how to draw picture like this?

[progame]

http://progame.6600.org/bbs/images/upload/2003/08/08/132409.gif

can visio do this job?
or other software?

 

[gabriel varela [MSFT]]

That looks like a simple enough drawing for Visio - you will need simply
play with the tool and select the correct Stencils for the figures. Check
out some samples here:

http://www.microsoft.com/office/visio/evaluation/indepth/samples.asp

 

[progame]

i have seen that page.
but these samples looks be different to the picture what i want.

 

[Randall Arnold]

Visio Professional has what you'll need, stencil wise. It's got a huge
library of all sorts, and there are plenty of free libraries online as well.

Randall Arnold

 

[Mark Nelson [MS]]

Let me clarify that this is a community forum, so MVPs and Microsoft
employees will not be answering every question. The intent is to have an
exchange of ideas between users of the software.

I am personally not aware of the output problem you describe. I was able to
export your drawing to GIF using Windows XP and Visio 2003. That seems to
point toward a Visio problem (that has possibly been corrected) rather than
a Windows problem. Visio 2000 uses a different export filter than Visio
2002 and Visio 2003. There is a chance that this problem is specific to
Visio 2000 or older versions.

--
Mark Nelson
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

This looked like a good opportunity to put Visio 2003 through its paces, so
I created a Visio drawing of this picture. It is [hopefully] attached

as

a
Visio 2002 format drawing. Any release of Visio (2000, 2002, 2003) and any
version of Visio (Std or Pro) could be used to generate this drawing.

(snip description)

I agree - a simple diagram if one has some familiarity with Visio.

Changing subject ; I gather it is acceptable to post binary samples here in
this NG. I would like to illustrate with very small files a problem with
Win XP Prof - Visio 2k "Save As" graphic files (eg gif, tif, jpg etc)
files, and "losing" symbol characters (omega, etc.)

I have posted previous queries but apparently MVPs and MSFT reps either
haven't seen it or don't grasp the significance.

Attached are 3 greek characters as VSD (Visio 2k) and GIF, running on Win XP
Prof. The VSD has the characters - the GIF and other graphics formats
don't. It is a WinXP glitch, not Visio. The same Visio version 2k saves
them correctly running on Win98SE.

Please have a look at them and play with them, on Win XP and Win98SE as
comparison. If there's a solution, I would like to hear it.

Thanks

Pemo

 

[Pemo]

Thank you Mark.

I understand the context of the NG, but you were not to know that, hence
your reminder. Of course MVPs/MS cannot reply to every query - only those
which are known and/or for which a known solution/alternative exists, or
which are sufficiently "out of the ordinary".

My only point in appealing to MVPs or MS people was that a specific problem
has arisen that may not previously have been noticed, as there is a degree
of arcanity about it.

No, not a Visio 2000 problem. Both Visio 2000 and Visio 2002 on Win98SE
render the symbol characters correctly. Visio 2000 and Visio 2002 on XP
Prof do NOT render the characters correctly. This problem only arose when I
started using a new computer with Win XP Prof.

When you say "> I was able to export your drawing to GIF using Windows XP
and Visio 2003." did it included rendering the Greek symbols correctly in
GIF? If so, it could be that Visio 2003 filter has fixed the Visio
2000/2002 / Win XP glitch.

My issue is that I draw many electrical/electronic diagrams in which Greek
symbols are de rigueur. I have used Visio Technical since Version 3 (long
pre-Microsoft) and am an ardent advocate for an excellent concept and
product. I might also add that this NG is an excellent forum.

Thanks

Pemo

 

[progame]

can you show your drawing to me?
i still can't draw the same effect.

This looked like a good opportunity to put Visio 2003 through its paces, so
I created a Visio drawing of this picture. It is [hopefully] attached as a
Visio 2002 format drawing. Any release of Visio (2000, 2002, 2003) and any
version of Visio (Std or Pro) could be used to generate this drawing.

I used the Detailed Network diagram template to start from, but really this
drawing could have been done with a Block Diagram template or without a
template at all. If you look at the Document Stencil, you'll see that I
used four Visio shapes and created the rest from rectangles that I drew.
Total drawing time: 20 minutes. I would estimate twice that time for
someone still learning to work with Visio shapes.

The key features that I used here were shape ordering to get the rectangles
behind each other correctly, keyboard nudge to position the rectangles
easily, connection points that I added to places where I want to glue lines
and finally connector formatting to change the connector routing styles and
set up arrowheads.

--
Mark Nelson
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Visio Professional has what you'll need, stencil wise. It's got a huge
library of all sorts, and there are plenty of free libraries online as well.

Randall Arnold

i have seen that page.
but these samples looks be different to the picture what i want.


"gabriel varela [MSFT]" <[email protected]> дÈëÏûÏ¢
That looks like a simple enough drawing for Visio - you will need simply
play with the tool and select the correct Stencils for the figures. Check
out some samples here:

http://www.microsoft.com/office/visio/evaluation/indepth/samples.asp

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.<<
Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions. <<
Please use these newsgroups. <<


http://progame.6600.org/bbs/images/upload/2003/08/08/132409.gif

can visio do this job?
or other software?

