help with frontpage

R

rszebras

I have a possible programming problem in my FrontPage html coding. Let me
give a brief background. I produce a monthly e-mail newsletter for our
company. It's designed in FrontPage, since my coding skills are negligible.
Once I have designed the newsletter I access the page in Internet Explorer,
select all, and copy. I then paste the contents into the e-mail and send to
our clients. I have had no problems using this method for two years. Here is
a link to the newsletter on our server:

http://www.vmar.net/email_july06.htm

Yesterday I completed the latest newsletter and tested it. Everyone has the
same problem viewing it using Outlook and Outlook Express -- half the images
are not displaying. If I advise our clients to turn off the block images
feature in the secutiry settings under options, it displays fine (so I know
it's not a problem with our server).

Here is the perplexing anomaly. Half the images display and the other half
don't with the image security feature turned on. For the past two years all
the images have displayed. Is the coding wrong? Now, for the kicker. With the
block images feature on in Outlook, the e-mail client usually displays a
message that says, "Some pictures have been blocked to help prevent the
sender from identifying your computer. Click here to download pictures." My
e-mail, however, doesn't give that warning. If it did, no problem. At least
our clients would know the message isn't displaying correctly.

Could someone give me some advice? Or if someone has a workaround that would
be appreciated, too. Although I have used the above method for two years
without problem.
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

This is not a FP issue, however you need to compare the image paths to images that display and those
that do not display in order to find the solution.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
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==============================================
 
R

rszebras

I'm not sure what you mean by "which images." If you mean the type, they are
gif. However, other gif images are displaying. Please keep in mind the page
displays properly in Internet Explorer, Mozilla, etc. I assume that means the
code is correct. I have been trying to analyze the code to look for
similarities with the images that are displaying in Outlook versus the images
that aren't displaying. What is interesting is that Outlook is supposed to
block images with the tag <img src=. It's not blocking those images.

It appears the common denominator for the blocked images is that those
images use the following tag: <td background=. Although I haven't completed
analyzing every image yet.

I'm going to post some code for anyone who wants to take a look at the
problem. As I mentioned I have no experience in html coding, which is why we
use FrontPage. But I can analyze the spit view and make sure the links are
valid, etc.
 
T

Tom Willett

She's asking "which images are not showing"

--
===
Tom Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
| I'm not sure what you mean by "which images." If you mean the type, they
are
| gif. However, other gif images are displaying. Please keep in mind the
page
| displays properly in Internet Explorer, Mozilla, etc. I assume that means
the
| code is correct. I have been trying to analyze the code to look for
| similarities with the images that are displaying in Outlook versus the
images
| that aren't displaying. What is interesting is that Outlook is supposed to
| block images with the tag <img src=. It's not blocking those images.
|
| It appears the common denominator for the blocked images is that those
| images use the following tag: <td background=. Although I haven't
completed
| analyzing every image yet.
|
| I'm going to post some code for anyone who wants to take a look at the
| problem. As I mentioned I have no experience in html coding, which is why
we
| use FrontPage. But I can analyze the spit view and make sure the links are
| valid, etc.
| --
| rszebras
|
|
| "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" wrote:
|
| > Which images are being blocked?
| >
| > --
| >
| > ~ Kathleen Anderson
| > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > Spider Web Woman Designs
| > web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
| > FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > >I have a possible programming problem in my FrontPage html coding. Let
me
| > > give a brief background. I produce a monthly e-mail newsletter for our
| > > company. It's designed in FrontPage, since my coding skills are
| > > negligible.
| > > Once I have designed the newsletter I access the page in Internet
| > > Explorer,
| > > select all, and copy. I then paste the contents into the e-mail and
send
| > > to
| > > our clients. I have had no problems using this method for two years.
Here
| > > is
| > > a link to the newsletter on our server:
| > >
| > > http://www.vmar.net/email_july06.htm
| > >
| > > Yesterday I completed the latest newsletter and tested it. Everyone
has
| > > the
| > > same problem viewing it using Outlook and Outlook Express -- half the
| > > images
| > > are not displaying. If I advise our clients to turn off the block
images
| > > feature in the secutiry settings under options, it displays fine (so I
| > > know
| > > it's not a problem with our server).
| > >
| > > Here is the perplexing anomaly. Half the images display and the other
half
| > > don't with the image security feature turned on. For the past two
years
| > > all
| > > the images have displayed. Is the coding wrong? Now, for the kicker.
With
| > > the
| > > block images feature on in Outlook, the e-mail client usually displays
a
| > > message that says, "Some pictures have been blocked to help prevent
the
| > > sender from identifying your computer. Click here to download
pictures."
| > > My
| > > e-mail, however, doesn't give that warning. If it did, no problem. At
| > > least
| > > our clients would know the message isn't displaying correctly.
| > >
| > > Could someone give me some advice? Or if someone has a workaround that
| > > would
| > > be appreciated, too. Although I have used the above method for two
years
| > > without problem.
| > > --
| > > rszebras
| >
| >
| >
 
