Reinstall Publisher 2002

[Piers]

Due to drive limitations, had to install new drive. Reinstalled Windows
XP/SP2 and Office XP/SP3.
1) Can I either run Publisher 2002 directly from the disc, or install on an
external USB drive to conserve C drive space? or must I do a reinstall on C?
2) If I do install on C, can I later remove using Add/Remove and then later
reinstall?

 

[JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]]

I don't think you can completely run Publisher from the disk. I could be
wrong but I think those days are pretty much gone. I don't think installing
it on a removable drive will work either. Same caveat as before.

If you install/uninstall/reinstall, you're going to have to call Microsoft
each time to reactivate the program. They may not allow you to do that too
many times. My advice would be to get a larger hard disk. They are
inexpensive these days. If your case will support it, install the second
hard disk as the slave drive. That's what I did. My programs are on the C
drive, my files are on my D drive.

 

[Piers]

You say you have installed a new hard drive. One would assume that the one
purchased was (significantly) larger than the old one. If so, this is a
completely pointless question. If not, then you're an idiot. If you know
where to look a 120GB drive can be had for around £40 (around $75), so
there's absolutely no excuse for being out of space.

1) No you cannot. Software must be installed to run.

2) No you cannot. Software must be installed on a fixed disk - otherwise
the registry will end up completely corrupt as the entries will be pointing
nowhere and you'll find that, when you switch the external drive on, you'd
need to reinstall again anyway.

3) Why would you want to? a) it's a pain and b) you'd be forever
reactivating and certain licence types have a finite number of activations.


Thank you for points 1, 2 and 3 was useful. The introduction was unnessarily intolerant and condescending in tone. I've been working with computers for 25+ years and often help people out with problems/questions. That's called collaboration.

 

[Frank]

Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:

Er, yes, so what? What has "collaboration" got to do with anything? You are
an idiot if you're having space issues on a new drive as the whole point of
purchasing a new drive is to buy one larger than the one currently
installed. You didn't appear to have done so which does make you rather an
idiot, does it not...?

Geewiz...does simply contemplating switching to Mac's always produce
such psychotic and incoherent outburst?
Frank

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash Gordon®\)]

She has PMS...Pre MAC Syndrome.

I wonder if she's this annoying in real life? Could anyone be so rude in real life and live more than 20 years...I wonder?





| Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
|
|
| >
| >
| > Er, yes, so what? What has "collaboration" got to do with anything? You are
| > an idiot if you're having space issues on a new drive as the whole point of
| > purchasing a new drive is to buy one larger than the one currently
| > installed. You didn't appear to have done so which does make you rather an
| > idiot, does it not...?
| >
| >
| Geewiz...does simply contemplating switching to Mac's always produce
| such psychotic and incoherent outburst?
| Frank

 

[Frank]

She has PMS...Pre MAC Syndrome.

I wonder if she's this annoying in real life? Could anyone be so rude in real life and live more than 20 years...I wonder?





| Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
|
|
| >
| >
| > Er, yes, so what? What has "collaboration" got to do with anything? You are
| > an idiot if you're having space issues on a new drive as the whole point of
| > purchasing a new drive is to buy one larger than the one currently
| > installed. You didn't appear to have done so which does make you rather an
| > idiot, does it not...?
| >
| >
| Geewiz...does simply contemplating switching to Mac's always produce
| such psychotic and incoherent outburst?
| Frank

Hopefully not, unless she and boyfriend are into "slap around"!
Although not surprising in today world, as I find a great many young
people very rude and extremely stupid.
I just thank G_d that at 6'3" and 210 lbs in my old age I can still
knock the ritalin junkies on their dumb asses.
Frank

 

[Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)]

Rob

I understand that Post Mac Syndrome is every bit as debilitating.. brought
on by lack of features, I hear.. lol..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User

"If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would have kept
it all to themselves." - Lane Kirkland


message She has PMS...Pre MAC Syndrome.

I wonder if she's this annoying in real life? Could anyone be so rude in
real life and live more than 20 years...I wonder?





| Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
|
|
| >
| >
| > Er, yes, so what? What has "collaboration" got to do with anything? You
are
| > an idiot if you're having space issues on a new drive as the whole point
of
| > purchasing a new drive is to buy one larger than the one currently
| > installed. You didn't appear to have done so which does make you rather
an
| > idiot, does it not...?
| >
| >
| Geewiz...does simply contemplating switching to Mac's always produce
| such psychotic and incoherent outburst?
| Frank

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash Gordon®\)]

And...expensive prescriptions, which are not on the medical plan.


| Rob
|
| I understand that Post Mac Syndrome is every bit as debilitating.. brought
| on by lack of features, I hear.. lol..
|
| --
| Mike Hall
| MVP - Windows Shell/User
|
| "If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would have kept
| it all to themselves." - Lane Kirkland
|
|
| message | She has PMS...Pre MAC Syndrome.
|
| I wonder if she's this annoying in real life? Could anyone be so rude in
| real life and live more than 20 years...I wonder?
|
|
|
|
|
| | | Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
| |
| |
| | >
| | >
| | > Er, yes, so what? What has "collaboration" got to do with anything? You
| are
| | > an idiot if you're having space issues on a new drive as the whole point
| of
| | > purchasing a new drive is to buy one larger than the one currently
| | > installed. You didn't appear to have done so which does make you rather
| an
| | > idiot, does it not...?
| | >
| | >
| | Geewiz...does simply contemplating switching to Mac's always produce
| | such psychotic and incoherent outburst?
| | Frank
|
|

