font problem

V

Vicky H

I've got a problem with speech marks not appearing in a document with a certain font.

The font I'm using is Abbey Old Style SF. If I type: "some text", (using shift+2 on my keyboard) the speech marks appear as small squares instead.

However I can go to Windows Character Map, choose Abbey Old Style font, select the quotation mark, copy it and paste it into the document and they appear!

I've just tried this, and I have the same problem in Word.

Please could someone enlighten me. I have to use this font in this document, and I'd rather not have to copy and paste every speech mark from the character map. I just want to be able to type it as normal!

I'm using Windows 2000 with MSOffice 2000.
Thanks.
 
J

JoAnn Paules

I downloaded that font to see if I could duplicate your efforts.

If I hit shift + 2, I do not get @ either. There is no character assigned to
that keystroke combination. If you want a quotation mark, use shift + ' just
like you would with any other font. Of course I'm assuming you are using the
average QWERTY keyboard......... (I know, wicked Anglo-centric attitude but
she didn't say that she was using any other sort of keyboard.)

Although I tested this in Pub 2003 I'm sure you will find that it carries
over into other Office programs.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



I've got a problem with speech marks not appearing in a document with a
certain font.

The font I'm using is Abbey Old Style SF. If I type: "some text", (using
shift+2 on my keyboard) the speech marks appear as small squares instead.

However I can go to Windows Character Map, choose Abbey Old Style font,
select the quotation mark, copy it and paste it into the document and they
appear!

I've just tried this, and I have the same problem in Word.

Please could someone enlighten me. I have to use this font in this
document, and I'd rather not have to copy and paste every speech mark from
the character map. I just want to be able to type it as normal!

I'm using Windows 2000 with MSOffice 2000.
Thanks.
 
M

Miss Perspicacia Tick

JoAnn said:
I downloaded that font to see if I could duplicate your efforts.

If I hit shift + 2, I do not get @ either. There is no character
assigned to that keystroke combination. If you want a quotation mark,
use shift + ' just like you would with any other font. Of course I'm
assuming you are using the average QWERTY keyboard......... (I know,
wicked Anglo-centric attitude but she didn't say that she was using
any other sort of keyboard.)
Although I tested this in Pub 2003 I'm sure you will find that it
carries over into other Office programs.

I have the same font installed and SHIFT+2 gives me speech/quote marks in
Publisher and every other application.
 
M

Miss Perspicacia Tick

JoAnn said:
Hmm, maybe there are two different fonts with the same name?


You're talking to a self-confessed fontaholic, so I'd stake a month's
benefit on 'no'.
 
J

JoAnn Paules

Even tho I think *I* have alot of fonts (713), you probably have a few more.
So why does the supposedly same font work differently on our systems?
 
J

JoAnn Paules

Good suggestion!!

Abbey Old Style SF
Altsys Fontographer 3.5 06/11/1994
Brendel Informatik & SoftMaker Software GmBH

What do you have Sarah?

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Don Schmidt said:
Jo & Sarah,

Maybe you two could click on the font in question in the fonts folder and
compare where they came from.

It seems reasonable that two creators could come up with the same name for
a
font. ????

We'll be standing by for the 5 o'clock news!<G>

--
Don
Vancouver, USA


JoAnn Paules said:
Even tho I think *I* have alot of fonts (713), you probably have a few more.
So why does the supposedly same font work differently on our systems?

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Miss Perspicacia Tick said:
JoAnn Paules wrote:
Hmm, maybe there are two different fonts with the same name?


You're talking to a self-confessed fontaholic, so I'd stake a month's
benefit on 'no'.
 
M

Miss Perspicacia Tick

JoAnn said:
Good suggestion!!

Abbey Old Style SF
Altsys Fontographer 3.5 06/11/1994
Brendel Informatik & SoftMaker Software GmBH

What do you have Sarah?

Abbey Old Style SF
Altsys Fontographer 3.5 06.11.1994
Copyright (c) 1990-1993 Brendel Informatik & SoftMaker Software GmbH.
All rights reserved.


So, that would be, erm, identical then...
 
J

JoAnn Paules

Well, I'm baffled. Do you have any clue why it works on your system and not
mine? Don't we have the same version of Windows and Office? (I have Win XP
Pro but I can't see that *that* matters.)
 
V

Vicky H

Thanks for all your comments. I've got the same font version too.

My Dad loaded the document onto his computer (running Win XP Pro and Office 2003) and the speech marks worked fine.

So I guess it's either Office 2000 that can't handle it, or Windows 2000 that can't?

What OS and version of office do you have?

--
Vicky
The best things come in small packages...


Don Schmidt said:
Maybe you two have different country keyboards? Or does it make a
difference????


--
Don
Vancouver, USA


JoAnn Paules said:
Well, I'm baffled. Do you have any clue why it works on your system and not
mine? Don't we have the same version of Windows and Office? (I have Win XP
Pro but I can't see that *that* matters.)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Miss Perspicacia Tick said:
JoAnn Paules wrote:
Good suggestion!!