R

rszebras

Here is some of the code I've copied from FrontPage. Not sure if I copied
everything that's relevant.

Here is code for images displaying correctly in Outlook, i.e., with the
block images security feature checked. Please remember that with the block
images feature turned off everything displays properly. But the issue is our
clients don't know that the message is not displaying correctly because the
window doesn't appear telling them to click here to display all images.

Displaying Correctly:

<img border="0" src="http://www.vmar.net/images/emailbanner.jpg" width="760"
height="113">

<img border="0" src="http://www.vmar.net/images/maintop_bnrcnt.gif"
width="44" height="27">

<img border="0" src="http://www.vmar.net/images/maintop_newscnt.gif"
width="10" height="27">

<img border="1" src="http://www.vmar.net/images/July06_Tire01_small.JPG"
xthumbnail-orig-image="http://www.vmar.net/images/July06_Tire01.JPG"
style="border: 1px solid #000000" align="right" hspace="3" vspace="6">

<img border="1" src="http://www.vmar.net/images/July06_Tire02_small.JPG"
xthumbnail-orig-image="http://www.vmar.net/images/July06_Tire02.JPG"
style="border: 1px solid #000000" align="right" hspace="3" vspace="6">

<img border="0" src="http://www.vmar.net/images/mainbtm_vbtncnt.gif"
width="10" height="27">

<img border="0" src="http://www.vmar.net/images/mainbtm_urlcnt.gif"
width="44" height="27">


Not Displaying Correctly

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse:
collapse" width="760" id="AutoNumber3" height="29">
<tr>
<td width="760" align="center"
background="http://www.vmar.net/images/bg_gbtn.gif">
</td>

<td width="286" background="http://www.vmar.net/images/maintop_bnr.gif">

<p align="right"> <font face="Verdana" color="#FFFFFF">Crash
Bytes (July
'06)</font><img border="0" src="http://www.vmar.net/images/blank.gif"
width="286" height="2"></td>

<td background="http://www.vmar.net/images/maintop_bg.gif" width="100%"> </td>

<td width="160" background="http://www.vmar.net/images/bg_green.gif">
 
R

rszebras

I can do better than tell you which images are not displaying correctly.
Click here to see what the image looks like in Outlook:
http://www.vmar.net/email_image.htm

Click here to see what the image is supposed to look like:
http://www.vmar.net/email_july06.htm
--
rszebras


Tom Willett said:
She's asking "which images are not showing"