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash Gordon®\)]

| Rob Giordano (Crash Gordon®) wrote:
|
| > She has PMS...Pre MAC Syndrome.
| >
| > I wonder if she's this annoying in real life? Could anyone be so rude in real life and live more than 20 years...I wonder?
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
| > |
| > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > Er, yes, so what? What has "collaboration" got to do with anything? You are
| > | > an idiot if you're having space issues on a new drive as the whole point of
| > | > purchasing a new drive is to buy one larger than the one currently
| > | > installed. You didn't appear to have done so which does make you rather an
| > | > idiot, does it not...?
| > | >
| > | >
| > | Geewiz...does simply contemplating switching to Mac's always produce
| > | such psychotic and incoherent outburst?
| > | Frank
|
| Hopefully not, unless she and boyfriend are into "slap around"!
| Although not surprising in today world, as I find a great many young
| people very rude and extremely stupid.
| I just thank G_d that at 6'3" and 210 lbs in my old age I can still
| knock the ritalin junkies on their dumb asses.
| Frank

I totally agree. Sheesh, they don't even speak the same language...and their writing is awful too.

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash Gordon®\)]

Yer livin' in a dream world if you think Macs haven't any problems. They don't overheat? Try one of their laptops on your laptop sometime! My best friend has had one replaced twice already due to overheating.


| Mike Hall (MS-MVP) wrote:
| > Rob
| >
| > I understand that Post Mac Syndrome is every bit as debilitating..
| > brought on by lack of features, I hear.. lol..
| >
|
| Oh yes, lack of features. The features lacked by Mac OS X
|
| BSODs
| Security holes
| Obscure error messages
| Microsoft
| A completely useless search feature
| Product activation
| Constant application reinstallation
| Constant OS reinstallation (my friend hasn't had to reinstall the OS on his
| Mac since he bought it. I've lost count of the number of times I've had to
| reinstall Windows in the 9 months since I bought this system).
| Random CPU usage for no reason
| And one of the best things about Macs? They can never *ever* overheat. It's
| impossible.
| Dual CPUs are good too. Two 64-bit 2.7GHz CPUs for the same price as I paid
| for this system with one 2.3GHz 64-bit CPU. Sounds like a bargain to me.
|
| Anyone who disses Macs has never used one (at least not within the last
| decade or so). Stones are always cast by the ignorant.
|
| So, Michael, tell me - what wonderful features does Windows have that the
| Mac OSX lacks? Do tell, I'm dying to know. I bet I can find an answer for
| every single one. Go on, seeing as you're obviously so knowledgeable - list
| the benefits of XP over Panther/Tiger. A dissertation, if you please, in no
| fewer than 5,000 words.
|
| I bet you £20 that you can't find a single feature that cannot be performed
| on a Mac.
|
| If you were educated on the topic, then I'd take your comments seriously, As
| you're not, all you do is make me giggle.
|
|
|
|

 

[Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)]

... and there was a case, aways back, where WordPerfect users found that Macs
were unable to support all of the features that a Windows OS could.. the Mac
version looked a little sad by comparison..

At the end of the day, it is the quality of applications that make a
platform worth having, and the constant reminder that "Macs have better
graphics" fails to cut it..

I visited some Mac forums after seeing a similar discussion elsewhere.. they
appear to have the same kind of problems as Windows/X86 users have.. so much
for the better graphics, eh..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User

"If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would have kept
it all to themselves." - Lane Kirkland


message Yer livin' in a dream world if you think Macs haven't any problems. They
don't overheat? Try one of their laptops on your laptop sometime! My best
friend has had one replaced twice already due to overheating.


| Mike Hall (MS-MVP) wrote:
| > Rob
| >
| > I understand that Post Mac Syndrome is every bit as debilitating..
| > brought on by lack of features, I hear.. lol..
| >
|
| Oh yes, lack of features. The features lacked by Mac OS X
|
| BSODs
| Security holes
| Obscure error messages
| Microsoft
| A completely useless search feature
| Product activation
| Constant application reinstallation
| Constant OS reinstallation (my friend hasn't had to reinstall the OS on
his
| Mac since he bought it. I've lost count of the number of times I've had to
| reinstall Windows in the 9 months since I bought this system).
| Random CPU usage for no reason
| And one of the best things about Macs? They can never *ever* overheat.
It's
| impossible.
| Dual CPUs are good too. Two 64-bit 2.7GHz CPUs for the same price as I
paid
| for this system with one 2.3GHz 64-bit CPU. Sounds like a bargain to me.
|
| Anyone who disses Macs has never used one (at least not within the last
| decade or so). Stones are always cast by the ignorant.
|
| So, Michael, tell me - what wonderful features does Windows have that the
| Mac OSX lacks? Do tell, I'm dying to know. I bet I can find an answer for
| every single one. Go on, seeing as you're obviously so knowledgeable -
list
| the benefits of XP over Panther/Tiger. A dissertation, if you please, in
no
| fewer than 5,000 words.
|
| I bet you £20 that you can't find a single feature that cannot be
performed
| on a Mac.
|
| If you were educated on the topic, then I'd take your comments seriously,
As
| you're not, all you do is make me giggle.
|
|
|
|

 

[Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)]

Sarah

I don't get: BSODS or obscure error messages.. I don't have a problem with
Microsoft or product activation.. search has always found stuff, assuming
that it still exists on the system.. I have never had to constantly
reinstall applications or the OS, and I have not noticed much random CPU
usage.. I know of a good few others personally who have a similar
experience, and I don't believe for one second that we are isolated cases..