Abbey Old Style SF
Altsys Fontographer 3.5 06/11/1994
Brendel Informatik & SoftMaker Software GmBH

What do you have Sarah?

Abbey Old Style SF
Altsys Fontographer 3.5 06.11.1994
Copyright (c) 1990-1993 Brendel Informatik & SoftMaker Software GmbH.
All rights reserved.


So, that would be, erm, identical then...
 
M

Miss Perspicacia Tick

JoAnn said:
Well, I'm baffled. Do you have any clue why it works on your system
and not mine? Don't we have the same version of Windows and Office?
(I have Win XP Pro but I can't see that *that* matters.)

As do I. XP Pro and Office 2003 Pro, fully updated.
 
M

Miss Perspicacia Tick

Vicky said:
Thanks for all your comments. I've got the same font version too.

My Dad loaded the document onto his computer (running Win XP Pro and
Office 2003) and the speech marks worked fine.

So I guess it's either Office 2000 that can't handle it, or Windows
2000 that can't?

What OS and version of office do you have?


Both Jo and I have the same versions of Windows and Office - XP Pro and
Office 2003 Pro.If my office wasn't such a tip, I'd dig out my (Office) 2000
discs - unfortunately the last system I had running (Windows) 2000 has since
been upgraded to XP.
 
J

JoAnn Paules

Windows XP Pro, Office 2003 - but I can try it in Word 2000 - hang
on.........................nope, doesn't work in Pub 2000 or Word 2000.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Thanks for all your comments. I've got the same font version too.

My Dad loaded the document onto his computer (running Win XP Pro and Office
2003) and the speech marks worked fine.

So I guess it's either Office 2000 that can't handle it, or Windows 2000
that can't?

What OS and version of office do you have?

--
Vicky
The best things come in small packages...


Don Schmidt said:
Maybe you two have different country keyboards? Or does it make a
difference????


--
Don
Vancouver, USA


JoAnn Paules said:
Well, I'm baffled. Do you have any clue why it works on your system and not
mine? Don't we have the same version of Windows and Office? (I have Win
XP
Pro but I can't see that *that* matters.)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Miss Perspicacia Tick said:
JoAnn Paules wrote:
Good suggestion!!

Abbey Old Style SF
Altsys Fontographer 3.5 06/11/1994
Brendel Informatik & SoftMaker Software GmBH

What do you have Sarah?

Abbey Old Style SF
Altsys Fontographer 3.5 06.11.1994
Copyright (c) 1990-1993 Brendel Informatik & SoftMaker Software GmbH.
All rights reserved.


So, that would be, erm, identical then...
 
M

Miss Perspicacia Tick

JoAnn said:
It's one of those "learn to accept it" things. <shrug>


Yep! Well I'm sitting here, tearing my hair out because my grandfather
*STILL* hasn't sent me the two grand he promised me over a week ago! I have
a job to complete, by the 1st, but I can't do anything without that money! I
have TEN DAYS to produce 100 packs of notelets, 600 cards and 1000 service
sheets for this damned memorial service! I daren't call him because I know
I'll just get my head bitten off (he's a cantankerous old git at the best of
times these days), but I can't buy anything without money, funnily enough!
Without the service sheets, the material cost is nearly £400.

I give up. I like to be able to pace myself, not have to rush a job in 48
hours! This is going to make me look incredibly inefficient in front of the
woman I'm doing the job for!

Sorry, didn't mean to rant, but I am not a happy bunny at the moment!
 
J

JoAnn Paules

"A happy bunny"? Never heard that expression before but I know the feelings.
And I can't believe a relative of sweet, even-tempered Sarah would be "a
cantankerous old git". <ducking for cover>
 
E

Erika

I can't believe a relative of sweet, even-tempered Sarah would be "a
cantankerous old git".

LOL
 
B

Budget Print Center

sorry so late to join the fray.

a couple of thoughts;

the font may be corrupt

the font may not support those marks at the size and tracking you have
set..try another size (usually larger).. also, is it view or do they print
like that also?

if you have force justify set for that line it can give issue as well

or... none of the above...

good luck

--
"Display tolerance & kindness to those with less
knowledge than you because there is ALWAYS
someone with more"


I've got a problem with speech marks not appearing in a document with a
certain font.

The font I'm using is Abbey Old Style SF. If I type: "some text", (using
shift+2 on my keyboard) the speech marks appear as small squares instead.

However I can go to Windows Character Map, choose Abbey Old Style font,
select the quotation mark, copy it and paste it into the document and they
appear!

I've just tried this, and I have the same problem in Word.

Please could someone enlighten me. I have to use this font in this
document, and I'd rather not have to copy and paste every speech mark from
the character map. I just want to be able to type it as normal!

I'm using Windows 2000 with MSOffice 2000.
Thanks.
 
E

Ed Bennett

A small child turns to Ed, and exclaims: "Look! Look! A post from JoAnn
Paules said:
"A happy bunny"? Never heard that expression before

It's a British thing, as is having quote marks on the 2 key (I'll post a
photo if you like)
 

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