Info in .ldb index files somtimes garbled

[aaron.kempf]

I have no problem.

I'm just not going to allow you guys to carry on a smear campaign
against me.

Now stop following me around; contradicting everything I say. I feel
threatened by your actions.

-Aaron

 

[aaron.kempf]

Tony;

Again; I ask that you stop following me around; Attacking me every
time I say something.

You have crossed a line, Tony.

Get back in line, kid.

-Aaron

 

[Michel Walsh]

Embedded comments.



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Well Tony, I disagree. And since I

1) make more money than you do
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I don't see how you can be sure of that, and, even if you do, it is
irrelevant. Marijuana dealer makes more money than someone selling patatoes,
that does not imply the drug dealer is a better farmer.

So, you start your answer with someting you can hardly prove, and which
is irrelevant. Many readers will hardly judge you, right at the start. Very
bad rhetoric choice.



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2) work with more databases than you
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So you don't have the same time, for each of them, to go in the very
deep details of each of them. You may well have just claim to be more
superficial.


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3) have more certifications than you
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Maybe, maybe not. Are they relevant?



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then why don't you go and sell your wares elsewhere?
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That is called competition. Someone sure of his position don't need to ask
the competition to move away.





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So let's go through and test this, ok?

a) A lot of extra work
b) additional unneeded complexity

hmm.. let's dig into your theories.

a) It is not more work-- It's a more efficient language.
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Maybe clear in your head, but not here. WHICH language are you implying?



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GUARANTEED. The tools are better for SQL Server, guaranteed.
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Are you saying tools for SQL Server are better for SQL Server? because if
so, hum, well, why do you feel the need to make such a claim in the first
place?




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The language is easier and more powerful
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again, which language?



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The educational resources for SQL Server are superior
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superior for... education? Hand crafted examples tricked to show a
particular problem to the exposed to increase the knowledge of a student are
not necessary good 'production in the real world' examples.



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_GUARANTEED_.
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Says who? the guy who claimed to make more money than Tony? WE need
something else than your own words, you are well aware of if, no?




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These tools are free (ADP and 'SQL Server Management Studio Express
Edition')-- and it still gives design time tools for update queries,
inserts; etc... So how is it that _BETTER_FREE_TOOLS_
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They are better because they are free? No. They are better because they
write better query? no, the developer writes query, not the tool. So, in
what are they ... better?


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make it harder?
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A tool does not MAKE anything all by itself. To make a story short, how
easy is it to USE a tool is mostly due to its interface. You did not make
any claim in that direction, so your conclusion is not supported by your
argumenation.



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Seems to me like it's harder to defend yourself _ALL_ the time, Tony.
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Does he? I was on the impression that YOU were on the defensive.


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Can Access MDB _COMPETE_ with DTS?
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Both uses COM components, so it may just happen that they use the same
code behind their respective user interface. So, where is the competion you
seem to imply?


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How about SSIS? Well can they Tony?
So how is it that your development is 'easier'? The tools that I use
for development are 'Easier' and 'More Powerful'.
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They may be easier for you. Not necessary the case for the whole
universe. As Bill Gates once tell: some people are very comfortable to use
telnet command line, but we, at Microsoft, think it is easier for most
people to use a graphical user interface that will use telnet, for them,
behind the scene.

As for powerful, have to define in what. First time you use the
expression, and it is in a conclusion! cannot say it follows the development
you made up to now.



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b) unneeded complexity? Are you kidding me?
This guy is complaining about LDB files that won't let him edit a
database-- and you're giving mis-information about 'unneeded
complexity'?

How is it that the answer to 'LDB Hell' IS _NOT_ moving to SQL
Server? How is that not the right answer.
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When I go to the car dealer to change motor oil, getting the solution to
'change the car' IS NOT THE RIGHT ANSWER. A solution does not leave in an
absolute world. It has to take into account the initial problem. You didn't,
from all appearance.




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What do you think that SQL Server can't use LDB files?
Fine-- I'll make a SQL Server database that uses a LDB file
_RIGHT_NOW_ and it won't take me 1 minute.