Macs also have security holes for which they release patches.. what is so
different?.. if hackers targeted Mac users, they would be looking to
inconvenience how many people?.. they would get a bigger response if they
peed on a bus stop after midnight..

If only 'big numbers' were that important.. for many, they are not.. I have
an acquaintance in the UK who really believes that his dual CPU set up is
better than anything else.. lol.. he has to reload XP weekly almost, but
then he is a complete dork..

And yes, stones are always cast by the ignorant.. is that why you are
casting stones at Wintel now?.. I see that you still have no problem casting
stones at others.. of course, casting stones at Mac users is not so easy, is
it.. not so much a case of them having more class so much as they are not
too easy to locate..

I have friends who have owned Macs.. they had problems with them just like
all computer users get problems.. most could be put down to lack of ability
on the part of the user.. the same applies to UNIX/AIX and Linux users.. so
what's new?.. nobody considers Wintel to be perfect in every way, but then
neither are Macs.. perfection exists only in myth.. make the move to Mac by
all means, but do it quietly..


--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User

"If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would have kept
it all to themselves." - Lane Kirkland

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash Gordon®\)]

I'm still running W98se on a 500 mhz machine and I also haven't reformatted hd in 5 years..I run a clean machine. However, I earned my nickname, Crash, back in the W95 days when I had to reformat at least 1x a month...ok, well I was kinda a beta tester maniac back then

Point being...if you maintain the machine you'll have few problems. Most owners take no responsibility or have no knowledge in this area, and their machines are a disaster waiting to happen...put the key in, turn the key, put the pedal to the metal mentality.


| Sarah
|
| I don't get: BSODS or obscure error messages.. I don't have a problem with
| Microsoft or product activation.. search has always found stuff, assuming
| that it still exists on the system.. I have never had to constantly
| reinstall applications or the OS, and I have not noticed much random CPU
| usage.. I know of a good few others personally who have a similar
| experience, and I don't believe for one second that we are isolated cases..
|
| Macs also have security holes for which they release patches.. what is so
| different?.. if hackers targeted Mac users, they would be looking to
| inconvenience how many people?.. they would get a bigger response if they
| peed on a bus stop after midnight..
|
| If only 'big numbers' were that important.. for many, they are not.. I have
| an acquaintance in the UK who really believes that his dual CPU set up is
| better than anything else.. lol.. he has to reload XP weekly almost, but
| then he is a complete dork..
|
| And yes, stones are always cast by the ignorant.. is that why you are
| casting stones at Wintel now?.. I see that you still have no problem casting
| stones at others.. of course, casting stones at Mac users is not so easy, is
| it.. not so much a case of them having more class so much as they are not
| too easy to locate..
|
| I have friends who have owned Macs.. they had problems with them just like
| all computer users get problems.. most could be put down to lack of ability
| on the part of the user.. the same applies to UNIX/AIX and Linux users.. so
| what's new?.. nobody considers Wintel to be perfect in every way, but then
| neither are Macs.. perfection exists only in myth.. make the move to Mac by
| all means, but do it quietly..
|
|
| --
| Mike Hall
| MVP - Windows Shell/User
|
| "If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would have kept
| it all to themselves." - Lane Kirkland
|
|
| | > Mike Hall (MS-MVP) wrote:
| >> Rob
| >>
| >> I understand that Post Mac Syndrome is every bit as debilitating..
| >> brought on by lack of features, I hear.. lol..
| >>
| >
| > Oh yes, lack of features. The features lacked by Mac OS X
| >
| > BSODs
| > Security holes
| > Obscure error messages
| > Microsoft
| > A completely useless search feature
| > Product activation
| > Constant application reinstallation
| > Constant OS reinstallation (my friend hasn't had to reinstall the OS on
| > his Mac since he bought it. I've lost count of the number of times I've
| > had to reinstall Windows in the 9 months since I bought this system).
| > Random CPU usage for no reason
| > And one of the best things about Macs? They can never *ever* overheat.
| > It's impossible.
| > Dual CPUs are good too. Two 64-bit 2.7GHz CPUs for the same price as I
| > paid for this system with one 2.3GHz 64-bit CPU. Sounds like a bargain to
| > me.
| >
| > Anyone who disses Macs has never used one (at least not within the last
| > decade or so). Stones are always cast by the ignorant.
| >
| > So, Michael, tell me - what wonderful features does Windows have that the
| > Mac OSX lacks? Do tell, I'm dying to know. I bet I can find an answer for
| > every single one. Go on, seeing as you're obviously so knowledgeable -
| > list the benefits of XP over Panther/Tiger. A dissertation, if you please,
| > in no fewer than 5,000 words.
| >
| > I bet you £20 that you can't find a single feature that cannot be
| > performed on a Mac.
| >
| > If you were educated on the topic, then I'd take your comments seriously,
| > As you're not, all you do is make me giggle.
| >
| >
| >
| >
|
|

