.
William Hindman
Redmond when your pals answer your wishes.
William Hindman
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dbahooker
what... does Microsoft sell BUGFREE SOFTWARE?
if they don't then they should shut down their Xbox division and start
taking their core competencies seriously.
BUG FREE SOFTWARE.
the practice of deploying the ART is completely impractical and
UNUSABLE.
Microsoft should **** THEMSELVES for not catering to the needs of
Access USERS, Developers.. and while we're at it; not catering to the
needs of VB developers.
I mean; Microsoft doesn't give a shit about Access or VB; so I call for
BOMBING MICROSOFT until they start taking us seriously
-Aaron
if they don't then they should shut down their Xbox division and start
taking their core competencies seriously.
BUG FREE SOFTWARE.
the practice of deploying the ART is completely impractical and
UNUSABLE.
Microsoft should **** THEMSELVES for not catering to the needs of
Access USERS, Developers.. and while we're at it; not catering to the
needs of VB developers.
I mean; Microsoft doesn't give a shit about Access or VB; so I call for
BOMBING MICROSOFT until they start taking us seriously
-Aaron
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