Does that make you happier?

How about the 'linked table manager'? This isn't necessary in SQL
Server because all databases can talk to each other-- out of the box--
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Right out the box? no. You have to define a attached server and/or to modify
the SQL statement. Which is nowhere 'less job' to be done than with a linked
table.



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unless you want to secure it otherwise. Then let's talk about compact
and repair-- well SQL Server MSDE and SQL Server 2005 Express-- they
both do this automatically.

So _HOW_ is it that SQL Server is UNEEDED COMPLEXITY?
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Well, go to the extreme, there are problems where a database is not needed
at all, so it will be uneeded complexity. You see, the question is not why
it is not needed, but why it is needed. QUITE different.



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Honestly

WHERE DO YOU GET OFF, SPREADING MISINFORMATION?
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Ask to an expert... well ...


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Do you still fight the facts with HYSTERIA?
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Is Tony hysteric, here?


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Do you still give out _FALSE_ propaganda, Tony?
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I was tempted to cut and paste large part of your question.


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You had better stop following me around Tony and
attacking everything that I say. I will not allow that.
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He is not the only one to attack what you say. Now, I don't think he
attacks 'everything' you say, though. That would be a (another) exageration
of yours.



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I am warning you right now, Tony. KEEP YOUR DISTANCE FROM ME; I WILL
NOT PUT UP WITH YOUR MIS-INFORMATION _WARFARE_.
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English is not my first language and sometimes I fall on strange
expression like "put up". But in any cases, this is a DISCUSSION forum, that
implies someone can just 'comment' on what you said here. That is the 'game'
you accept being here. People are unlikely to accept your 'revelations' by
faith for you, you are aware of it, right?


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I don't know who you are or what you're doing-- following me around
like this-- but I will not put up with it.

NOT FOR ONE MINUTE.

I just finished working in the marketing department at Microsoft;
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Maybe you should add some distance between you and the job you made.
Marketing you said? That are the same kind of those who try to sell me the
idea that drinking beer will make me a sport kind of guy? I see. You were in
MS SQL Server marketing?

 

[Pete D.]

I use a hidden form to close users out of the database when needing updates.
Provides user 5 min warning and then closes them out.


David;

Again; I request that you stop following me around; attacking me on
these newsgroups.

Thanks

-Aaron

 

[aaron.kempf]

Michael;

I did not attack you.
I suggest you stop following me around; attacking everything I say.

I am not a marijuana dealer and your attacks are not neccesary; legal
or warranted.

Honestly.

I have been correcting mis-information about SQL Server and I will not
stop doing it just because you guys are being hostile and stalking me.

I make more money; work with more databases and larger datasets than
Tony.
Maybe when Tony graduates to databases with more than 1000 records
then maybe he can start talking to me again.

Until that time; I suggest that all of you guys stop following me
around-- attacking everything I say.
I do not feel safe, being attacked by drive-by libel.

Thanks

-Aaron

 

[aaron.kempf]

My problem is that I've got 3-4 people that are following me around;
attacking everything that I say.

I will not stand for it.

Personal attacks have no place on the internet; and I will do
everything in my power to defend myself from your character attacks.

Thanks

-Aaron

 

[aaron.kempf]

And for the record; you are full of crap. The guy was asking how to
stop dealing with LDB hell.
It is perfectly reasonable to run the upsizing wizard in order to move
to a better platform -- that is still _FREE_ -- that has better tools
and provides a better, _EASIER_ full featured development environment.

Thanks

-Aaron

 

[aaron.kempf]

And no; it is not the game that I accept by talkign on the internet.
I am a victim of cyber-bullies and I will not allow your libel.

You argue with mis-informaiton.

Stop defending a dying architecture (I reccomend-- I'm not going to
folow you around and stalk you).
Stop following me around; attacking everything that I say.

THanks

 

[Michel Walsh]

If you find people feeling the NEED to comment what you say, maybe it is
because they feel that what you say is just in need of being 'commented'.
That is how a discussion works. And a discussion is NOT an attack.