 

[JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]]

AMEN!! My system was about 4 years old when I reformatted for the first
time. And that was only because the wireless router/cable modem unit does
not play with Win 98. I put Win XP Pro on it. It's a 550 and runs as smooth
as silk. I maintain my system. Maybe not religiously, but I take care of it
because I cannot afford a new one yet. (Keith has already done a config for
his next one - $14K. Yes, I'm married to a crazy man. Ain't it a pity?)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



message I'm still running W98se on a 500 mhz machine and I also haven't reformatted
hd in 5 years..I run a clean machine. However, I earned my nickname, Crash,
back in the W95 days when I had to reformat at least 1x a month...ok, well I
was kinda a beta tester maniac back then

Point being...if you maintain the machine you'll have few problems. Most
owners take no responsibility or have no knowledge in this area, and their
machines are a disaster waiting to happen...put the key in, turn the key,
put the pedal to the metal mentality.


| Sarah
|
| I don't get: BSODS or obscure error messages.. I don't have a problem with
| Microsoft or product activation.. search has always found stuff, assuming
| that it still exists on the system.. I have never had to constantly
| reinstall applications or the OS, and I have not noticed much random CPU
| usage.. I know of a good few others personally who have a similar
| experience, and I don't believe for one second that we are isolated
cases..
|
| Macs also have security holes for which they release patches.. what is so
| different?.. if hackers targeted Mac users, they would be looking to
| inconvenience how many people?.. they would get a bigger response if they
| peed on a bus stop after midnight..
|
| If only 'big numbers' were that important.. for many, they are not.. I
have
| an acquaintance in the UK who really believes that his dual CPU set up is
| better than anything else.. lol.. he has to reload XP weekly almost, but
| then he is a complete dork..
|
| And yes, stones are always cast by the ignorant.. is that why you are
| casting stones at Wintel now?.. I see that you still have no problem
casting
| stones at others.. of course, casting stones at Mac users is not so easy,
is
| it.. not so much a case of them having more class so much as they are not
| too easy to locate..
|
| I have friends who have owned Macs.. they had problems with them just like
| all computer users get problems.. most could be put down to lack of
ability
| on the part of the user.. the same applies to UNIX/AIX and Linux users..
so
| what's new?.. nobody considers Wintel to be perfect in every way, but then
| neither are Macs.. perfection exists only in myth.. make the move to Mac
by
| all means, but do it quietly..
|
|
| --
| Mike Hall
| MVP - Windows Shell/User
|
| "If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would have kept
| it all to themselves." - Lane Kirkland
|
|
| | > Mike Hall (MS-MVP) wrote:
| >> Rob
| >>
| >> I understand that Post Mac Syndrome is every bit as debilitating..
| >> brought on by lack of features, I hear.. lol..
| >>
| >
| > Oh yes, lack of features. The features lacked by Mac OS X
| >
| > BSODs
| > Security holes
| > Obscure error messages
| > Microsoft
| > A completely useless search feature
| > Product activation
| > Constant application reinstallation
| > Constant OS reinstallation (my friend hasn't had to reinstall the OS on
| > his Mac since he bought it. I've lost count of the number of times I've
| > had to reinstall Windows in the 9 months since I bought this system).
| > Random CPU usage for no reason
| > And one of the best things about Macs? They can never *ever* overheat.
| > It's impossible.
| > Dual CPUs are good too. Two 64-bit 2.7GHz CPUs for the same price as I
| > paid for this system with one 2.3GHz 64-bit CPU. Sounds like a bargain
to
| > me.
| >
| > Anyone who disses Macs has never used one (at least not within the last
| > decade or so). Stones are always cast by the ignorant.
| >
| > So, Michael, tell me - what wonderful features does Windows have that
the
| > Mac OSX lacks? Do tell, I'm dying to know. I bet I can find an answer
for
| > every single one. Go on, seeing as you're obviously so knowledgeable -
| > list the benefits of XP over Panther/Tiger. A dissertation, if you
please,
| > in no fewer than 5,000 words.
| >
| > I bet you £20 that you can't find a single feature that cannot be
| > performed on a Mac.
| >
| > If you were educated on the topic, then I'd take your comments
seriously,
| > As you're not, all you do is make me giggle.
| >
| >
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash Gordon®\)]

Hey at least he's a technogeekazoid...could be worse! 14K though sheesh..I could build 7 machines for that money

I have my feet on my new machine...just too lazy to put it together..actually I need a new monitor. That's the last piece I need. Thinking of getting the Samsung T910(I think thats the model) 19" LCD...these CRT's are destroying my eyesight (seriously) - plus the gamma is totally wacked out on this 6 yr old puppy.


