Need help setting up a complex project database

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    Gina Whipp Guest

    Wade,

    I made an exception here...

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    "WadeLovell" <> wrote in message
    news:...
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    > "Gina Whipp" wrote:
    >
    >> Tanya,
    >>
    >> I will send you an eMail directly about the database I already have.
    >>

    >
    > Gina, I am looking to solve a similar problem. If you see this then please
    > contact success AT SYMBOL ceo at home DOT com.
     
    Gina Whipp, Nov 1, 2007
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  2. Re: Furniture, Fixture & Equipment...and Thank you!!

    Hi,

    I wondered if you still have the MS Access database information? I am in the same predicament of a sizeable project requiring FF&E schedules to monitor items including cost and delivery times, etc.

    Many thanks,

    Tom

    > On Friday, September 14, 2007 3:08 PM ecodesigne wrote:


    > I am setting up a database to track and report the finish/specification
    > schedule for projects that will allow the info to be sorted in a couple of
    > different ways.
    >
    > The basics are: I have builders, sub-contractors, and suppliers who I use
    > repeatedly on many idfferent projects in various combinations. I have these
    > already stored in my Outlook Contacts. I think it would be esiest to import
    > these or link directly to these contacts from there, without creating a new
    > table.
    >
    > Second, I have a client, who has one or more projects. Each project has a
    > specific set of rooms, which I am thinking I will put in its own lookup
    > table. Then each project also has a specific set of information, which I am
    > thinking should be in seperate tables according to type, i.e. cabinets,
    > countertops, plumbing, appliances, etc. (Each of those categories has its
    > own set of info - room, material, color, finish, etc).
    >
    > Then there is the "finish schedule" which has sub-sets of floors, walls,
    > ceilings, etc - each of those has specific info - room, material, color,
    > finish, etc., again. I want the entire finish schedule to be grouped
    > together, but maybe only in the report, unless there is a good way/reason for
    > linking it together.
    >
    > So, to sum up-
    > Many builders - who are linked to one or many projects
    > Ditto sub-contractors
    > Ditto Suppliers
    >
    > Many Clients - one or many projects
    > Projects - one or many rooms
    > Detailed categories, specific to only one project
    >
    > Eventually I want to be able to print reports that show each project,
    > detailing each product by category and then also detailing each room and
    > showing all info pertaining to that room from every category.
    >
    > Am I on the right track?
    > How do I set up these tables/relationships?
    >
    > Thanks!
    >
    > --
    > Tanya
    > Sesshu Design Assoc
    > eco-friendly luxury interiors
    > www.sesshudesign.com



    >> On Saturday, September 15, 2007 2:35 PM Steve wrote:


    >> If you have an immediate need to get your project database done quickly, I
    >> can work with you to design the
    >> table structure of your project database. I have done this for numerous
    >> customers. My fee is very reasonable. I provide a map of the tables that
    >> shows all the tables in the database, all the fields in each table, all the
    >> relationships between the tables and the type of relationship for each
    >> relationship. The tables are arranged on the map generally as the flow of
    >> information in the database. I create a map of the tables for every database
    >> I do. The map visually shows what forms and subforms are needed for data
    >> entry, shows what special forms and subforms can be created for dispaying
    >> data in the database and shows
    >> what reports and subreports can be created from the data in the database.
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    >> "eco-designer" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...



    >>> On Saturday, September 15, 2007 3:11 PM Gina Whipp wrote:


    >>> Eco-Designer,
    >>>
    >>> I just finished working on a conract that does FF&E Specification sheets for
    >>> Interior Design which includes purchasing, client/contact management,
    >>> project managment, vendor management, as well as, reporting, etc... If
    >>> you think this is close to what you need, I can provide you with table
    >>> layouts for FREE!
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Gina Whipp
    >>>
    >>> "I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors
    >>> II
    >>>
    >>> "eco-designer" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:...



    >>>> On Saturday, September 15, 2007 5:33 PM John Marshall, MVP wrote:


    >>>> Nice try Steve. but these newsgroups are not your personal ground for
    >>>> soliciting. They are for Free Peer to Peer support.
    >>>>
    >>>> John... Visio MVP



    >>>>> On Saturday, September 15, 2007 5:53 PM StopThisAdvertising wrote:


    >>>>> " Steve" <> schreef in bericht =
    >>>>> news:...
    >>>>> quickly, I=20
    >>>>> numerous=20
    >>>>> <snipped the rest>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> OK here we go again.... We hoped you would be sensible Steve !
    >>>>> But it seems to be *very* difficult for you not to advertise here ??
    >>>>> You don't know there are pills for that disease!!
    >>>>>
    >>>>> To the original poster:
    >>>>> Most people here have a common belief that the newsgroups are for *free =
    >>>>> exchange of information*.
    >>>>> But Steve is a notorious job hunter in these groups, always trying to =
    >>>>> sell his services.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Before you intend to do business with him look at:
    >>>>> http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html=20
    >>>>> Until now 4150+ pageloads, 2600+ first-time visitors=20
    >>>>> (these figures are real and rapidly increasing)
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Arno R