--
===
Tom Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
| I'm not sure what you mean by "which images." If you mean the type, they
are
| gif. However, other gif images are displaying. Please keep in mind the
page
| displays properly in Internet Explorer, Mozilla, etc. I assume that means
the
| code is correct. I have been trying to analyze the code to look for
| similarities with the images that are displaying in Outlook versus the
images
| that aren't displaying. What is interesting is that Outlook is supposed to
| block images with the tag <img src=. It's not blocking those images.
|
| It appears the common denominator for the blocked images is that those
| images use the following tag: <td background=. Although I haven't
completed
| analyzing every image yet.
|
| I'm going to post some code for anyone who wants to take a look at the
| problem. As I mentioned I have no experience in html coding, which is why
we
| use FrontPage. But I can analyze the spit view and make sure the links are
| valid, etc.
| --
| rszebras
|
|
| "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" wrote:
|
| > Which images are being blocked?
| >
| > --
| >
| > ~ Kathleen Anderson
| > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > Spider Web Woman Designs
| > web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
| > FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > >I have a possible programming problem in my FrontPage html coding. Let
me
| > > give a brief background. I produce a monthly e-mail newsletter for our
| > > company. It's designed in FrontPage, since my coding skills are
| > > negligible.
| > > Once I have designed the newsletter I access the page in Internet
| > > Explorer,
| > > select all, and copy. I then paste the contents into the e-mail and
send
| > > to
| > > our clients. I have had no problems using this method for two years.
Here
| > > is
| > > a link to the newsletter on our server:
| > >
| > > http://www.vmar.net/email_july06.htm
| > >
| > > Yesterday I completed the latest newsletter and tested it. Everyone
has
| > > the
| > > same problem viewing it using Outlook and Outlook Express -- half the
| > > images
| > > are not displaying. If I advise our clients to turn off the block
images
| > > feature in the secutiry settings under options, it displays fine (so I
| > > know
| > > it's not a problem with our server).
| > >
| > > Here is the perplexing anomaly. Half the images display and the other
half
| > > don't with the image security feature turned on. For the past two
years
| > > all
| > > the images have displayed. Is the coding wrong? Now, for the kicker.
With
| > > the
| > > block images feature on in Outlook, the e-mail client usually displays
a
| > > message that says, "Some pictures have been blocked to help prevent
the
| > > sender from identifying your computer. Click here to download
pictures."
| > > My
| > > e-mail, however, doesn't give that warning. If it did, no problem. At
| > > least
| > > our clients would know the message isn't displaying correctly.
| > >
| > > Could someone give me some advice? Or if someone has a workaround that
| > > would
| > > be appreciated, too. Although I have used the above method for two
years
| > > without problem.
| > > --
| > > rszebras
| >
| >
| >
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

Suggest you post to the Outlook newsgroup as this is not a FP related issue, since the page displays
correctly on the web in a browser. The issue appears to be how Outlook doesn't display table/cell
background images.

You might consider just provide a link to the newsletter instead of sending the newsletter in an
email.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

rszebras said:
I can do better than tell you which images are not displaying correctly.
Click here to see what the image looks like in Outlook:
http://www.vmar.net/email_image.htm

Click here to see what the image is supposed to look like:
http://www.vmar.net/email_july06.htm
--
rszebras


Tom Willett said:
She's asking "which images are not showing"

--
===
Tom Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
| I'm not sure what you mean by "which images." If you mean the type, they
are
| gif. However, other gif images are displaying. Please keep in mind the
page
| displays properly in Internet Explorer, Mozilla, etc. I assume that means
the
| code is correct. I have been trying to analyze the code to look for
| similarities with the images that are displaying in Outlook versus the
images
| that aren't displaying. What is interesting is that Outlook is supposed to
| block images with the tag <img src=. It's not blocking those images.
|
| It appears the common denominator for the blocked images is that those
| images use the following tag: <td background=. Although I haven't
completed
| analyzing every image yet.
|
| I'm going to post some code for anyone who wants to take a look at the
| problem. As I mentioned I have no experience in html coding, which is why
we
| use FrontPage. But I can analyze the spit view and make sure the links are
| valid, etc.
| --
| rszebras
|
|
| "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" wrote:
|
| > Which images are being blocked?
| >
| > --
| >
| > ~ Kathleen Anderson
| > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > Spider Web Woman Designs
| > web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
| > FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > >I have a possible programming problem in my FrontPage html coding. Let
me
| > > give a brief background. I produce a monthly e-mail newsletter for our
| > > company. It's designed in FrontPage, since my coding skills are
| > > negligible.
| > > Once I have designed the newsletter I access the page in Internet
| > > Explorer,
| > > select all, and copy. I then paste the contents into the e-mail and
send
| > > to
| > > our clients. I have had no problems using this method for two years.
Here
| > > is
| > > a link to the newsletter on our server:
| > >
| > > http://www.vmar.net/email_july06.htm
| > >
| > > Yesterday I completed the latest newsletter and tested it. Everyone
has
| > > the
| > > same problem viewing it using Outlook and Outlook Express -- half the
| > > images
| > > are not displaying. If I advise our clients to turn off the block
images
| > > feature in the secutiry settings under options, it displays fine (so I
| > > know
| > > it's not a problem with our server).
| > >
| > > Here is the perplexing anomaly. Half the images display and the other
half
| > > don't with the image security feature turned on. For the past two
years
| > > all
| > > the images have displayed. Is the coding wrong? Now, for the kicker.
With
| > > the
| > > block images feature on in Outlook, the e-mail client usually displays
a
| > > message that says, "Some pictures have been blocked to help prevent
the
| > > sender from identifying your computer. Click here to download
pictures."
| > > My
| > > e-mail, however, doesn't give that warning. If it did, no problem. At
| > > least
| > > our clients would know the message isn't displaying correctly.
| > >
| > > Could someone give me some advice? Or if someone has a workaround that
| > > would
| > > be appreciated, too. Although I have used the above method for two
years
| > > without problem.
| > > --
| > > rszebras
| >
| >
| >
 