| AMEN!! My system was about 4 years old when I reformatted for the first
| time. And that was only because the wireless router/cable modem unit does
| not play with Win 98. I put Win XP Pro on it. It's a 550 and runs as smooth
| as silk. I maintain my system. Maybe not religiously, but I take care of it
| because I cannot afford a new one yet. (Keith has already done a config for
| his next one - $14K. Yes, I'm married to a crazy man. Ain't it a pity?)
|
| --
|
| JoAnn Paules
| MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
|
|
|
| message | I'm still running W98se on a 500 mhz machine and I also haven't reformatted
| hd in 5 years..I run a clean machine. However, I earned my nickname, Crash,
| back in the W95 days when I had to reformat at least 1x a month...ok, well I
| was kinda a beta tester maniac back then
|
| Point being...if you maintain the machine you'll have few problems. Most
| owners take no responsibility or have no knowledge in this area, and their
| machines are a disaster waiting to happen...put the key in, turn the key,
| put the pedal to the metal mentality.
|
|
| | | Sarah
| |
| | I don't get: BSODS or obscure error messages.. I don't have a problem with
| | Microsoft or product activation.. search has always found stuff, assuming
| | that it still exists on the system.. I have never had to constantly
| | reinstall applications or the OS, and I have not noticed much random CPU
| | usage.. I know of a good few others personally who have a similar
| | experience, and I don't believe for one second that we are isolated
| cases..
| |
| | Macs also have security holes for which they release patches.. what is so
| | different?.. if hackers targeted Mac users, they would be looking to
| | inconvenience how many people?.. they would get a bigger response if they
| | peed on a bus stop after midnight..
| |
| | If only 'big numbers' were that important.. for many, they are not.. I
| have
| | an acquaintance in the UK who really believes that his dual CPU set up is
| | better than anything else.. lol.. he has to reload XP weekly almost, but
| | then he is a complete dork..
| |
| | And yes, stones are always cast by the ignorant.. is that why you are
| | casting stones at Wintel now?.. I see that you still have no problem
| casting
| | stones at others.. of course, casting stones at Mac users is not so easy,
| is
| | it.. not so much a case of them having more class so much as they are not
| | too easy to locate..
| |
| | I have friends who have owned Macs.. they had problems with them just like
| | all computer users get problems.. most could be put down to lack of
| ability
| | on the part of the user.. the same applies to UNIX/AIX and Linux users..
| so
| | what's new?.. nobody considers Wintel to be perfect in every way, but then
| | neither are Macs.. perfection exists only in myth.. make the move to Mac
| by
| | all means, but do it quietly..
| |
| |
| | --
| | Mike Hall
| | MVP - Windows Shell/User
| |
| | "If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would have kept
| | it all to themselves." - Lane Kirkland
| |
| |
| | | | > Mike Hall (MS-MVP) wrote:
| | >> Rob
| | >>
| | >> I understand that Post Mac Syndrome is every bit as debilitating..
| | >> brought on by lack of features, I hear.. lol..
| | >>
| | >
| | > Oh yes, lack of features. The features lacked by Mac OS X
| | >
| | > BSODs
| | > Security holes
| | > Obscure error messages
| | > Microsoft
| | > A completely useless search feature
| | > Product activation
| | > Constant application reinstallation
| | > Constant OS reinstallation (my friend hasn't had to reinstall the OS on
| | > his Mac since he bought it. I've lost count of the number of times I've
| | > had to reinstall Windows in the 9 months since I bought this system).
| | > Random CPU usage for no reason
| | > And one of the best things about Macs? They can never *ever* overheat.
| | > It's impossible.
| | > Dual CPUs are good too. Two 64-bit 2.7GHz CPUs for the same price as I
| | > paid for this system with one 2.3GHz 64-bit CPU. Sounds like a bargain
| to
| | > me.
| | >
| | > Anyone who disses Macs has never used one (at least not within the last
| | > decade or so). Stones are always cast by the ignorant.
| | >
| | > So, Michael, tell me - what wonderful features does Windows have that
| the
| | > Mac OSX lacks? Do tell, I'm dying to know. I bet I can find an answer
| for
| | > every single one. Go on, seeing as you're obviously so knowledgeable -
| | > list the benefits of XP over Panther/Tiger. A dissertation, if you
| please,
| | > in no fewer than 5,000 words.
| | >
| | > I bet you £20 that you can't find a single feature that cannot be
| | > performed on a Mac.
| | >
| | > If you were educated on the topic, then I'd take your comments
| seriously,
| | > As you're not, all you do is make me giggle.
| | >
| | >
| | >
| | >
| |
| |
|
|

 

[JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]]

You can't ruin your eyes with a computer or a TV or anything like that. It
all boils down to the shape of your eyes - period.

And yes, he is a technogeekazoid. But I love that part of him. That $14K
system was what happens when you start taking every single option they have
available. The man rarely ever turns the sound on so why take the top of the
line speakers?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



message Hey at least he's a technogeekazoid...could be worse! 14K though sheesh..I
could build 7 machines for that money

I have my feet on my new machine...just too lazy to put it
together..actually I need a new monitor. That's the last piece I need.
Thinking of getting the Samsung T910(I think thats the model) 19"
LCD...these CRT's are destroying my eyesight (seriously) - plus the gamma is
totally wacked out on this 6 yr old puppy.