You have no order to give to anyone, and take a moment to consider that
MAYBE you are the one destroying yourself your own credibility.

The discussion is NOT about you, but about database products, why are you
taking it *personal*? and why other should not have a different opinion than
yours? NOT answering to your comment would leave the impression, on casual
reader, that your words are not challenged, while they are.



Vanderghast, Access MVP

And no; it is not the game that I accept by talkign on the internet.
I am a victim of cyber-bullies and I will not allow your libel.

You argue with mis-informaiton.

Stop defending a dying architecture (I reccomend-- I'm not going to
folow you around and stalk you).
Stop following me around; attacking everything that I say.

THanks

 

[aaron.kempf]

Michel;

Stop following me asshole.

I demand that you stop following me online and attacking me.
I will be complaining to many people about your actions.

I've asked you to stop following me on several occassions.

I do not appreciate your criticisms or attacks.
I am here to defend myself.

You are attacking me. Case closed.

Thanks

-Aaron Kempf
MCITP: Database Administrator

 

[aaron.kempf]

Pete;

I don't accept your criticisms.
And I don't accept 'coding your own solution to something'.

SQL Server can take backups _WHILE_ people are using the database.
SQL Server can EDIT TABLES _WHILE_ people have a connection open.

I am giving superior advice-- and you are attacking me.
I will not stand for it.

I believe that you guys have this gang mentality and you are working
in a 'Mafia' mentality to discredit everything that I say.
It is illegal. It is unwarranted.

And I demand that you guys stop following me around; attacking
everything that I say.

Thanks for keeping your nose where it belongs

-Aaron Kempf
MCITP: Database Administrator

 

[David W. Fenton]

:

Again; I request that you stop following me around; attacking me
on these newsgroups.

Aaron, how do you define the word "again"? You've been very silly
telling Tony Toews to stop "following you around," but this is my
first post about you in a long time.

You are a complete moron, and everyone who has been paying attention
already knows that. This "following me around/attacking" thing just
adds more evidence of the depth of your mononity.

 

[Pete D.]

I for one have had enough, he is using Google and I will file a violation of
their policy with http://www.fbi.gov/cyberinvest/cyberhome.htm. I will also
ask country of origin to investigate possible unstable individual. Under
recent changes to international laws to prevent unstable individuals from
creating a terrorist incident he at least deserves a visit from his friendly
local police force. I believe without intervention he may hurt himself or
others. Sorry, you are not in OZ anymore. Peter J. Duffy

 

[Tony Toews [MVP]]

I will also
ask country of origin to investigate possible unstable individual. Under
recent changes to international laws to prevent unstable individuals from
creating a terrorist incident he at least deserves a visit from his friendly
local police force.

I've already exchanged emails with the detective who has dealt with
Aaron Kempf in the past. Aaron is not at this time in violation of
any criminal laws in the USA or the State of Washington.

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can
read the entire thread of messages.
Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems at
http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/

 

[aaron_kempf]

Warning

David Fenton makes inaccurate and incorrect statements.

I would reccomend finding a certified SQL Server DBA or Developer in
order to fit your database needs.

This 'D A V I D F E N T O N' kid learned his databases on the back of
a cracker jacks box

-Aaron Kempf
MCITP: DBA

 

[aaron_kempf]

Pete;

Your attacks are unwarranted and unjustified.

Go and learn a real database, kid.

Thanks

-Aaron

 

[aaron_kempf]

Wow Tony-- you really are stalking me, arent' you?

I'd really reccomend stop using the pigs to fight your wars.
I'd tell you to just use your mental prowress.. but the fact of the
matter is that you're some stupid senior citizen that is too stupid to
learn a real database.

Honestly Tony-- I would reccomend stop _FUCKING_ with me and my life.
It's not a threat-- it's a promise.

Your unwarranted attacks-- your stalking of me in the first place; the
second place; the third place-- is why we are here.

Until then; I think that you should just keep your nose where it
belongs.

-Aaron