Downloaded Office 2007 but it didn't come with Outlook (Why not?)

Discussion in 'Outlook General' started by jan, Sep 17, 2013.

  1. jan

    jan Guest

    My kid is spending his junior year overseas, but I put MS Office 2007
    from my CDROM onto his hard disk a few years ago. Now his disk crashed.

    I figured it would be no problem to download the MS Office 2007 Home and
    Student software (since I have a valid retail product key), and it wasn't
    any problem to download Office 2007 Home and Student from
    http://office.microsoft.com/backup

    So, my kid downloads office, after entering his product key, and lo and
    behold, the download from Microsoft is *missing* Outlook 2007. Huh?

    Does anyone know how to get a legit MS Outlook backup download?
     
    jan, Sep 17, 2013
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  2. jan

    BobbyM Guest

    On 9/17/2013 8:30 AM, jan wrote:
    > My kid is spending his junior year overseas, but I put MS Office 2007
    > from my CDROM onto his hard disk a few years ago. Now his disk crashed.
    >
    > I figured it would be no problem to download the MS Office 2007 Home and
    > Student software (since I have a valid retail product key), and it wasn't
    > any problem to download Office 2007 Home and Student from
    > http://office.microsoft.com/backup
    >
    > So, my kid downloads office, after entering his product key, and lo and
    > behold, the download from Microsoft is *missing* Outlook 2007. Huh?
    >
    > Does anyone know how to get a legit MS Outlook backup download?


    According to this chart, Home & Student is the only version that doesn't
    come with Outlook:
    http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=380
     
    BobbyM, Sep 17, 2013
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  3. jan

    Yrrah Guest

    jan <>:

    > but I put MS Office 2007


    Off topic in 'alt.comp.freeware'.

    Yrrah
     
    Yrrah, Sep 17, 2013
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  4. jan

    ...winston Guest

    MSFT Office 2007 Home and Student does not (nor has it ever) included
    Outlook.

    If you installed 2007 H/S it didn't install Outlook.

    Are you certain you didn't originally (a few years ago) install a different
    version of Office.

    Outlook 2007 is included on the following Office 2007 editions
    Standard, Small Business, Professional, Professional Plus, Ultimate, and
    Enterprise

    The only other method (if not installing one of the above editions
    containing OL2007) to install OL2007 is to have installed the stand-alone
    program which would have come with a unique product key for OL2007.



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    "jan" wrote in message news:l184a5$iom$...

    My kid is spending his junior year overseas, but I put MS Office 2007
    from my CDROM onto his hard disk a few years ago. Now his disk crashed.

    I figured it would be no problem to download the MS Office 2007 Home and
    Student software (since I have a valid retail product key), and it wasn't
    any problem to download Office 2007 Home and Student from
    http://office.microsoft.com/backup

    So, my kid downloads office, after entering his product key, and lo and
    behold, the download from Microsoft is *missing* Outlook 2007. Huh?

    Does anyone know how to get a legit MS Outlook backup download?
     
    ...winston, Sep 17, 2013
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  5. On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 23:30:13 +0000 (UTC), jan <> wrote:

    >My kid is spending his junior year overseas, but I put MS Office 2007
    >from my CDROM onto his hard disk a few years ago. Now his disk crashed.
    >
    >I figured it would be no problem to download the MS Office 2007 Home and
    >Student software (since I have a valid retail product key), and it wasn't
    >any problem to download Office 2007 Home and Student from
    >http://office.microsoft.com/backup
    >
    >So, my kid downloads office, after entering his product key, and lo and
    >behold, the download from Microsoft is *missing* Outlook 2007. Huh?
    >
    >Does anyone know how to get a legit MS Outlook backup download?


    Are you sure you don't mean Outlook Express? What was the crashed OS?
    What OS is he now using?

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    p-0''0-h the cat (ES), Sep 17, 2013
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  6. jan

    VanguardLH Guest

    Note: None of the components or the entire suite of any Office version
    is freeware hence jan's post is off-topic to the alt.comp.FREEware
    newsgroup.

    Note: Not an issue with Windows 7 or any version or edition of Windows
    hence jan's post is also off-topic that that newsgroup.

