Need help with submit button properties

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okerkula

I created a form using Publisher 2003 and published it to the web. I
selected “Send Data to me by email†in the Submit button properties. I put
the following information in the “data retrieval information fieldsâ€;
Send data to this email address: (e-mail address removed)
Subject of email: HS Register form response
When I click on the Submit button from my website, I get an “HTTP 404 – File
not found†error message.

I am willing to use one of the other “Submit button†options but don’t know
how to set them up either

My operating system is Windows Vista and my website is hosted by
Bluehost.com. The link to my web page http://hairstare.com/

I have very little web experience so please provide help in an elementary or
beginners level manner.

Thank you so much
 
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DavidF

You have a number of issues to address, but first of all, congrats on a nice
looking site. I like the looks of your site. With that said, you need to
make some changes other than fixing your form and this is going to be a
longish reply.

In general it is hard to give you good directions on how to set up a form in
a Publisher web because it varies depending on what operating system you are
using, what version of IE, and what form handlers or form programs your host
provides. In general Publisher forms are set up by default to use FPSE, but
if possible it probably is better to use a different form handler. Here are
some references:

By default Publisher forms are 'powered' by FrontPage Server Extensions, or
FPSE. You have not installed the FPSE on your site, but they apparently are
available:
http://helpdesk.bluehost.com/index.php/kb/article/000021

But before you do install the extensions read this article:
Reference: Publisher web publication forms 101:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/07/80564.aspx
It tells you how to test for FPSE and that you must use HTTP uploading
protocol or you will corrupt the FPSE. Here is another article about not
being able to use FTP or risk corrupting the extensions:
http://helpdesk.bluehost.com/index.php/kb/article/000012

Now the problem is that the standard way of uploading using HTTP uploading
protocol no longer works if you are using Vista or IE7+. If you are still
using XP and IE6, then this article applies:
Reference: How to publish a Publisher web in HTTP:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/pages/80557.aspx

Assuming that you are using Vista, Windows 7, IE7 or IE8 then in order to
use HTTP uploading protocol you must map the network drive. I don't have
good instructions for this, but reference this article:
Prepare, publish, and maintain your Publisher Web site:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA100947601033.aspx
It is written for Pub 2007, but if you are using IE7 instead of IE6, then
the directions for using Vista would apply. FTP and HTTP uploading has
changed with the introduction of IE7. Pay particular attention to the
instructions for FTP uploading in Vista under Publish a Web site by using
FTP - click the + sign. You can probably modify these to use HTTP and
mapping a network drive.

Now with all that said, if you reference back to the article by David
Bartosik about Forms 101 you were told: "If your host provides and supports
a form program and you have the technical know how to program it (or your
host assists you). In the form properties dialog for your form simply select
the option to use "an ISP Program" and then input the server path and name
of the form program." It might be worth your time to figure out how to use a
different form handler than FPSE as the support for FPSE on different
webhosts is going away and will disappear with time. Rather than set up your
forms with FPSE you can use a different form handler provided by your host.
In this case you have at least one

http://helpdesk.bluehost.com/index.php/kb/article/000249
Shows you two things. It shows you where to direct the form properties of
your current form (right click the submit button > Properties). It also
provides a complete, ready made form for you to use. If you copy and paste
the code snippet given into a Insert > html code fragment box you can use
the form provided. Just change the email addresses etc. This is probably
your easiest solution. Also you can use this and then use FTP uploading and
avoid the hassle of trying to use HTTP uploading.

There is also a MSFT article that describes how to change the form
properties:
Reference: Web forms:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/CH063576891033.aspx

Now that I have overloaded you with information about your forms, you have a
couple other things to address. One of which is the fact that your page does
not load at all in FireFox. I suspect that is because you need to go into
Tools > Options > Web tab and uncheck 'rely on VML..." option. Then
republish. You should check your pages in FF because if you can get them to
look and work ok in both IE and FF then they will work in the other major
browsers. This cross browser compatibility is important. Download and
install FF: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ and then you can test your
web pages with FF.

And...compress your images if you haven't already optimized them for the
web:
Reference: Compress graphics file sizes to create smaller Publisher Web
pages (2003):
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011266301033.aspx

Reference: Compress Pictures dialog box (2007):
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/HA100363901033.aspx?pid=CL100605171033

And finally, scan the other posts to read about the incompatibility of IE8
and Pub 2003 navbars. In general you will need to ungroup them, but I won't
bother posting that information. Just read it in another of my posts about
the subject.

Ok..now that I have overloaded you I will stop. The main thing is that you
either have to install FPSE and learn how to set up your form to use FPSE
and how to upload using HTTP uploading protocol, or use your host provided
forms or form handler instead of the FPSE. The rest has to do with making
your site cross browser compatible. Just do one thing at a time...you
already have the bulk of the work done and a good looking site. Don't let
all this information overwhelm you.

DavidF
 
S

Spike

Before addressing the submit button the site needs some tweaking:
The navigation bars are not visible using IE 8:


If you are using Publisher 2003 or earlier

Create a web site with nav bars etc.
Saved web site as "My web site.pub"
With the pub page open
Ctrl a (selects all)
Arrange > Ungroup
This insures that all groups are ungrouped
This must be done on ALL pages individually
Re-Saved using Save As "My web site NBUG.pub"
I take the step to "Save As" so that when I shut down publisher and I get a
prompt to save my changes I do NOT overwrite the master file "My web
site.pub" accidentally.
Publish to the web
FTP to the server
Web site works using IE 8

If a change, update is required or a page is added
Open with "My web site.pub"
Make changes
Follow the above suggestions
BTW NBUG = "Nav Bars Un Grouped"
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Get that done and then the submit button options can be looked at

Spike
 
O

okerkula

I wish I could meet you both to give you a big bear hug. I don’t know where
to begin to thank you for your enormous help.

First – Thank you for the time you spent providing me with such a
considerable amount of information, different options and even links. I
can’t believe you would be so generous with your time and not charge a fee -
it's unheard of. I will practice your act of kindness and generosity in my
business.

Second – Thank you for providing an explanation in layman’s terms. I was
able to understand everything you wrote and am currently weighing my options
based on your suggestions.

Third – Thank your for your encouraging words to; “don’t let all this
information overwhelm youâ€â€¦ it’s what I needed to muster up the confidence
that “I Can Do Thisâ€â€¦ and believe me I will!

Fourth – Thank you for including additional helpful tips to improve and
optimize my website.

Fifth – Thank you so much for your compliment on the look of my website –
such a compliment coming from a professional like you really made my day.

And finally, there are no words to express my gratitude for your help. Your
generosity is priceless!

Thanks a billion and Happy Holidays to the both of you!!

With Warm Regards

Olivia Kerkula
 
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DavidF

You are welcome, and thanks for your kind words. Sometimes we do wonder if
posters even come back and read our answers, let alone appreciate them.
Thanks for the feedback...made my day. ;-)

DavidF
 

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