OL2007 NO POSSIBLE WAY to insert picture without some resampling

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Erika

There is a MS Article about this on their support site. 173111 Though it
does not mention the Office 2007 family.

One would think that the MS Word editor that is driving the Outlook 2007
editor would use this PPI value for how it inserts the picture, however even
in this respect, there are problems.

If an image is inserted with a PPI value of 96, on a screen that has a
resolution of 96DPI, one would think that the picture would be inserted
pixel for pixel. However Word still upsamples (resamples) the image
somewhat (although it appears somewhat better than if no PPI value is
present).

Therefore, currently it appears to me that there is NO POSSIBLE WAY to
insert a picture without word resampling the picture in some form.

The best possible way to solve this is for products that use the word editor
to default either to 96dpi or to the DPI value set in the user's "Display
Properties" "Settings" "Advanced" "General" tab, "DPI Setting".

What is even more interesting, is that even if this did work, based on the
PPI value, that Microsoft's products that ship with Windows and Office don't
even allow editing of the PPI value within the picture.

Microsoft, comments please?

Can this be fixed?

Is there a registry setting somewhere to help???

PLEASE HELP!

Erika
 
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Diane Poremsky [MVP]

what image format are you using? When I insert an image (bmp or jpg) at 96,
it stays at 96. Smaller and larger ones resample at 96. If you don't want it
resampled, attach it instead of inserting.
 
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Erika

Are you using Outlook 2007?

That is odd, because I have tried multiple PPI values in multiple pictures,
and each one resamples differently, however none of these result in an image
the same size as the original.

Particularly, if there is no ppi value the image goes very wrong.

There is something very different and very wrong with my machine compared
with yours.

I am using Outlook 12.0.4518.1014
I am using all the latest XP Service packs

Outlook was originally installed when my machine Display Properties were set
to 120 DPI, however these have since changed back to 96 when problems
occurred. Additionally I reinstalled outlook and deleted the registry
values.

Other posts seemed to point to the same scenario.

I was also originally using a larger text size as set in Display Properties,
Appearance. These values have since been set back to normal.

I have a 1920x1200 screen.

Word has a setting in it for Web Options, settings for "Target Monitor" are
"800x600", "96" PPI.

If yours is working correctly, possibly there is a registry setting that got
changed or out of wack somehow.
 
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Diane Poremsky [MVP]

OL2007, tablet pc always at 96 dpi. Images created using either snagit or
Photoshop.
 
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Erika

I cringe at the thought, however in fact you are getting correct picture
sizes in Outlook 2007, then possibly the only thing I can do is a complete
system reinstall.

I have tried numerous other strategies.
 
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Erika

Repair reinstall of windows did not work, I am going to do a complete
reinstall of windows now.

This better work... :(
 
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Diane Poremsky [MVP]

that was a quick reformat - your time zone is apparently wrong though.

The picture is the same size here in outlook, in ms paint, in snagit, in
photoshop. The picture formats I'm checking are bmp and jpg and were created
with snagit and photoshop CS2. Screen DPI is 96.

What formats are you using? What is the size of the pictures you are
inserting?
 
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Diane Poremsky [MVP]

What setting are you trying to use a batch on? Setting all images to 96?
Most image processing programs can do this.
 
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Erika

Diane
I just Formatted my hard drive, reinstalled Windows XP , and reinstalled
office. I installed no other software or drivers installed at the time.

I got the same results as described before. Outlook increases the size of
the pictures.

I used 96PPI pictures. and my screen DPI is 96. Pictures that I open in
"MS Paint" should be the same size as the pictires that I insert into the
message area of Outlook.

Can you please check again if the sizes of the pictures you insert into
outlook are really the right size? Because It just is not happening for me,
and I am really frustrated.

Thank you.

Erika
 
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Erika

Diane,
Your comment that your computer handled this correctly was a tremendous
help.

Somewhere after reinstalling the system and updating everything it started
to work correctly...

However, now my problem is that all my digital cameras take pictures in
different DPI settings. Adobe Photoshop Elements 5 will resample all the
images if I tell it to change all the images to 96 dpi...

Also changing images to 96dpi will also mess with my printing, however, my
job demands I work with outlook first.

What is the best way to batch reset this setting without resampling the
pictures?

Is there an app to do this?

Thanks,

Erika
 
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Erika

Actually having some problems finding a program to do this. Photoshop
Elements will batch resample the pictures only if I change the PPI value,
and Picassa doesn't do this at all (as far as I can tell). Ms Office
picture manager does not. Googling this for now. Infranview looks
promising...

I read somewhere that most cameras are set for 72 dpi but mine takes at
300dpi, and I hardly think that the average user is going to be able to
figure out how to do this with outlook. MS has to put a setting in there
somewhere to make this easier. Seems like a big step in the wrong direction
for usability.

Please put in a good word with Bill about this.

Thank you, thank you for all your time.

Erika
 
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Erika

Diane,
I have been all over the net for hours, it is now 1:50 am in Asia, and I am
beat.

I cannot for the life of me find a tool to batch resize my images so I can
use them in Outlook 96 dpi.

This is too difficult. If I wasn't dependent on new features in OL 2007,
I'd ditch it for 2003.

Any last suggestions?

*Yawn...*

Connect with you in the morning.

Erika
 
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SamWalt

Insane. Just Insane.

My wife, my kid, and more importantly, the people that work for me will
never figure out this DPI stuff.

MS, you need to fix this.
 
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Diane Poremsky [MVP]

The DPI isn't a big deal to most people / for most uses. They insert the
image and send it... it's not going to be an issue for the vast majority.
Heck, most users don't have a clue about dpi and resolutions and don't care.
 
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Diane Poremsky [MVP]

Did you look at Photoshop, paint shop pro, thumbsplus, ifran view? I know
they all support batch processing and I just checked infran view - it
supports batching the dpi in advanced options.
 
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Erika

I dont care about it either.

What I DO care about is that the quality is being compromised of my 72 dpi
pictures, and that emails that I send with pictures are being bloated to
much larger KB sizes.
 
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SamWalt

Photoshop and Infranview must open the picture and recompress it to the
preset batch setting, thus losing picture quality. Photoshop Elements will
also resample the resolution based on your change in the dpi setting.
 
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SamWalt

DITTO ON THAT!!!

I knew nothing of this DPI PPI Junk till Outlook made this change and my
email newsletters started looking like crap. I am going to have to set up
thunderbird to handle my newsletters.

Microsoft needs to do something to fix this.
 

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