    FollowUp-To was set to microsoft.public.outlook -- the only newsgroup
    where jan's post was on-topic.

    Don't shotgun your inquiries across UNRELATED newsgroups where it is
    spam or, at least, off-topic noise.


    jan wrote:

    > download the MS Office 2007 Home and Student from office.microsoft.com/backup
    > the download from Microsoft is *missing* Outlook 2007.


    "Home and Student". You expected the low-end *Home* edition to have
    everything? Presumably you distributed one of your licenses from a
    multi-license volume pack or you happen to have an Office 2007 Home &
    Student install CD sitting around that you never used to install it on
    your own computer so your kid didn't end up with a pirated copy. It was
    an unused full *retail* license and not an OEM license? Why were you
    surprised that your kid was missing the same components (Outlook, in
    this case) that you are also missing?

    The Home edition of Office 2007 does NOT come with Outlook. Look here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_2007
    (scroll down to the colored matrix chart)

    Different editions have different sets of components and features.

    > Does anyone know how to get a legit MS Outlook backup download?


    I only know of the *Office* backup downloads. I haven't seen a
    standalone Outlook backup download. Some possible solutions are:

    - Buy a standalone license of Outlook 2007 (~$140).
    - Buy something other than the "Home and Student" edition of Office
    2007/2010/2013 (~$190 for Pro OEM).
    - Use an older version of Office that does include Outlook and ONLY
    install the Outlook component from it. This means integration
    features will NOT function, like Mail Merge or using Word as the
    new-mail compose editor in Outlook.
    (I'm using Outlook 2003 with Office 2010 Home & Student.)
    - Use an e-mail client from a different software vendor. Examples: free
    Thunderbird with the Lightning add-on for calendaring or EssentialPIM
    (free and pay versions)
    - Use the webmail interface to their e-mail provider.
    - If included, use the mail client that came with Windows.
     
    VanguardLH, Sep 17, 2013
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  7. jan

    jan Guest

    Re: Downloaded Office 2007 but it didn't come with Outlook (Whynot?)

    On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:35:21 +0100, p-0''0-h the cat (ES) wrote:

    > Are you sure you don't mean Outlook Express? What was the crashed OS?
    > What OS is he now using?


    I do mean Outlook (OE freeware stinks).
    Crashed OS was Windows 7.
    New OS is Windows 7.
     
    jan, Sep 18, 2013
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  8. jan

    jan Guest

    Re: Downloaded Office 2007 but it didn't come with Outlook (Whynot?)

    On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 02:19:02 +0200, Yrrah wrote:

    > Off topic in 'alt.comp.freeware'.


    That's where I found all my information for how to download
    MS Office.

    It wasn't in the microsoft newsgroups but it was recently
    in the freeware newsgroup.
     
    jan, Sep 18, 2013
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  9. On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 00:18:45 +0000 (UTC), jan <> wrote:

    >On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:35:21 +0100, p-0''0-h the cat (ES) wrote:
    >
    >> Are you sure you don't mean Outlook Express? What was the crashed OS?
    >> What OS is he now using?

    >
    >I do mean Outlook (OE freeware stinks).
    >Crashed OS was Windows 7.
    >New OS is Windows 7.


    Well if Outlook doesn't come with your version of Office and you haven't
    got a separate copy the only other thing I can think of is it comes
    bundled with certain versions of Exchange. So perhaps you downloaded it
    from work, or from a hosted Exchange provider.

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    p-0''0-h the cat (ES), Sep 18, 2013
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  10. jan

    jan Guest

    Re: Downloaded Office 2007 but it didn't come with Outlook (Whynot?)

    On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 01:29:07 +0100, p-0''0-h the cat (ES) wrote:

    > So perhaps you downloaded it
    > from work, or from a hosted Exchange provider.


    I'm trying to find the disk as we speak, so that I can figure out
    myself HOW I got MS Office on there in the first place.

    I just had "assumed" that it was on my Office 2007 disc but, you've
    proven that it wasn't; so now I have to find that disc first to be
    sure.
     
    jan, Sep 18, 2013
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  11. jan

    Yrrah Guest

    jan <>:

    > I do mean Outlook (OE freeware stinks).