| AMEN!! My system was about 4 years old when I reformatted for the first
| time. And that was only because the wireless router/cable modem unit does
| not play with Win 98. I put Win XP Pro on it. It's a 550 and runs as
smooth
| as silk. I maintain my system. Maybe not religiously, but I take care of
it
| because I cannot afford a new one yet. (Keith has already done a config
for
| his next one - $14K. Yes, I'm married to a crazy man. Ain't it a pity?)
|
| --
|
| JoAnn Paules
| MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
|
|
|
| message | I'm still running W98se on a 500 mhz machine and I also haven't
reformatted
| hd in 5 years..I run a clean machine. However, I earned my nickname,
Crash,
| back in the W95 days when I had to reformat at least 1x a month...ok, well
I
| was kinda a beta tester maniac back then
|
| Point being...if you maintain the machine you'll have few problems. Most
| owners take no responsibility or have no knowledge in this area, and their
| machines are a disaster waiting to happen...put the key in, turn the key,
| put the pedal to the metal mentality.
|
|
| | | Sarah
| |
| | I don't get: BSODS or obscure error messages.. I don't have a problem
with
| | Microsoft or product activation.. search has always found stuff,
assuming
| | that it still exists on the system.. I have never had to constantly
| | reinstall applications or the OS, and I have not noticed much random CPU
| | usage.. I know of a good few others personally who have a similar
| | experience, and I don't believe for one second that we are isolated
| cases..
| |
| | Macs also have security holes for which they release patches.. what is
so
| | different?.. if hackers targeted Mac users, they would be looking to
| | inconvenience how many people?.. they would get a bigger response if
they
| | peed on a bus stop after midnight..
| |
| | If only 'big numbers' were that important.. for many, they are not.. I
| have
| | an acquaintance in the UK who really believes that his dual CPU set up
is
| | better than anything else.. lol.. he has to reload XP weekly almost, but
| | then he is a complete dork..
| |
| | And yes, stones are always cast by the ignorant.. is that why you are
| | casting stones at Wintel now?.. I see that you still have no problem
| casting
| | stones at others.. of course, casting stones at Mac users is not so
easy,
| is
| | it.. not so much a case of them having more class so much as they are
not
| | too easy to locate..
| |
| | I have friends who have owned Macs.. they had problems with them just
like
| | all computer users get problems.. most could be put down to lack of
| ability
| | on the part of the user.. the same applies to UNIX/AIX and Linux users..
| so
| | what's new?.. nobody considers Wintel to be perfect in every way, but
then
| | neither are Macs.. perfection exists only in myth.. make the move to Mac
| by
| | all means, but do it quietly..
| |
| |
| | --
| | Mike Hall
| | MVP - Windows Shell/User
| |
| | "If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would have
kept
| | it all to themselves." - Lane Kirkland
| |
| |
| | | | > Mike Hall (MS-MVP) wrote:
| | >> Rob
| | >>
| | >> I understand that Post Mac Syndrome is every bit as debilitating..
| | >> brought on by lack of features, I hear.. lol..
| | >>
| | >
| | > Oh yes, lack of features. The features lacked by Mac OS X
| | >
| | > BSODs
| | > Security holes
| | > Obscure error messages
| | > Microsoft
| | > A completely useless search feature
| | > Product activation
| | > Constant application reinstallation
| | > Constant OS reinstallation (my friend hasn't had to reinstall the OS
on
| | > his Mac since he bought it. I've lost count of the number of times
I've
| | > had to reinstall Windows in the 9 months since I bought this system).
| | > Random CPU usage for no reason
| | > And one of the best things about Macs? They can never *ever* overheat.
| | > It's impossible.
| | > Dual CPUs are good too. Two 64-bit 2.7GHz CPUs for the same price as I
| | > paid for this system with one 2.3GHz 64-bit CPU. Sounds like a bargain
| to
| | > me.
| | >
| | > Anyone who disses Macs has never used one (at least not within the
last
| | > decade or so). Stones are always cast by the ignorant.
| | >
| | > So, Michael, tell me - what wonderful features does Windows have that
| the
| | > Mac OSX lacks? Do tell, I'm dying to know. I bet I can find an answer
| for
| | > every single one. Go on, seeing as you're obviously so knowledgeable -
| | > list the benefits of XP over Panther/Tiger. A dissertation, if you
| please,
| | > in no fewer than 5,000 words.
| | >
| | > I bet you £20 that you can't find a single feature that cannot be
| | > performed on a Mac.
| | >
| | > If you were educated on the topic, then I'd take your comments
| seriously,
| | > As you're not, all you do is make me giggle.
| | >
| | >
| | >
| | >
| |
| |
|
|

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash Gordon®\)]

Then why are my eyes killing me after a long day looking at this monster? I think eyestrain can effect your eyesight over time. Besides, this is one of them old plutonium crts...maximum radiation available at the time ))