R

rszebras

I will post it on the Outlook forums. And thanks for your suggestion about
sending a link for clients to click on to view the newsletter. I will do that
as a last resort only. We spent a lot of time getting this newsletter up and
running nearly two years ago. And our company really doesn't want it changed.
Is it possible to make the table/cell background images source images?
--
rszebras


Thomas A. Rowe said:
Suggest you post to the Outlook newsgroup as this is not a FP related issue, since the page displays
correctly on the web in a browser. The issue appears to be how Outlook doesn't display table/cell
background images.

You might consider just provide a link to the newsletter instead of sending the newsletter in an
email.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

rszebras said:
I can do better than tell you which images are not displaying correctly.
Click here to see what the image looks like in Outlook:
http://www.vmar.net/email_image.htm

Click here to see what the image is supposed to look like:
http://www.vmar.net/email_july06.htm
--
rszebras


Tom Willett said:
She's asking "which images are not showing"

--
===
Tom Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
| I'm not sure what you mean by "which images." If you mean the type, they
are
| gif. However, other gif images are displaying. Please keep in mind the
page
| displays properly in Internet Explorer, Mozilla, etc. I assume that means
the
| code is correct. I have been trying to analyze the code to look for
| similarities with the images that are displaying in Outlook versus the
images
| that aren't displaying. What is interesting is that Outlook is supposed to
| block images with the tag <img src=. It's not blocking those images.
|
| It appears the common denominator for the blocked images is that those
| images use the following tag: <td background=. Although I haven't
completed
| analyzing every image yet.
|
| I'm going to post some code for anyone who wants to take a look at the
| problem. As I mentioned I have no experience in html coding, which is why
we
| use FrontPage. But I can analyze the spit view and make sure the links are
| valid, etc.
| --
| rszebras
|
|
| "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" wrote:
|
| > Which images are being blocked?
| >
| > --
| >
| > ~ Kathleen Anderson
| > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > Spider Web Woman Designs
| > web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
| > FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > >I have a possible programming problem in my FrontPage html coding. Let
me
| > > give a brief background. I produce a monthly e-mail newsletter for our
| > > company. It's designed in FrontPage, since my coding skills are
| > > negligible.
| > > Once I have designed the newsletter I access the page in Internet
| > > Explorer,
| > > select all, and copy. I then paste the contents into the e-mail and
send
| > > to
| > > our clients. I have had no problems using this method for two years.
Here
| > > is
| > > a link to the newsletter on our server:
| > >
| > > http://www.vmar.net/email_july06.htm
| > >
| > > Yesterday I completed the latest newsletter and tested it. Everyone
has
| > > the
| > > same problem viewing it using Outlook and Outlook Express -- half the
| > > images
| > > are not displaying. If I advise our clients to turn off the block
images
| > > feature in the secutiry settings under options, it displays fine (so I
| > > know
| > > it's not a problem with our server).
| > >
| > > Here is the perplexing anomaly. Half the images display and the other
half
| > > don't with the image security feature turned on. For the past two
years
| > > all
| > > the images have displayed. Is the coding wrong? Now, for the kicker.
With
| > > the
| > > block images feature on in Outlook, the e-mail client usually displays
a
| > > message that says, "Some pictures have been blocked to help prevent
the
| > > sender from identifying your computer. Click here to download
pictures."
| > > My
| > > e-mail, however, doesn't give that warning. If it did, no problem. At
| > > least
| > > our clients would know the message isn't displaying correctly.
| > >
| > > Could someone give me some advice? Or if someone has a workaround that
| > > would
| > > be appreciated, too. Although I have used the above method for two
years
| > > without problem.
| > > --
| > > rszebras
| >
| >
| >
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

I don't understand your question,
Is it possible to make the table/cell background images source images?