    >>>>>> On Sunday, September 16, 2007 5:56 PM Tony Toews [MVP] wrote:


    >>>>>> "Gina Whipp" <> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> What does FF & E mean?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Wow, much better price than Steve. And a much more trustworthy
    >>>>>> source.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Tony
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> --
    >>>>>> Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
    >>>>>> Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can
    >>>>>> read the entire thread of messages.
    >>>>>> Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems at
    >>>>>> http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
    >>>>>> Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/



    >>>>>>> On Sunday, September 16, 2007 6:03 PM Gina Whipp wrote:


    >>>>>>> Furniture, Fixture & Equipment...
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> and Thank you!!
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>> Gina Whipp
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> "I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors
    >>>>>>> II



    >>>>>>>> On Monday, September 17, 2007 3:26 AM Keith Wilby wrote:


    >>>>>>>> Yeh, right. Except that you do not know the first thing about Excel as
    >>>>>>>> demonstrated by your questions in the Excel NG.



    >>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 17, 2007 4:12 AM Keith Wilby wrote:


    >>>>>>>>> I love jumping in with free offers when snake-oil boy touts for business. I
    >>>>>>>>> recently sent two people a copy of a survey db of mine for free and they are
    >>>>>>>>> both now satisfied "customers".
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Keith.



    >>>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 17, 2007 1:52 PM ecodesigne wrote:


    >>>>>>>>>> I would love to see what you have - I'm mainly looking for the FF&E
    >>>>>>>>>> specifications, but you never know where something might pop up.
    >>>>>>>>>> Please send to .
    >>>>>>>>>> Thanks-
    >>>>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>>>> Tanya
    >>>>>>>>>> Sesshu Design Assoc
    >>>>>>>>>> eco-friendly luxury interiors
    >>>>>>>>>> www.sesshudesign.com
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> "Gina Whipp" wrote:



    >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 17, 2007 2:09 PM Gina Whipp wrote:


    >>>>>>>>>>> Tanya,
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> I sent them to you in a word document. The title of the eMail is FFE table
    >>>>>>>>>>> set-up.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>>>>> Gina Whipp
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> "I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors
    >>>>>>>>>>> II



    >>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 17, 2007 2:26 PM Gina Whipp wrote:


    >>>>>>>>>>>> And just a side note... when placing your eMail in these newsgroups...
    >>>>>>>>>>>> tanyaashively AT earthlink DOT net prevents it from being collected by spam
    >>>>>>>>>>>> tools.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Gina Whipp
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> "I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors
    >>>>>>>>>>>> II
    >>>>>>>>>>>> "eco-designer" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>> news:...



    >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 17, 2007 4:18 PM ecodesigne wrote:


    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the anti-spam tip - I HATE that stuff!!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> I got your file - thx.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess one of mymain questions is really how to link the tables together so
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> that the info is connected correctly (see my inital post regarding set-up).
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have the tables with the basic info I need, but don't know the best way to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> link these and create the relationships.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> For instance, can I use lookup columns to pull contact info from Outlook for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> builders and sub-contractors, etc.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Then, how do I link the projects to the correct client?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> And the correct project detail tables to each project?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have set up tables for cabinets, countertops, tub & showers, appliances,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> plumbing, windows, fireplaces, etc and they each have a long list of info
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> columns.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to have a table for finish schedule, that links several
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> sub-categories of floors, walls, ceilings, etc.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Does that make sense?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tanya
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sesshu Design Assoc
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> eco-friendly luxury interiors
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> www.sesshudesign.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gina Whipp" wrote:



    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 17, 2007 5:46 PM Gina Whipp wrote:


    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tanya,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Each Client can have multiple Projects
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tblProjects FK pClientID <> tblClientProfile PK cpClientID
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> When entering a new Project you have to select the client that goes to that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> project
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Each Project can have umpteen FF&E Sheets
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tblProjects PK pID <> tblFFESpecification FK ffesProjectID
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have set up my database to link to the Project when entering a new FF&E.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is done when entering a new FF&E Sheet you must select a Project.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> These are actually part of the FF&E Sheet, you have to select
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ffesItemDescription which lets you know what the item is, setting up
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> seperate tables makes reports that much more difficult. Also on the FF&E
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheet menu you can select, room, floor, style, finish, location and more.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You don't need seperate tables to be able to print things like Finish
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Schedules, You just need the a way to get a query and produce the report
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the information you want. The sub-catergories you refer to are part of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> my Specification Index, which is done by a range of numbers, so any
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> specification sheet between 100-199 means floors, walls, etc. Hope I am
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> explaining this so it makes sense.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gina Whipp
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> II
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "eco-designer" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:...



