Repagination

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LEU

After converting a WordPerfect document and running my macros, the last thing
Word automatically runs repaginating document. Depending on the size of the
document this takes some time. Is this sometime that is required or can this
be turned off?

LEU
 
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Jay Freedman

After converting a WordPerfect document and running my macros, the last thing
Word automatically runs repaginating document. Depending on the size of the
document this takes some time. Is this sometime that is required or can this
be turned off?

LEU

If you go to Normal view (renamed Draft view in Word 2007), then you can go into
the options dialog and turn off "background repagination" (on the General tab,
or in Advanced > General in Word 2007). As soon as you switch to Print Layout
view, that will force repagination to happen.

If you want your macros -- whatever they are -- to turn off pagination, include
these lines:

ActiveWindow.View = wdNormalView
Options.Pagination = False
 
L

LEU

Thank you for the information Jay.



Jay Freedman said:
If you go to Normal view (renamed Draft view in Word 2007), then you can go into
the options dialog and turn off "background repagination" (on the General tab,
or in Advanced > General in Word 2007). As soon as you switch to Print Layout
view, that will force repagination to happen.

If you want your macros -- whatever they are -- to turn off pagination, include
these lines:

ActiveWindow.View = wdNormalView
Options.Pagination = False

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Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
 
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HECTOR

For years I've kept my journal in MS Word. It's now over 1000 pages long.
About a month ago I got a new computer and it came with Word 2007. For
awhile it was working alright. Now it's repaginating the document every 30
seconds or so and it freezes the document while doing so. I want to have it
in *print layout* because the document contains a background and many
pictures. Still I have no intention of printing the document. There MUST be
a way to fix this bug, to keep Word from repaginating a 1014 page document
2-4 times every minute. This is a bug that must be fixed!!
 
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Doug Robbins - Word MVP

If I was disciplined enough to keep a journal, I would use separate
documents for smaller increments of time and upon completion of each time
increment/document, I would convert it to .pdf format and to create a single
document, I would use the ability of Adobe Acrobat to create a .pdf from
mulitple files. Especially if the document contains a background and many
pictures.

This assumes of course that when you are creating the journal entry for the
current time increment, you have no need to edit journal entries for long
past increments of time.

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Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com
 
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Graham Mayor

Word is not a page layout application and if you work in print layout view
it will constantly re-paginate according to the editing requirements of the
document and the current printer driver. Up to a certain point Word will do
all of this in memory and fairly transparently, but as the document grows
the pagination becomes more obvious. Your choices are to work in normal view
with background pagination turned off, or break up the document into more
manageable sections for later combination into a viewable document - to
which end Doug's suggestion of using Acrobat format is one I would echo.

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HECTOR

Thanks for your answer but you're overlooking the problem.

Why does my document repaginate every 56 seconds (now I've timed it) whether
I'm typing or scrolling or even not doing anything at all? There's no need
for it to repaginate whatever anyone says. I'm not doing anything, just
staring at the screen, and every minute or so my document freezes while it
repaginates. It also bears mentioning that I have no printed attached to my
computer so it's no printer driver doing this. It's MS Word.

The Word team at MS has set up a default rate of repagination whether it
needs it or not. This was a pinhead thing to do and it needs to be
corrected. I have found two things in my search to fix this problem:

1. MS experts (like in this forum) saying there's no solution, get used to
it or change your habits and do something else

2. People telling how much of a bad product MS Word is and to use something
else like Wordperfect.

While I appreciate the answers and help you and Doug (again, many thanks,
are MS MVPs and your solution is to use Adobe Acrobat?! Word has a
documented problem, something many people are complaining about, and MS
experts say... use something else. Super.

I always give MS the benefit of the doubt but this is unbelievable that they
would put such an annoying and COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY feature in one of their
most important pieces of software and expect me, THE CONSUMER, to adjust to
it.

BTW, this did not happen in my old computer with Word 2003 on it. Now I
have a new one with 4 times the computing power, more than double the memory
and Word 2007. And I get to be annoyed every 56 seconds. Well done MS.
 
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Graham Mayor

Don't shoot the messenger. Neither Doug nor I work for or speak for
Microsoft. This is merely a user peer groups and we are simply fellow users
who have the time and inclination to offer what expertise we have for the
benefit of others.