--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

rszebras said:
I will post it on the Outlook forums. And thanks for your suggestion about
sending a link for clients to click on to view the newsletter. I will do that
as a last resort only. We spent a lot of time getting this newsletter up and
running nearly two years ago. And our company really doesn't want it changed.
Is it possible to make the table/cell background images source images?
--
rszebras


Thomas A. Rowe said:
Suggest you post to the Outlook newsgroup as this is not a FP related issue, since the page
displays
correctly on the web in a browser. The issue appears to be how Outlook doesn't display table/cell
background images.

You might consider just provide a link to the newsletter instead of sending the newsletter in an
email.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

rszebras said:
I can do better than tell you which images are not displaying correctly.
Click here to see what the image looks like in Outlook:
http://www.vmar.net/email_image.htm

Click here to see what the image is supposed to look like:
http://www.vmar.net/email_july06.htm
--
rszebras


:

She's asking "which images are not showing"

--
===
Tom Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
| I'm not sure what you mean by "which images." If you mean the type, they
are
| gif. However, other gif images are displaying. Please keep in mind the
page
| displays properly in Internet Explorer, Mozilla, etc. I assume that means
the
| code is correct. I have been trying to analyze the code to look for
| similarities with the images that are displaying in Outlook versus the
images
| that aren't displaying. What is interesting is that Outlook is supposed to
| block images with the tag <img src=. It's not blocking those images.
|
| It appears the common denominator for the blocked images is that those
| images use the following tag: <td background=. Although I haven't
completed
| analyzing every image yet.
|
| I'm going to post some code for anyone who wants to take a look at the
| problem. As I mentioned I have no experience in html coding, which is why
we
| use FrontPage. But I can analyze the spit view and make sure the links are
| valid, etc.
| --
| rszebras
|
|
| "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" wrote:
|
| > Which images are being blocked?
| >
| > --
| >
| > ~ Kathleen Anderson
| > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > Spider Web Woman Designs
| > web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
| > FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > >I have a possible programming problem in my FrontPage html coding. Let
me
| > > give a brief background. I produce a monthly e-mail newsletter for our
| > > company. It's designed in FrontPage, since my coding skills are
| > > negligible.
| > > Once I have designed the newsletter I access the page in Internet
| > > Explorer,
| > > select all, and copy. I then paste the contents into the e-mail and
send
| > > to
| > > our clients. I have had no problems using this method for two years.
Here
| > > is
| > > a link to the newsletter on our server:
| > >
| > > http://www.vmar.net/email_july06.htm
| > >
| > > Yesterday I completed the latest newsletter and tested it. Everyone
has
| > > the
| > > same problem viewing it using Outlook and Outlook Express -- half the
| > > images
| > > are not displaying. If I advise our clients to turn off the block
images
| > > feature in the secutiry settings under options, it displays fine (so I
| > > know
| > > it's not a problem with our server).
| > >
| > > Here is the perplexing anomaly. Half the images display and the other
half
| > > don't with the image security feature turned on. For the past two
years
| > > all
| > > the images have displayed. Is the coding wrong? Now, for the kicker.
With
| > > the
| > > block images feature on in Outlook, the e-mail client usually displays
a
| > > message that says, "Some pictures have been blocked to help prevent
the
| > > sender from identifying your computer. Click here to download
pictures."
| > > My
| > > e-mail, however, doesn't give that warning. If it did, no problem. At
| > > least
| > > our clients would know the message isn't displaying correctly.
| > >
| > > Could someone give me some advice? Or if someone has a workaround that
| > > would
| > > be appreciated, too. Although I have used the above method for two
years
| > > without problem.
| > > --
| > > rszebras
| >
| >
| >
 
R

rszebras

I have finished analyzing the problem and all of the images that are
displaying use the following tag immediately preceding the link: <img src=>

Example: <img border="0" src="http://www.vmar.net/images/maintop_bnrcnt.gif"
width="44" height="27">

The ones that aren't displaying use the following tag immediately preceding
the link: <td background=>

Example: <td background="http://www.vmar.net/images/maintop_bg.gif"
width="100%">

So it seems clear to me now that the table/cell background images are the
ones not displaying properly.