    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 17, 2007 6:10 PM ecodesigne wrote:


    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok - I understand the project / client link, and also the project FFE spec
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I understand you're saying is that all of your specs, regardless of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> type, are on one table. In my situation, each type has it's own set of info
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> types, sometimes they are similar, sometimes they are not. So do you just
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end up with a lot of fields that may be blank for a specific set of specs?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i.e., electrical plate covers are only brand/color and location, where
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countertops include material, color, backsplash, supplier, grout color, etc.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and plumbing includes qty, location, manufacturer, item, color, model, etc.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then can I set up queries to get all of the countertops, all of the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cabinets, all of the appliances, etc plus a query to get all of the info for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each room?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tanya
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sesshu Design Assoc
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eco-friendly luxury interiors
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.sesshudesign.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gina Whipp" wrote:



    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 17, 2007 6:21 PM Gina Whipp wrote:


    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but not as many as you think.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also hold Vendor/Supplier, Estimated Ship Date, Quantity, etc...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Color and Style are actually stored in another table linked to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tblFFESpecification
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my set-up the answer is yes and with minimal effort.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gina Whipp
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> II
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "eco-designer" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:...



    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 17, 2007 6:44 PM ecodesigne wrote:


    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I appreciate your patient help- I know I dove into a very complex project for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my first foray into Access!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess part of my difficulty is that each of my projects are very unique -
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there really isn't repeatable info once you get past the suppliers and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> builders. The FFE Specifications are individual only to that particular
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project. Should I make my database a template that I use to create a new
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file for each project so that they are not intermingled? Won't the database
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> become huge if all projects are kept in one file?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (I also don't care about tracking orders or any of that - I basically give
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this info to the builder and they take over from there, which simplifies in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I don't need po's or invoices or any sort of shipping info.)
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I'm reading your tables I don't see the fields I thought I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted/needed for product info. Do you just enter all the color, material,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> style, etc as one long description?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frankly, I am very confused, and would be willing to have someone else
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create this for me if the price was right. I only started this on my own
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I couldn't find anyone else to do it.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tanya
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sesshu Design Assoc
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eco-friendly luxury interiors
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.sesshudesign.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gina Whipp" wrote:



    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 17, 2007 7:00 PM Gina Whipp wrote:


    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tanya,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You definitely went to the most challenging for a first time project!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The way I designed this database was that the FF&E Specification Sheets have
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a specific layout, the client and I thought it looked more professional that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way. What's on them is what makes the unique to the project. Projects are
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in one table, FF&E Sheets another table with plenty of tables linked to it.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My client received this database and has since entered about 20 projects,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each project has about 500 FF&E sheets and it's not 10mg yet. As long as
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the database tables are set-up properly then 'huge' won't come for many
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Color, style, etc.. would be in tblFFESpecificationStyle and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tblFFESpecificationSize, as well as, tblFFESpecificationImages (if you want
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pictures), tblFFESpecificationLocation. These are one sheet to many Styles,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sizes, Pictures, etc by the way of subforms.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awkward position... I would hate to be accused of trolling for business.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you would like to have a conversation about me doing a scaled down
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version of what I have done, then let me know. You might want references
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the like first!!!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gina Whipp
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> II
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "eco-designer" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:...



    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 17, 2007 8:00 PM ecodesigne wrote:


    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok- next question, and this may be exactly what you have been trying to tell
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me since the first-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do I need a table to link all the categories, i.e. tblProjectSpecs
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that has fields AppliancesID, PlumbingID, CabinetsID, TubShowerID, etc?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Each of those refer to one item entered in their respective tables. (I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think this may be similar to your tblFFESpecification) or maybe it just has a
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> field for ItemDescriptionID, that refers to each of those other tables, and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thus creates a more uniform appearance?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we were to talk about doing a scaled down version of your existing
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> database I would certainly not be thinking you had been trolling - I am aware
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the rules for this group, but I think I bit off more than I can handle,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and you seem to already know what I'm talking about.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please e-mail me directly to discuss.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tanya
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sesshu Design Assoc
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eco-friendly luxury interiors
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.sesshudesign.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gina Whipp" wrote:



    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 17, 2007 8:27 PM Gina Whipp wrote:


    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tanya,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you do not need an additional table, that would be handled by let's say
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Specification Index which is different then the tblFFESpecification.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will send you an eMail directly about the database I already have.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gina Whipp
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> II
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "eco-designer" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:...



    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 31, 2007 7:13 PM WadeLovel wrote:


    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gina Whipp" wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gina, I am looking to solve a similar problem. If you see this then please
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contact success AT SYMBOL ceo at home DOT com.



    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:55 PM Gina Whipp wrote:


    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wade,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I made an exception here...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gina Whipp
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> II
     
    Thomas Halliwell, Jul 27, 2011
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