Which program better.

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Again Front Page 2003

Thanks for the prompt reply. Is there a better product
out there that is easy to use. the boss wants "wow" web
pages on my limited knowledge.
 
M

Murray

Limited knowledge can only produce limited pages, unfortunately. It's not
the tool, it's the user. Ask your boss to educate you.
 
C

chris leeds

if you've got limited knowledge and FrontPage 03, I'd go to a place like
PixelMill and look for a "wow" site template (specifically for FrontPage/
03). It's a bargain for under $100 you'll get thousands of bucks worth of
graphics design and layout, then you just type what you want in the pages
and publish.

ps. there's not a hint of sarcasm, I used the above technique myself for
quite a while. ;-)

--
Chris Leeds,
Microsoft MVP FrontPage

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spam.
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clintonG

That was a perfect example of making bullsh!t smell like roses Murray.
Do you work around shirts and ties?

DreamWeaver used with Flash has earned the distinction of assisting
people to create wow factor web sites. Those applications require
discipline to learn and master as any other application noting that
Macromedia has made great strides in making it possible for
neophytes to acquire Flash page templates that can be used for an
entire site. Google: "flash"+"page templates"

I imagine some of the Flash template authors also support FrontPage
but as a rule, Dreamweaver and Flash have attracted the lion's share
of 3rd party developers. There are hundreds of 'extensions' that can
be described as plug and play push-button monkey coding -- just
like FrontPage whose 3rd party choices are much fewer in number
which in conclusion also affects the quality of what is available as there
are less creative and talented developers working with FrontPage
than there are for Dreamweaver and Flash which are both also used
in the schools that are pumping out graduates.

Those are the unembellished facts.

Where Microsost has failed and Macromedia has succeeded is in
recognizing that things change over time, software must be designed and
re-designed in a timely manner to meet the contemporary reaquirements
of the customer and most importantly over that same period of time the
customer does not neccessarily remain a dummy either. They change too.
We all change.

Those are my embellished opinions.

--
<%= Clinton Gallagher, "Twice the Results -- Half the Cost"
Architectural & e-Business Consulting -- Software Development
NET (e-mail address removed)
URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/
 
M

Murray

LOL. Never wear them.

I don't really approve of corporate sites built with Flash. Some sites have
a need for it, like Nike, or BMW, but the average surfer sees through that
facade and can recognize a Flash smoke screen when they see it. Remember
that most people still surf the web to get information, not to have a
multimedia experience.

An all Flash site will a) discriminate against those who for whatever reason
do not have the Flash plugin installed (and despite the massive penetration
that broad-brush statistics show, there are still plenty of them), and b)
not be spiderable (particularly if the navigation elements are included in
the Flash) (except that Google is now beginning to scan the decompiled
script). What's worse is, it'll probably LOOK like a Flash template, and my
guess is that the OP wants something more 'branded'.

There would be no substitute for training here, I believe.
 
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Steve Easton

For those people who want to create "eye candy" yes.
If I want to see a movie, I go either Block Buster or the theater.

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer
 
K

Kevin Spencer

Now, Steve, you might be surprised what Flash can do that is NOT
"eye-candy." For example, at my company's commercial site
http://www.airtraveler.com, we have a page for viewing FAA METAR (weather)
data. METAR data is encoded in a kind of shorthand. I wrote a .Net class
that parses METAR data and a Server Control for displaying the parsed data
in one of 3 formats: raw, plain English, and graphical. The graphical Server
Control uses a combination of ASP.Net and a swf to display a graphical
depiction of the weather data, including a compass indicating wind
direction, a background image of the weather, a runway diagram of the
airport where the report originated, and icons and text for other weather
data.

Sometimes, a graphical depiction of data is more user-friendly than text. We
use swfs for displaying data graphically, as they are more cross-platform
compatible than ActiveX controls.

Now, if it's only "eye-candy" I can see the point. However, not everything
graphical is "eye-candy."

--
HTH,
Kevin Spencer
..Net Developer
Microsoft MVP
Big things are made up
of lots of little things.
 
M

Murray

Kevin:

I certainly agree with that. I also like very much the current interactive
Flash Electoral Vote tally map linked from the LA Times site (I think). But
this is very purpose-driven usage of Flash. My belief is that "WOW factor"
is not a valid purpose in this case! 8)
 
S

Steve Easton

I agree. I've seen some excellent sites that use Flash. However imho they're few and far between.
My pet peeve is the "Please wait loading" you get waiting for Flash Intro's when you open a site.
Unless it's something I'm "really" interested, I tend to click the X and close the site.

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer
 

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