Here's what the coding looks like:
<td width="44">
<img border="0" src="http://www.vmar.net/images/maintop_bnrcnt.gif"
width="44" height="27"></td>
<td background="http://www.vmar.net/images/maintop_bg.gif" width="100%"> </td>

So my question is this: Can I re-code the above example (and how) so the
second image has a <img src= tag?
--
rszebras


Thomas A. Rowe said:
I don't understand your question,
Is it possible to make the table/cell background images source images?


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==============================================
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rszebras said:
I will post it on the Outlook forums. And thanks for your suggestion about
sending a link for clients to click on to view the newsletter. I will do that
as a last resort only. We spent a lot of time getting this newsletter up and
running nearly two years ago. And our company really doesn't want it changed.
Is it possible to make the table/cell background images source images?
--
rszebras


Thomas A. Rowe said:
Suggest you post to the Outlook newsgroup as this is not a FP related issue, since the page
displays
correctly on the web in a browser. The issue appears to be how Outlook doesn't display table/cell
background images.

You might consider just provide a link to the newsletter instead of sending the newsletter in an
email.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

I can do better than tell you which images are not displaying correctly.
Click here to see what the image looks like in Outlook:
http://www.vmar.net/email_image.htm

Click here to see what the image is supposed to look like:
http://www.vmar.net/email_july06.htm
--
rszebras


:

She's asking "which images are not showing"

--
===
Tom Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
| I'm not sure what you mean by "which images." If you mean the type, they
are
| gif. However, other gif images are displaying. Please keep in mind the
page
| displays properly in Internet Explorer, Mozilla, etc. I assume that means
the
| code is correct. I have been trying to analyze the code to look for
| similarities with the images that are displaying in Outlook versus the
images
| that aren't displaying. What is interesting is that Outlook is supposed to
| block images with the tag <img src=. It's not blocking those images.
|
| It appears the common denominator for the blocked images is that those
| images use the following tag: <td background=. Although I haven't
completed
| analyzing every image yet.
|
| I'm going to post some code for anyone who wants to take a look at the
| problem. As I mentioned I have no experience in html coding, which is why
we
| use FrontPage. But I can analyze the spit view and make sure the links are
| valid, etc.
| --
| rszebras
|
|
| "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" wrote:
|
| > Which images are being blocked?
| >
| > --
| >
| > ~ Kathleen Anderson
| > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > Spider Web Woman Designs
| > web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
| > FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > >I have a possible programming problem in my FrontPage html coding. Let
me
| > > give a brief background. I produce a monthly e-mail newsletter for our
| > > company. It's designed in FrontPage, since my coding skills are
| > > negligible.
| > > Once I have designed the newsletter I access the page in Internet
| > > Explorer,
| > > select all, and copy. I then paste the contents into the e-mail and
send
| > > to
| > > our clients. I have had no problems using this method for two years.
Here
| > > is
| > > a link to the newsletter on our server:
| > >
| > > http://www.vmar.net/email_july06.htm
| > >
| > > Yesterday I completed the latest newsletter and tested it. Everyone
has
| > > the
| > > same problem viewing it using Outlook and Outlook Express -- half the
| > > images
| > > are not displaying. If I advise our clients to turn off the block
images
| > > feature in the secutiry settings under options, it displays fine (so I
| > > know
| > > it's not a problem with our server).
| > >
| > > Here is the perplexing anomaly. Half the images display and the other
half
| > > don't with the image security feature turned on. For the past two
years
| > > all
| > > the images have displayed. Is the coding wrong? Now, for the kicker.
With
| > > the
| > > block images feature on in Outlook, the e-mail client usually displays
a
| > > message that says, "Some pictures have been blocked to help prevent
the
| > > sender from identifying your computer. Click here to download
pictures."
| > > My
| > > e-mail, however, doesn't give that warning. If it did, no problem. At
| > > least
| > > our clients would know the message isn't displaying correctly.
| > >
| > > Could someone give me some advice? Or if someone has a workaround that
| > > would
| > > be appreciated, too. Although I have used the above method for two
years
| > > without problem.
| > > --
| > > rszebras
| >
| >
| >
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

You would have to redo your design/images so that you are working with a single image in each cell
or you will have to link to the newsletter directly on the web site from your email.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

rszebras said:
I have finished analyzing the problem and all of the images that are
displaying use the following tag immediately preceding the link: <img src=>

Example: <img border="0" src="http://www.vmar.net/images/maintop_bnrcnt.gif"
width="44" height="27">

The ones that aren't displaying use the following tag immediately preceding
the link: <td background=>

Example: <td background="http://www.vmar.net/images/maintop_bg.gif"
width="100%">

So it seems clear to me now that the table/cell background images are the
ones not displaying properly.