To test out your premise that the document repaginates every 56 seconds, I
created a document or 1250 pages. The only times the document 'repaginated'
occurred when I made edits within the body of the document that altered the
page length. Even when I increased this simple text document to 9000 pages,
the only time it repaginated was when I made a change in the document that
altered the page length.

If your document is automatically repaginating every 56 seconds, it does not
appear to be attributable to a built in function of Word 2007, which
constantly monitors page formatting as I sugegsted earlier.

My guesses are that there is some corruption in the document associated with
the conversion to 2007, you have some third party software that is
interfering with the process and/or you have an over enthusiastic anti-virus
software that is constantly monitoring the document. If the latter is the
case, then switch off the document checking part of your AV software as you
are not going to get viruses in documents you create yourself, and documents
you receive from others are checked by alternative means.

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HECTOR

Many thanks again for your response. Sorry, I may not be entirely clear on
your relationship with MS. I'm pissed at them, not at the people trying to
help.

Following your suggestions I have configured my antivirus to completely
ignore the entire folder in which this document and most (if not all) of the
files attached to it are. That didn't work out, repagination continues every
56 seconds (even as I'm typing this in my browser the screen flickers for a
millisecond every time Word repaginates in the background).

Then I edited the macros I use to enter the date and time. That didn't work
either.

Am I altering the page length somehow? I don't think so. I just open the
document, put in the date and time and type away. I sometimes insert
pictures or a hyperlink but it's nothing that I haven't done many times
before, and before I didn't have this problem.

So if it's not doing it for you then it must be something I'm doing
inadvertently but since I'm not doing anything I was doing before it's
difficult to pinpoint what it is.

Following other advise on the next I copied the entire text and pasted it
onto a blank document. That didn't work. Then I saved is as a web page (not
filtered) and then saved the webpage back to a Word document. That didn't
work. I just have to figure out what has changed in my document that is
causing this behavior when it doesn't cause it in yours.

Any other thoughts?
 
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Graham Mayor

Asking your AV software not to check a particular folder is not going to
help (should AV be the issue). It is not AV file checking that is the
problem, but the active checking of the document while you type it. Some AV
software, such as AVG, and at least some versions of Norton - and probably
others - have modules that actively check the documents. It is this module
that needs to be addressed.

In some versions of Norton you can turn it off from the Options, in other
versions of Norton it may be necessary to unregister the calling DLL by
running the following command line from Windows > Start > Run

regsvr32 /u "c:\program files\norton antivirus\officeav.dll"
or
regsvr32 /u "c:\program files\norton systemworks\norton
antivirus\officeav.dll"

The AVG antivirus software, could be treated similarly. In this instance
(check the path)

regsvr32 /u "C:\Program Files\AVG\AVG8\avgoff2k.dll"

though deselecting the option from setup is a better approach. For other AV
software you will need to consult the appropriate software forums.

If that doesn't fix it, I have no idea what the problem might be.

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HECTOR

An update but not a solution.

I opened my document with Word 2003 and the repagination problem is not
repeated there. Word 2003 does not repaginate my document every minute.

I saved the document as a simple .doc instead of .docx document. I had
hoped that whatever was causing the repagination problem in Word 2007 would
be fooled by the change in extension.

It didn't.

After opening the .doc document with Word 2007 the program repaginates the
document every minute.

Still looking for a solution. If anyone knows how to stop this incredibly
annoying issue please post it. Thanks.
 
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Jarbees

Hey HECTOR,

I had the same problem as you and tried all kinds of things:

- new install of Office 2007: didn't work
- another install of Office 2007 (Dutch version): didn't work
- opened an empty document: didn't work although the repaginating time is
much smaller of course
- opened txt documents: didn't work
- opened the document on another PC with the same Office 2007 installed:
didn't have the repaginating problem
- ...

Finally, I found the solution!!!

It has absolutely NOTHING to do with my Office 2007 installation! I have a
program installed that rotates my desktop wallpaper (Desktop Slideshow) and
every time it changed my desktop background, Word 2007 starts repaginating:
GO FIGURE!

Anyway, I suggest you start looking for some program that updates something
on your PC every 30 seconds (for me it was every 8 seconds).

Hope this solves it for you as it did for me.

Jarbees
 

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