 

[progame]

and i think that the author of this drawing maybe use other software to do
this job.

This looked like a good opportunity to put Visio 2003 through its paces, so
I created a Visio drawing of this picture. It is [hopefully] attached as a
Visio 2002 format drawing. Any release of Visio (2000, 2002, 2003) and any
version of Visio (Std or Pro) could be used to generate this drawing.

I used the Detailed Network diagram template to start from, but really this
drawing could have been done with a Block Diagram template or without a
template at all. If you look at the Document Stencil, you'll see that I
used four Visio shapes and created the rest from rectangles that I drew.
Total drawing time: 20 minutes. I would estimate twice that time for
someone still learning to work with Visio shapes.

The key features that I used here were shape ordering to get the rectangles
behind each other correctly, keyboard nudge to position the rectangles
easily, connection points that I added to places where I want to glue lines
and finally connector formatting to change the connector routing styles and
set up arrowheads.

--
Mark Nelson
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Visio Professional has what you'll need, stencil wise. It's got a huge
library of all sorts, and there are plenty of free libraries online as well.

Randall Arnold

i have seen that page.
but these samples looks be different to the picture what i want.


"gabriel varela [MSFT]" <[email protected]> дÈëÏûÏ¢
That looks like a simple enough drawing for Visio - you will need simply
play with the tool and select the correct Stencils for the figures. Check
out some samples here:

http://www.microsoft.com/office/visio/evaluation/indepth/samples.asp

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.<<
Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions. <<
Please use these newsgroups. <<


http://progame.6600.org/bbs/images/upload/2003/08/08/132409.gif

can visio do this job?
or other software?

 

[John Marshall, MVP]

Mark had the Visio drawing attached to his message. Did you not see the
attachment or can you not open it? Which version of Visio are you running?

John... Visio MVP

Need stencils or ideas? http://www.mvps.org/visio/3rdparty.htm
Need VBA examples? http://www.mvps.org/visio/VBA.htm
Common Visio Questions http://www.mvps.org/visio/common_questions.htm

can you show your drawing to me?
i still can't draw the same effect.

This looked like a good opportunity to put Visio 2003 through its paces, so
I created a Visio drawing of this picture. It is [hopefully] attached

as

a
Visio 2002 format drawing. Any release of Visio (2000, 2002, 2003) and any
version of Visio (Std or Pro) could be used to generate this drawing.

I used the Detailed Network diagram template to start from, but really this
drawing could have been done with a Block Diagram template or without a
template at all. If you look at the Document Stencil, you'll see that I
used four Visio shapes and created the rest from rectangles that I drew.
Total drawing time: 20 minutes. I would estimate twice that time for
someone still learning to work with Visio shapes.

The key features that I used here were shape ordering to get the rectangles
behind each other correctly, keyboard nudge to position the rectangles
easily, connection points that I added to places where I want to glue lines
and finally connector formatting to change the connector routing styles and
set up arrowheads.

--
Mark Nelson
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Visio Professional has what you'll need, stencil wise. It's got a huge
library of all sorts, and there are plenty of free libraries online as well.

Randall Arnold

i have seen that page.
but these samples looks be different to the picture what i want.


"gabriel varela [MSFT]" <[email protected]> дÈëÏûÏ¢
That looks like a simple enough drawing for Visio - you will need simply
play with the tool and select the correct Stencils for the figures.
Check
out some samples here:

http://www.microsoft.com/office/visio/evaluation/indepth/samples.asp

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.<<
Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions. <<
Please use these newsgroups. <<


http://progame.6600.org/bbs/images/upload/2003/08/08/132409.gif

can visio do this job?
or other software?

 

[John Marshall, MVP]

Mark is an old timer at Visio and I can guarantee that he did use it for
this drawing.

John... Visio MVP

Need stencils or ideas? http://www.mvps.org/visio/3rdparty.htm
Need VBA examples? http://www.mvps.org/visio/VBA.htm
Common Visio Questions http://www.mvps.org/visio/common_questions.htm

and i think that the author of this drawing maybe use other software to do
this job.

This looked like a good opportunity to put Visio 2003 through its paces, so
I created a Visio drawing of this picture. It is [hopefully] attached

as

a
Visio 2002 format drawing. Any release of Visio (2000, 2002, 2003) and any
version of Visio (Std or Pro) could be used to generate this drawing.

I used the Detailed Network diagram template to start from, but really this
drawing could have been done with a Block Diagram template or without a
template at all. If you look at the Document Stencil, you'll see that I
used four Visio shapes and created the rest from rectangles that I drew.
Total drawing time: 20 minutes. I would estimate twice that time for
someone still learning to work with Visio shapes.