Here's what the coding looks like:
<td width="44">
<img border="0" src="http://www.vmar.net/images/maintop_bnrcnt.gif"
width="44" height="27"></td>
<td background="http://www.vmar.net/images/maintop_bg.gif" width="100%"> </td>

So my question is this: Can I re-code the above example (and how) so the
second image has a <img src= tag?
--
rszebras


Thomas A. Rowe said:
I don't understand your question,
Is it possible to make the table/cell background images source images?


--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

rszebras said:
I will post it on the Outlook forums. And thanks for your suggestion about
sending a link for clients to click on to view the newsletter. I will do that
as a last resort only. We spent a lot of time getting this newsletter up and
running nearly two years ago. And our company really doesn't want it changed.
Is it possible to make the table/cell background images source images?
--
rszebras


:

Suggest you post to the Outlook newsgroup as this is not a FP related issue, since the page
displays
correctly on the web in a browser. The issue appears to be how Outlook doesn't display
table/cell
background images.

You might consider just provide a link to the newsletter instead of sending the newsletter in
an
email.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

I can do better than tell you which images are not displaying correctly.
Click here to see what the image looks like in Outlook:
http://www.vmar.net/email_image.htm

Click here to see what the image is supposed to look like:
http://www.vmar.net/email_july06.htm
--
rszebras


:

She's asking "which images are not showing"

--
===
Tom Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
| I'm not sure what you mean by "which images." If you mean the type, they
are
| gif. However, other gif images are displaying. Please keep in mind the
page
| displays properly in Internet Explorer, Mozilla, etc. I assume that means
the
| code is correct. I have been trying to analyze the code to look for
| similarities with the images that are displaying in Outlook versus the
images
| that aren't displaying. What is interesting is that Outlook is supposed to
| block images with the tag <img src=. It's not blocking those images.
|
| It appears the common denominator for the blocked images is that those
| images use the following tag: <td background=. Although I haven't
completed
| analyzing every image yet.
|
| I'm going to post some code for anyone who wants to take a look at the
| problem. As I mentioned I have no experience in html coding, which is why
we
| use FrontPage. But I can analyze the spit view and make sure the links are
| valid, etc.
| --
| rszebras
|
|
| "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" wrote:
|
| > Which images are being blocked?
| >
| > --
| >
| > ~ Kathleen Anderson
| > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > Spider Web Woman Designs
| > web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
| > FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > >I have a possible programming problem in my FrontPage html coding. Let
me
| > > give a brief background. I produce a monthly e-mail newsletter for our
| > > company. It's designed in FrontPage, since my coding skills are
| > > negligible.
| > > Once I have designed the newsletter I access the page in Internet
| > > Explorer,
| > > select all, and copy. I then paste the contents into the e-mail and
send
| > > to
| > > our clients. I have had no problems using this method for two years.
Here
| > > is
| > > a link to the newsletter on our server:
| > >
| > > http://www.vmar.net/email_july06.htm
| > >
| > > Yesterday I completed the latest newsletter and tested it. Everyone
has
| > > the
| > > same problem viewing it using Outlook and Outlook Express -- half the
| > > images
| > > are not displaying. If I advise our clients to turn off the block
images
| > > feature in the secutiry settings under options, it displays fine (so I
| > > know
| > > it's not a problem with our server).
| > >
| > > Here is the perplexing anomaly. Half the images display and the other
half
| > > don't with the image security feature turned on. For the past two
years
| > > all
| > > the images have displayed. Is the coding wrong? Now, for the kicker.
With
| > > the
| > > block images feature on in Outlook, the e-mail client usually displays
a
| > > message that says, "Some pictures have been blocked to help prevent
the
| > > sender from identifying your computer. Click here to download
pictures."
| > > My
| > > e-mail, however, doesn't give that warning. If it did, no problem. At
| > > least
| > > our clients would know the message isn't displaying correctly.
| > >
| > > Could someone give me some advice? Or if someone has a workaround that
| > > would
| > > be appreciated, too. Although I have used the above method for two
years
| > > without problem.
| > > --
| > > rszebras
| >
| >
| >
 

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