| You can't ruin your eyes with a computer or a TV or anything like that. It
| all boils down to the shape of your eyes - period.
|
| And yes, he is a technogeekazoid. But I love that part of him. That $14K
| system was what happens when you start taking every single option they have
| available. The man rarely ever turns the sound on so why take the top of the
| line speakers?
|
| --
|
| JoAnn Paules
| MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
|
|
|
| message | Hey at least he's a technogeekazoid...could be worse! 14K though sheesh..I
| could build 7 machines for that money
|
| I have my feet on my new machine...just too lazy to put it
| together..actually I need a new monitor. That's the last piece I need.
| Thinking of getting the Samsung T910(I think thats the model) 19"
| LCD...these CRT's are destroying my eyesight (seriously) - plus the gamma is
| totally wacked out on this 6 yr old puppy.
|
|
| | | AMEN!! My system was about 4 years old when I reformatted for the first
| | time. And that was only because the wireless router/cable modem unit does
| | not play with Win 98. I put Win XP Pro on it. It's a 550 and runs as
| smooth
| | as silk. I maintain my system. Maybe not religiously, but I take care of
| it
| | because I cannot afford a new one yet. (Keith has already done a config
| for
| | his next one - $14K. Yes, I'm married to a crazy man. Ain't it a pity?)
| |
| | --
| |
| | JoAnn Paules
| | MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
| |
| |
| |
| | message | | I'm still running W98se on a 500 mhz machine and I also haven't
| reformatted
| | hd in 5 years..I run a clean machine. However, I earned my nickname,
| Crash,
| | back in the W95 days when I had to reformat at least 1x a month...ok, well
| I
| | was kinda a beta tester maniac back then
| |
| | Point being...if you maintain the machine you'll have few problems. Most
| | owners take no responsibility or have no knowledge in this area, and their
| | machines are a disaster waiting to happen...put the key in, turn the key,
| | put the pedal to the metal mentality.
| |
| |
| | | | | Sarah
| | |
| | | I don't get: BSODS or obscure error messages.. I don't have a problem
| with
| | | Microsoft or product activation.. search has always found stuff,
| assuming
| | | that it still exists on the system.. I have never had to constantly
| | | reinstall applications or the OS, and I have not noticed much random CPU
| | | usage.. I know of a good few others personally who have a similar
| | | experience, and I don't believe for one second that we are isolated
| | cases..
| | |
| | | Macs also have security holes for which they release patches.. what is
| so
| | | different?.. if hackers targeted Mac users, they would be looking to
| | | inconvenience how many people?.. they would get a bigger response if
| they
| | | peed on a bus stop after midnight..
| | |
| | | If only 'big numbers' were that important.. for many, they are not.. I
| | have
| | | an acquaintance in the UK who really believes that his dual CPU set up
| is
| | | better than anything else.. lol.. he has to reload XP weekly almost, but
| | | then he is a complete dork..
| | |
| | | And yes, stones are always cast by the ignorant.. is that why you are
| | | casting stones at Wintel now?.. I see that you still have no problem
| | casting
| | | stones at others.. of course, casting stones at Mac users is not so
| easy,
| | is
| | | it.. not so much a case of them having more class so much as they are
| not
| | | too easy to locate..
| | |
| | | I have friends who have owned Macs.. they had problems with them just
| like
| | | all computer users get problems.. most could be put down to lack of
| | ability
| | | on the part of the user.. the same applies to UNIX/AIX and Linux users..
| | so
| | | what's new?.. nobody considers Wintel to be perfect in every way, but
| then
| | | neither are Macs.. perfection exists only in myth.. make the move to Mac
| | by
| | | all means, but do it quietly..
| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | Mike Hall
| | | MVP - Windows Shell/User
| | |
| | | "If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would have
| kept
| | | it all to themselves." - Lane Kirkland
| | |
| | |
| | | | | | > Mike Hall (MS-MVP) wrote:
| | | >> Rob
| | | >>
| | | >> I understand that Post Mac Syndrome is every bit as debilitating..
| | | >> brought on by lack of features, I hear.. lol..
| | | >>
| | | >
| | | > Oh yes, lack of features. The features lacked by Mac OS X
| | | >
| | | > BSODs
| | | > Security holes
| | | > Obscure error messages
| | | > Microsoft
| | | > A completely useless search feature
| | | > Product activation
| | | > Constant application reinstallation
| | | > Constant OS reinstallation (my friend hasn't had to reinstall the OS
| on
| | | > his Mac since he bought it. I've lost count of the number of times
| I've
| | | > had to reinstall Windows in the 9 months since I bought this system).
| | | > Random CPU usage for no reason
| | | > And one of the best things about Macs? They can never *ever* overheat.
| | | > It's impossible.
| | | > Dual CPUs are good too. Two 64-bit 2.7GHz CPUs for the same price as I
| | | > paid for this system with one 2.3GHz 64-bit CPU. Sounds like a bargain
| | to
| | | > me.
| | | >
| | | > Anyone who disses Macs has never used one (at least not within the
| last
| | | > decade or so). Stones are always cast by the ignorant.
| | | >
| | | > So, Michael, tell me - what wonderful features does Windows have that
| | the
| | | > Mac OSX lacks? Do tell, I'm dying to know. I bet I can find an answer
| | for
| | | > every single one. Go on, seeing as you're obviously so knowledgeable -
| | | > list the benefits of XP over Panther/Tiger. A dissertation, if you
| | please,
| | | > in no fewer than 5,000 words.
| | | >
| | | > I bet you £20 that you can't find a single feature that cannot be
| | | > performed on a Mac.
| | | >
| | | > If you were educated on the topic, then I'd take your comments
| | seriously,
| | | > As you're not, all you do is make me giggle.
| | | >
| | | >
| | | >
| | | >
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
|
|

 

[Frank]

You can't ruin your eyes with a computer or a TV or anything like that. It
all boils down to the shape of your eyes - period.

And yes, he is a technogeekazoid. But I love that part of him. That $14K
system was what happens when you start taking every single option they have
available. The man rarely ever turns the sound on so why take the top of the
line speakers?

