Page Numbering over Multiple Documents

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C Anderson

I have a quality assurance manual that has been written at work but due to
the size of the manual we have had to create approximately 10 different word
documents. Is there anyway in which we would be able to link the documents
so that the page numbering would continue automatically throughout them.

For example document 1 has say pages numbered 1 to 150 while document 2 has
pages numbered 151-300. If I delete a page from document one is there anyway
to set up the documents in word so that it will automatically change the page
numbers.
 
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Pat Garard

G'Day C,

What you need is a Master Document.

You will see in these News Groups a number of warnings
about Master/Sub Documents and how they become
corrupt. I have been using Master/Sub documents since
they became available, and I have not had one corrupted
yet (clean living?). On a more practical level, Microsoft
includes the feature in each new version of Word - and
Microsoft actually makes a profit. (If it really does
become corrupt, you could quickly recreate another.)

Open a New Document in Word;
Type "Title Page"; Press Enter; Insert>Break>Page Break;
Type "Contents": Press Enter; Insert>Break>Page Break;

You now have three pages with the insertion point at the
top of page three.

File>Save As... (suitable Name) in the same folder as the
other QA Manual documents.

View>Outline;
You will see another Toolbar (Outlining).
Hover the Mouse over button 4 from the right-hand end
("Insert subdocument")

Click and choose the first of the Manual parts.
It will be inserted, and the cursor will move to the end.
Repeat for all other parts in correct order.

Save!!

Now! The Master does not "contain" the subdocuments - it
is linked to them and reads each one as needed.

Through the master document you may:
Add and format your table of contents
Paginate the entire Document
View the entire Document
Print the entire Document....

For now it is probably best that you maintain (edit) each
document separately - however do note that you can edit
in the Master, and the changes will be saved to each individual
document.

See Word Help for "Master Documents".
 
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Cindy M -WordMVP-

Hi Pat,
I have been using Master/Sub documents since
they became available, and I have not had one corrupted
yet (clean living?).
I think one key thing (that it might be well to mention
when introducing people to this functionality) in keeping
Master Docs from going bad is to NEVER move the
sub-documents around. Generally, it's the section breaks
that go bad in a Master Doc, and moving the sub-docs around
can mess up the section breaks.

Another useful tip is to be sure to make back-up copies of
the sub-documents, just in case something does go wrong,
and the damage propagates back to the sub-document.

Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update
Jun 8 2004)
http://www.word.mvps.org

This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any
follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail
:)
 
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Pat Garard

Hi Cindy,

You make a very good point.

For me, a Master Document is a means to an end - a
convenient framework for linking the parts and itself
containing nothing except Cover/Title pages, a TOC
and, occasionally, an Index.

I maintain the sub-docs quite separately. The Master,
to me, is a disposable item that can be re-created if
necessary (rather than moving content around).

I need to remember that not everyone necessarily
follows that route.
 
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John McGhie

Hi Pat:

I think you should have offered your advice to "keep the master as a
disposable item" as your first point :)

However, I am not sure that the original poster even NEEDS a master
document. His complete document is only around 1,500 pages: easily within
the capabilities of Word for a single document (Word 2003 will handle around
five thousand pages in a single document without too much trouble). And he
will find that all the numbering and cross-referencing functions are much
easier to manage in a single document.

So what I would do is make up a series of subdocuments, one for each subject
matter expert or contributing author. I would create them all from the same
template and send them out to the individual authors who will create the
text. I would then simply paste them all together into a single document at
the end for proofing and printing.

In addition to what you and Cindy said, I would offer the following for a
long and (relatively) happy life using Master Documents:

1) The master document itself should be constructed purely as a shell to
hold the subdocuments. Do not put any text in it at all other than text
that is automatically generated, so you can throw away the master at any
time. As soon as you make the master, make a backup copy and store it
someplace safe so you can instantly switch without losing anything.

2) As Cindy says, never move a subdocument within the master. Delete it
and re-add it where you want it.

3) The other thing I believe is a key component is never edit a subdocument
while the master is open. Open the subdocuments individually to edit them:
if the master is open at the time you are never sure which version will
ultimately be saved.

4) Ensure the master and all the subs are created from the same template.

5) Ensure the list and numbering parts of Tools>Autocorrect are OFF.

6) Ensure that "Automatically update styles on open" is switched off for
the template, and that "Automatically Update" is switched off for all of the
styles.

While I am with Pat, I have been using master documents for years without
too much trouble, nearly every master document I see used by normal
corporate users is corrupted, and many are so bad they lose bits of text.

A master document is a complex and fragile tool: like any other complex
tool, it rewards careful and precise usage. I have 30 years practice in
long document authoring: I do this stuff automatically by habit, but if you
have not grown up that way, master documents won't last. I regard them as a
good tool for professional wordsmiths, but not so good for normal corporate
users.

Hope this helps

Hi Cindy,

You make a very good point.

For me, a Master Document is a means to an end - a
convenient framework for linking the parts and itself
containing nothing except Cover/Title pages, a TOC
and, occasionally, an Index.

I maintain the sub-docs quite separately. The Master,
to me, is a disposable item that can be re-created if
necessary (rather than moving content around).

I need to remember that not everyone necessarily
follows that route.

--

Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email
me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie <[email protected]>
Consultant Technical Writer
Sydney, Australia +61 4 1209 1410
 
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Pat Garard

G'Day John,

Thank you for your observations. The original poster has an
eclectic and MASTERful overall response, with some very
valuable SUB-responses.

S/he has been well served by the NG, and I am sure s/he will
be well pleased!
 
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Cindy M -WordMVP-

Hi Pat,
Thank you for your observations. The original poster has an
eclectic and MASTERful overall response, with some very
valuable SUB-responses.

S/he has been well served by the NG, and I am sure s/he will
be well pleased!
<G> I find it interesting that the most vocal proponents of
the feature all come from down-under... Maybe section breaks
work differently when they're upside-down... <gdr>?

Cindy Meister
 
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Pat Garard

'oroo Cindy,

We aussies take up new technology more quickly than
anywhere else on earth, and we have been using Word
since the good old days when men were Men, women
were Women and the sheep were Nervous!!!

In this environment, Bill Gates needs to keep his pants
belt firmly buckled or he won't know whether he's
Arthur or Martha (aussie term for sexual confusion).

Office also! I was one of the earliest victims of the Office
97 'bigredx' fiasco - in fact, according to a Microsoft
agent with the unlikely id of "ArgonFour", I was number
three in the whole world!!!!

I didn't really feel very important though - Word still
scrambled its documents and lost all my screen shots.
 
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John McGhie

No, it's because we read upside down so we always see the answer before we
get the question :)


Hi Pat,

<G> I find it interesting that the most vocal proponents of
the feature all come from down-under... Maybe section breaks
work differently when they're upside-down... <gdr>?

Cindy Meister

--

Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email
me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie <[email protected]>
Consultant Technical Writer
Sydney, Australia +61 4 1209 1410
 
J

Jonathan West

C Anderson said:
I have a quality assurance manual that has been written at work but due to
the size of the manual we have had to create approximately 10 different
word
documents. Is there anyway in which we would be able to link the
documents
so that the page numbering would continue automatically throughout them.

For example document 1 has say pages numbered 1 to 150 while document 2
has
pages numbered 151-300. If I delete a page from document one is there
anyway
to set up the documents in word so that it will automatically change the
page
numbers.

For an alternative to master documents, you might like to take a look at
this article.

Creating a Table of Contents Spanning Multiple Documents
http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/Pub0009/LPMArticle.asp?ID=148

The article deals with maintaining consecutive page numbering as well as the
generation of the TOC and index.
 

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