double side business cards

[Michael]

Hi,

Without realizing it I bought some "double sided" business card paper
today - you print it and then fold it over and the self-adhesive
sticks the two sides together ..

I have a use for this but don't know how to print (or set up) the two
sides separately. Funnily enough I had a small program which I can no
longer find which enabled me to do this easily. I just clicked on the
cards that I wanted to print.

Hopefully it will be just as easy in Publisher ?

thanks for the help,

Michael

 

[Mike Hall]

Look for the make of paper and go to their website to get a template for
it..

 

[Mary Sauer]

What are the dimensions of the paper? How many cards are on each sheet? The setup
would be about the same as a tent card.

 

[Michael]

Thank you Mike thank you Mary,

Sorry, I obviously didn't explain this very well. There are ten cards
per page - 5 in the left column and 5 in the right. I can print all
ten cards without any problem but I want different information in the
two columns. One language on the left and another on the right.

Then when I fold and stick the two halves togther, one language will
be on the front and another on the back.

I don't know what a "tent" card is but it sound similar - little
folded one the the desk

Mike

 

[Mary Sauer]

You will have to set this up manually...
Brian has templates
http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=38

 

[Michael]

thanks Mary,

seems unbelievable that Publisher doesn't just allow one to click on
the cards that one wants to print - $10 progams allow this ?!

Anyway, upwards and onwards - I purchased from Office Depot.

25 x A4 25 (85x54 mm)

A4 (210x297mm)

Do you have any idea which template I should download ?

I would be happy to set this up manually but I sense a lot of
necessary "help"

thanks

Mike

 

[Mary Sauer]

My eyes sort of glaze over when I try to convert UK paper... I can do the cards, but
I don't know the margin allowances.
Avery UK has templates for Publisher 2000.
http://www.avery.co.uk/uk1/downloads/template.jsp
If you go to the Avery web site and input the product number, they may have a
template for you.
Avery also has a downloadable wizard, free.
http://www.avery.co.uk/uk1/downloads/wizzard.jsp

 

[Michael]

I don't mind experimenting with the sizes and margins etc. but was is
the basic way of setting up double sided or "tent" cards ?

thanks

Mike

P.S. I'm anglo/american working in Israel and they use a4 here - and
240 volts

 

[Mary Sauer]

The way you describe these cards they are side by side, the need for a tent setup is
not needed.

The way I would set this up follows:
Custom size, whatever the width of the card times two, the height would be the
standard height of your business card. Click "change copies per sheet", set the
margins to the margin size on the cardstock, set the horizontal and vertical gaps to
zero. There will be five cards showing. This puts one wide card on your screen. In
the arrange menu set the margins to zero, select two columns in the grid guides.

 

[Michael]

thanks for your patience

Where do I find "change copies per sheet" - it's not under "custom
options".

thanks,

Mike

 

[Mary Sauer]

Okay Mike, it is time for me to ask that magic question, what version Publisher are
you using? The "change copies per sheet" is on the file, page setup in 2002-03
versions.
If you are using 2000 and below, click "page options" when you are ready to print,
click "custom options" in the next dialogue. The instructions for margins and gaps in
the earlier post apply.

 

[Ed Bennett]

While waiting for decisions from his 6 university choices, Ed sees a

My eyes sort of glaze over when I try to convert UK paper...

That would be "non-US paper"?
Or International-Standard paper?

 

[Mary Sauer]

Who knows! My schooling let me down when it comes to the metric system. Mike from
Canada directed me to a site for paper conversions, I've attached it the wall... My
problem comes in when I don't know the default margins for the International-Standard
templates. My business cards have a .5 top margin and .75 side margin, this knowledge
has absolutely no value for folks like Michael.

 

[Mike Hall]

Yo Mary

I worked out a long time ago that if you use UK/Euro paper sizes, Avery
templates and Avery paper, the results will be really quite good.. applying
those same criteria but using "non-UK/Euro" paper sizes, the results are
really quite good..

For sure, Avery products are a little more expensive maybe, but the ease
with which one can use them makes up for any increased cost.. it also makes
up for deficiencies in schooling, essentially getting over the problem for
the need to convert anything..

Best to buy specialized paper that has a template included or available on a
website somewhere..

So, come on folks, do the sensible thing and quit making Mary do complex
conversions..

PS.. Mary, you might know the answer to this.. in a country where biggest is
always seen to be best, why is it that the US gallon is less by volume than
a proper gallon?..

77's and 88's

Mike (from Canada)

 

[Michael]

2000.

I don't know why this whole thing seems so complicated when what I
want to do should be quite easy.

I don't see how your earlier post about doubling the size of the card
will help because if you remember I want to have one language on the
front of the card and another on the back.

I have investigated using a "tent" card but I don't think that that
will work either.

What I used to do with another program (which I can no longer find)
was to set up the page like I have done in Publisher with 5 cards on
the left and 5 on the right (all the same) but just select the 5 on
the left for printing. Then I'd just save and rename the file - change
the text to whatever language I wanted - put the paper with the five
printed cards back in the printer and tell the program to only print
the 5 cards on the right.

I feel sure that Publisher must be able to do this.

Can it ?

thanks

Mike

 

[Mike Hall]

Michael

Sometimes, you have to be a little inventive.. that is half the fun of it
all.. the point where the printed page finally equals or exceeds
expectations..

In the last two days, I made up a greeting card in Publisher for the
contest.. I gathered all of the elements in the workspace and set about
placing them.. finally a finished card to send to competition headquarters..
if only life was that simple.. size on the disk was monstrous and no way was
my e-mail going to send it.. I removed elements of the design, but that took
some away from it.. I substituted a colour photo with clipart, but the file
size just grew..

Eventually, having almost thought "Nuts - I don't need this .. ", I
remembered that a good way to reduce the size of a layered design is to
'select all' and save as one pic.. so that's what I did.. saved the front,
middle and back design as three pics, rebuilt the card with them.. hey
presto.. an e-mailable size at last..

If you want to send a design in, go here..
http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=103

Final entries by Dec 17th, 2004 and Mary is a judge, I believe..


Mike Hall