    Why do you post this in a _freeware_ newsgroup?

    Yrrah
     
    Yrrah, Sep 18, 2013
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  12. jan

    Yrrah Guest

    jan <>:

    > I just had "assumed" that it was on my Office 2007 disc but, you've


    Why do you post this in a _freeware_ newsgroup?

    Yrrah
     
    Yrrah, Sep 18, 2013
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  13. jan

    jan Guest

    Re: Downloaded Office 2007 but it didn't come with Outlook (Whynot?)

    On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 23:30:13 +0000, jan wrote:

    > I figured it would be no problem to download the MS Office 2007 Home and
    > Student software (since I have a valid retail product key), and it wasn't
    > any problem to download Office 2007 Home and Student from
    > http://office.microsoft.com/backup


    I found another Office 2007 Home & Student download site at:
    http://www.microsoft.com/office/downloads/hs/

    But, in the end, I must have had on the kid's computer an older version of
    Microsoft Office 2003 Student & Teacher Edition.

    Googling for how he can legitimately download this, I find it (again)
    in alt.comp.freeware and NOT in the microsoft newsgroups (go figure),
    so, it seems the freeware folks know Microsoft better than the Microsoft
    folks themselves.

    I found, in alt.comp.freeware, this link:
    http://preview.tinyurl.com/m9ggpua
    Which took me to Microsoft Support which took me to the download for Office 2003 T&S;
    http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/2/3/6233A257-16BD-4C8D-BF4C-6FA59AF9213A/OfficeSTD.exe

    This Office version does seem to come with Outlook, so, does it make
    sense for me to have my kid download that instead?
     
    jan, Sep 18, 2013
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  14. jan

    jan Guest

    Re: Downloaded Office 2007 but it didn't come with Outlook (Whynot?)

    On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:43:56 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

    > Note: None of the components or the entire suite of any Office version is
    > freeware hence jan's post is off-topic to the alt.comp.FREEware newsgroup.


    This is true, but, interestingly, the ONLY place I found all the answers
    was in alt.comp.freeware!

    None of the Microsoft groups had the answer; but, a search in alt.comp.freeware
    found the legitimate way to download, for free, both Microsoft Office
    2007 Home and Student (from microsoft's web site) and Microsoft Office
    2003 Student and Teacher Edition.

    In addition, the Outlook guys didn't tell me that 2007 didn't contain
    Outlook; the freeware guys did.

    So, while it may be the wrong group, the freeware group rocks!
     
    jan, Sep 18, 2013
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  15. jan

    jan Guest

    Re: Downloaded Office 2007 but it didn't come with Outlook (Whynot?)

    On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 15:28:17 +0200, Yrrah wrote:

    > Why do you post this in a _freeware_ newsgroup?


    Because, when I had searched, ONLY the freeware group knew WHERE
    to find the Microsoft downloads for Office 2003 and for Office 2007!

    None of my searches in the outlook and windows groups uncovered
    the Microsoft URLs to the 2003 Office S&T edition, for example.

    Yet, the URL was found in the freeware group.

    I suspect the freeware folks are more sophisticated than the
    Microsoft folks, who only seem to know how to buy a CD from
    the Microsoft Store, but, not how to back it up or save a
    download for future use.
     
    jan, Sep 18, 2013
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  16. jan

    jan Guest

    Re: Downloaded Office 2007 but it didn't come with Outlook (Whynot?)

    On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 15:27:07 +0200, Yrrah wrote:

    > Why do you post this in a _freeware_ newsgroup?


    Isn't it considered 'freeware' the additional stuff that comes,
    for free, like IE and OE, with the operating system?
     
    jan, Sep 18, 2013
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  17. jan

    ...winston Guest

    jan wrote:
    > On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 15:27:07 +0200, Yrrah wrote:
    >
    >> Why do you post this in a _freeware_ newsgroup?