The key features that I used here were shape ordering to get the rectangles
behind each other correctly, keyboard nudge to position the rectangles
easily, connection points that I added to places where I want to glue lines
and finally connector formatting to change the connector routing styles and
set up arrowheads.

--
Mark Nelson
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Visio Professional has what you'll need, stencil wise. It's got a huge
library of all sorts, and there are plenty of free libraries online as well.

Randall Arnold

i have seen that page.
but these samples looks be different to the picture what i want.


"gabriel varela [MSFT]" <[email protected]> дÈëÏûÏ¢
That looks like a simple enough drawing for Visio - you will need simply
play with the tool and select the correct Stencils for the figures.
Check
out some samples here:

http://www.microsoft.com/office/visio/evaluation/indepth/samples.asp

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.<<
Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions. <<
Please use these newsgroups. <<


http://progame.6600.org/bbs/images/upload/2003/08/08/132409.gif

can visio do this job?
or other software?

 

[progame]

i can't save or open that attach file.

Mark is an old timer at Visio and I can guarantee that he did use it for
this drawing.

John... Visio MVP

Need stencils or ideas? http://www.mvps.org/visio/3rdparty.htm
Need VBA examples? http://www.mvps.org/visio/VBA.htm
Common Visio Questions http://www.mvps.org/visio/common_questions.htm

and i think that the author of this drawing maybe use other software to do
this job.

This looked like a good opportunity to put Visio 2003 through its

paces,
so

I created a Visio drawing of this picture. It is [hopefully] attached

as

a
Visio 2002 format drawing. Any release of Visio (2000, 2002, 2003)

and
any

version of Visio (Std or Pro) could be used to generate this drawing.

I used the Detailed Network diagram template to start from, but really this
drawing could have been done with a Block Diagram template or without a
template at all. If you look at the Document Stencil, you'll see that I
used four Visio shapes and created the rest from rectangles that I drew.
Total drawing time: 20 minutes. I would estimate twice that time for
someone still learning to work with Visio shapes.

The key features that I used here were shape ordering to get the rectangles
behind each other correctly, keyboard nudge to position the rectangles
easily, connection points that I added to places where I want to glue lines
and finally connector formatting to change the connector routing

styles
and

set up arrowheads.

--
Mark Nelson
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


Visio Professional has what you'll need, stencil wise. It's got a huge
library of all sorts, and there are plenty of free libraries online as
well.

Randall Arnold

i have seen that page.
but these samples looks be different to the picture what i want.


"gabriel varela [MSFT]" <[email protected]> дÈëÏûÏ¢
That looks like a simple enough drawing for Visio - you will need
simply
play with the tool and select the correct Stencils for the figures.
Check
out some samples here:

http://www.microsoft.com/office/visio/evaluation/indepth/samples.asp

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

confers
no

rights.<<
Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions. <<
Please use these newsgroups. <<


http://progame.6600.org/bbs/images/upload/2003/08/08/132409.gif

can visio do this job?
or other software?

 

[progame]

i can see that it have a attach file.
the button of open and save is disabled.

Mark is an old timer at Visio and I can guarantee that he did use it for
this drawing.

John... Visio MVP

Need stencils or ideas? http://www.mvps.org/visio/3rdparty.htm
Need VBA examples? http://www.mvps.org/visio/VBA.htm
Common Visio Questions http://www.mvps.org/visio/common_questions.htm

and i think that the author of this drawing maybe use other software to do
this job.

This looked like a good opportunity to put Visio 2003 through its

paces,
so

I created a Visio drawing of this picture. It is [hopefully] attached

as

a
Visio 2002 format drawing. Any release of Visio (2000, 2002, 2003)

and
any

version of Visio (Std or Pro) could be used to generate this drawing.

I used the Detailed Network diagram template to start from, but really this
drawing could have been done with a Block Diagram template or without a
template at all. If you look at the Document Stencil, you'll see that I
used four Visio shapes and created the rest from rectangles that I drew.
Total drawing time: 20 minutes. I would estimate twice that time for
someone still learning to work with Visio shapes.

The key features that I used here were shape ordering to get the rectangles
behind each other correctly, keyboard nudge to position the rectangles
easily, connection points that I added to places where I want to glue lines
and finally connector formatting to change the connector routing

styles
and

set up arrowheads.

--
Mark Nelson
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


Visio Professional has what you'll need, stencil wise. It's got a huge
library of all sorts, and there are plenty of free libraries online as
well.

Randall Arnold

i have seen that page.
but these samples looks be different to the picture what i want.


"gabriel varela [MSFT]" <[email protected]> дÈëÏûÏ¢
That looks like a simple enough drawing for Visio - you will need
simply
play with the tool and select the correct Stencils for the figures.
Check
out some samples here:

http://www.microsoft.com/office/visio/evaluation/indepth/samples.asp

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

confers
no

rights.<<
Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions. <<
Please use these newsgroups. <<


http://progame.6600.org/bbs/images/upload/2003/08/08/132409.gif

can visio do this job?
or other software?