No true. Just ask anyone who's been looking at crt's for years. Ruined
my eyes in my early twenties (forty yrs ago). The electron gun in the
back that aims and fires at the front is culprit.
Frank

 

[Ed Bennett]

BSODs

Yeah, Macs just freeze instead. No chance of troubleshooting that.

Security holes

Do you mean currently-exploited security holes? Every OS has security
holes, it's just that Windows has the biggest and most clueless user base,
so it is that that the hackers go for.

Obscure error messages

Not from what I've heard

Microsoft

Microsoft Office 2004? Microsoft Virtual PC for Mac? Microsoft Internet
Explorer for Mac?

A completely useless search feature

Can't argue with that.

Product activation
Blah.

Constant application reinstallation

I have only had to reinstall applications after reformatting.

Constant OS reinstallation (my friend hasn't had to reinstall the OS
on his Mac since he bought it. I've lost count of the number of times
I've had to reinstall Windows in the 9 months since I bought this
system).

I have had to reinstall Windows once, due to corruption from bad drivers.
On other machines, Windows reinstallas have been either to do with my
incompetence during hardware upgrades, or the fact that moving to a new
motherboard requires a reinstall. But moving to a new motherboard with
Windows XP is easy as a repair reinstallation - all settings, programs,
documents, everything is left intact.

Random CPU usage for no reason

How much usage?

And one of the best things about Macs? They can never *ever*
overheat. It's impossible.

Oh yeah? Care to explain that?

Dual CPUs are good too. Two 64-bit 2.7GHz CPUs for the same price as
I paid for this system with one 2.3GHz 64-bit CPU. Sounds like a
bargain to me.

Yeah, because it's all about the GHz, isn't it?

Anyone who disses Macs has never used one (at least not within the
last decade or so). Stones are always cast by the ignorant.

I don't diss Macs. Anyone who makes sweeping statements is an idiot.

I bet you £20 that you can't find a single feature that cannot be
performed on a Mac.

....at a price.

 

[Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]]

Oh yes, lack of features. The features lacked by Mac OS X
BSODs

Hmmm...I seem to lack them with my Windows XP machine.

Security holes

That is a lie. Mac has security holes.
Apple patches 20 security holes in Mac OS X:
http://stuff.techwhack.com/archives/2005/05/05/05052005-apple-patches-20-security-holes/

and

"Apple had also recently released patches for a range of potentially serious
kernel and browser flaws. In all we have seen patches for almost 30 bugs
released in the last couple of weeks. Apple said in a statement regarding
these updates: “A malformed TIFF image could contain parameters that result
in image data overwriting the heap. This issue has been addressed by adding
additional tests when calculating the space needed for an image.”

See in above link.

Obscure error messages

No doubt Windows has them. But Mac has them indeed. Yikes:
http://www.inforoots.org/aide/bidouille/MacErrorCodes.html

Microsoft

With their most recent drop in supporting IE for Mac, I would like to see
that trend continue. Mac isn't worth the time to delegate developer time for
IMO when it comes to Microsoft.

A completely useless search feature

Windows XP has found every file that I have ever looked for with no problem.
The newly released Desktop Search does an excellent search, similar to what
the search index does in Windows XP (except search index brings up system
files as well).

Product activation

Never affected me. I click on Activate, it's done. In a corporate
environment with multi licensed users, there is no activation.

Constant application reinstallation

I have never ONCE had to resinstall an application in Windows XP.

Constant OS reinstallation

I never ONCE "had" to reinstall my OS. I tend to beta test quite a bit, and
always updated to the latest and greatest. At work however, I don't have
that luxury. But I was running Windows XP on our system for the past 3.5
years, never had to reinstall...never a BSOD. Never had to reinstall an
app.Our new systems are all running XP SP2 and the server has W2k3. Runs
beautifully.

(my friend hasn't had to reinstall the OS on hisMac since he bought it.
I've lost count of the number of times I've had to reinstall Windows in
the 9 months since I bought this system).

Your friend sounds like he has had the same experience with his Mac as I
have had with Windows XP. Awesome!

Random CPU usage for no reason

Always a reason for CPU usages. I have never had excessive or "unknown"
usage.

And one of the best things about Macs? They can never *ever* overheat.
It's impossible.

As my friend Charlie "just" sent his work iBook in for overheating no less
than a month ago. Granted it was still under warranty.

Anyone who disses Macs has never used one (at least not within the last
decade or so). Stones are always cast by the ignorant.

We have a Mac OSx in our print area at our store. Believe me, I KNOW how
they run.

So, Michael, tell me - what wonderful features does Windows have that the
Mac OSX lacks?

Oh..whoops! Adobe drops Framemaker for Mac OSX. Only Windows will get new
versions of FrameMaker. Good luck with THAT one! P

Do tell, I'm dying to know. I bet I can find an answer for

every single one. Go on, seeing as you're obviously so knowledgeable -
list the benefits of XP over Panther/Tiger. A dissertation, if you please,
in no fewer than 5,000 words.

I bet you £20 that you can't find a single feature that cannot be
performed on a Mac.

If you were educated on the topic, then I'd take your comments seriously,
As you're not, all you do is make me giggle.

--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com

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