    >
    > Isn't it considered 'freeware' the additional stuff that comes,
    > for free, like IE and OE, with the operating system?
    >


    OE originally was included as part of IE4 (circa 1997). Thereafter it
    was included in Windows up to Windows XP.
    - i.e. it's not freeware but a Windows component

    Outlook is not free-ware either....included with specific editions of
    Office or as a stand-alone (purchased) program.


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    msft mvp consumer apps
     
    ...winston, Sep 18, 2013
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  18. jan

    ...winston Guest

    jan wrote:
    > On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 23:30:13 +0000, jan wrote:
    >
    >> I figured it would be no problem to download the MS Office 2007 Home and
    >> Student software (since I have a valid retail product key), and it wasn't
    >> any problem to download Office 2007 Home and Student from
    >> http://office.microsoft.com/backup

    >
    > I found another Office 2007 Home & Student download site at:
    > http://www.microsoft.com/office/downloads/hs/
    >
    > But, in the end, I must have had on the kid's computer an older version of
    > Microsoft Office 2003 Student & Teacher Edition.
    >
    > Googling for how he can legitimately download this, I find it (again)
    > in alt.comp.freeware and NOT in the microsoft newsgroups (go figure),
    > so, it seems the freeware folks know Microsoft better than the Microsoft
    > folks themselves.
    >
    > I found, in alt.comp.freeware, this link:
    > http://preview.tinyurl.com/m9ggpua
    > Which took me to Microsoft Support which took me to the download for Office 2003 T&S;
    > http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/2/3/6233A257-16BD-4C8D-BF4C-6FA59AF9213A/OfficeSTD.exe
    >
    > This Office version does seem to come with Outlook, so, does it make
    > sense for me to have my kid download that instead?
    >

    You've previously stated your Office was 2007. The tinyurl link you
    provided appears to be for Office 2010 yet the redirect to the MSFT
    Answers Office 2010 forum indicates a thread title of Office 2003.

    - i.e. your 2007 product key won't work for a different version

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    ...winston, Sep 18, 2013
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  19. jan

    ~BD~ Guest

    jan <> wrote:
    > On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:43:56 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:
    >
    >> Note: None of the components or the entire suite of any Office version is
    >> freeware hence jan's post is off-topic to the alt.comp.FREEware newsgroup.

    >
    > This is true, but, interestingly, the ONLY place I found all the answers
    > was in alt.comp.freeware!
    >
    > None of the Microsoft groups had the answer; but, a search in alt.comp.freeware
    > found the legitimate way to download, for free, both Microsoft Office
    > 2007 Home and Student (from microsoft's web site) and Microsoft Office
    > 2003 Student and Teacher Edition.
    >
    > In addition, the Outlook guys didn't tell me that 2007 didn't contain
    > Outlook; the freeware guys did.
    >
    > So, while it may be the wrong group, the freeware group rocks!


    Microsoft Usenet groups 'closed' some years ago, Jan.

    This is where to find answers nowadays:- http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us

    Btw, *I* like the freeware group too! :)
    --
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    ~BD~, Sep 18, 2013
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  20. On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:37:05 +0000 (UTC), jan <> wrote:

    > On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:43:56 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:
    >
    > > Note: None of the components or the entire suite of any Office version is
    > > freeware hence jan's post is off-topic to the alt.comp.FREEware newsgroup.

    >
    > This is true, but, interestingly, the ONLY place I found all the answers
    > was in alt.comp.freeware!
    >
    > None of the Microsoft groups had the answer; but, a search in alt.comp.freeware
    > found the legitimate way to download, for free, both Microsoft Office
    > 2007 Home and Student (from microsoft's web site) and Microsoft Office
    > 2003 Student and Teacher Edition.



    No version of Microsoft Office has ever been free, and if you found a
    way to download them, it is *not* legitimate.



    > In addition, the Outlook guys didn't tell me that 2007 didn't contain
    > Outlook; the freeware guys did.



    Then again they told you the wrong thing. Most editions of Microsoft
    Office 2000 *do* contain Outlook. It is only the Home and Student
    edition of Microsoft Office 2007 that doesn't.

    > So, while it may be the wrong group, the freeware group rocks!
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Sep 18, 2013
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