Turning pages into files

[orspine]

Using Publisher 2003 - I am writing a hiking book of 100 hikes. I was advised
in a self publishing class to use the Publisher program and to make each hike
a "page". So I have done this and have a 105 page document. Each page has a
picture, map and written paragraph or two of one of the 100 mhikes.

Now I have been told I should have made each hike a separate folder so I can
go in and work on each hike w/o opening all the pages and having to scroll
through. I have also been told that each time I open this document, it
denegrates the pictures over time with the constant opening and closing of
the doc even though I am only working on one specific hike page.

When I am on a page and click to "save" it under a specific hike name, all
105 pages are then saved under that name, not just the one page. QUESTION: Is
there a simple way to save each page as a separate folder?

 

[vanilla]

Hello, orspine ... you said:

" ... I have also been told that each time I open this document, it
denegrates the pictures over time with the constant opening and closing of
the doc even though I am only working on one specific hike page. "

I may be all wet, but I found this to be true when creating movies that
imported .jpg stills. Each time I saved my project, the lossy .jpg would
lossy again. I did not realize this was happening until after I had deleted
my original source project files.

Someone else may post a better solution, but the first thing I would try is
linking to the pictures instead of embedding and using a placeholder (gray
box, maybe with a big X in it) for the position of the picture on your page.

Rename the publisher file each time you do a major edit. (I have been known
to be on Project27.pub before naming a Project.final.pub.) In the final
save, embed picture files below 100K and continue to link to any larger
picture files. You can then have the smaller pictures show in your
publication and have thumbnails show for the larger linked pictures instead
of
the placeholders. If you will package for prepress, get with your prepress
provider on their preferences.

This may not work to prevent the degradation of .jpg quality but this is
what I would try ... ymmv ... also, in Publisher, click on Help, Publisher
Tasks,
then Tips for Working With Images (or something like that) ... there is a
great table about halfway down or so that gives details on pros and cons for
various image formats.

As for the folders thing ... I am afraid I don't understand that part ...
sorry ... best of luck ... vanilla

 

[Mary Sauer]

Copy the page, open a new instance of Publisher, paste... save as.

Are you sure your pictures are degrading? Could be the file is getting so large
Publisher is having problems re-drawing. Is detailed display enabled in View,
pictures? Are you planning to print this book?

 

[Ed Bennett]

Now I have been told I should have made each hike a separate folder so I can
go in and work on each hike w/o opening all the pages and having to scroll
through.

And then when you go to print the file you have to recombine them all.
If your system can handle having the entire document open at once, keep
it that way. If it can't, split the file into the minimum number of
subfiles.

I have also been told that each time I open this document, it
denegrates the pictures over time with the constant opening and closing of
the doc even though I am only working on one specific hike page.

That is simply not true. If the file were a JPEG file, then yes,
opening, saving, closing will degrade the quality. Publisher files are
not JPEG files. Although they have JPEG data in, this is left unchanged
on saving.

When I am on a page and click to "save" it under a specific hike name, all
105 pages are then saved under that name, not just the one page. QUESTION: Is
there a simple way to save each page as a separate folder?

Mary's already made helpful suggestions, so I'll just point out that
instead of "folder", you mean "file". A folder (also known as a
directory) is a container in which files go. Your hard disk is made up
of folders within folders, most of which contain files. "My Documents"
is an example of a folder.

 

[orspine]

Thanks for the reply. I am not sure if the pics are degrading as I stopped
opening the file once I heard ithis was a possibility. And you are right, the
115 pages are way too cumbersome to get between "hikes" as I add and revise.
That is the essence of my question. How can I get the 115 pages that are now
in one file, into 115 separate hike files so I can go in and out of each
"hike file " w/o having all the others mixed in. I don't think cut and paste
will work as each hike page is made up of more than just text.

The only thing I can think of is saving the entire file as "page 1". Then
delete pages 2 through 115 and save again so only page 1 is saved in the page
1 file. Repeat for page 2, 3, 4 and so on. This sounds too labor intensive
but may be the only way. Yes I do intend to self ppublish as a local interest
book. Thanks!

 

[orspine]

Thanks for your thoughts. See my reply to "Mary" and see if that makes more
sense (about the file issue) Thanks again!

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

Opening and closing a page will not degrade the image.

Opening, editing the image, and resaving it (the image file) will slightly
degrade the image over time if the image is in a lossy format ie; .jpg,
..jpeg.



--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression





| Thanks for your thoughts. See my reply to "Mary" and see if that makes
more
| sense (about the file issue) Thanks again!
| --
| HikeWriter
|
|
| "vanilla" wrote:
|
| > Hello, orspine ... you said:
| >
| > " ... I have also been told that each time I open this document, it
| > denegrates the pictures over time with the constant opening and closing
of
| > the doc even though I am only working on one specific hike page. "
| >
| > I may be all wet, but I found this to be true when creating movies that
| > imported .jpg stills. Each time I saved my project, the lossy .jpg would
| > lossy again. I did not realize this was happening until after I had
deleted
| > my original source project files.
| >
| > Someone else may post a better solution, but the first thing I would try
is
| > linking to the pictures instead of embedding and using a placeholder
(gray
| > box, maybe with a big X in it) for the position of the picture on your
page.
| >
| > Rename the publisher file each time you do a major edit. (I have been
known
| > to be on Project27.pub before naming a Project.final.pub.) In the final
| > save, embed picture files below 100K and continue to link to any larger
| > picture files. You can then have the smaller pictures show in your
| > publication and have thumbnails show for the larger linked pictures
instead
| > of
| > the placeholders. If you will package for prepress, get with your
prepress
| > provider on their preferences.
| >
| > This may not work to prevent the degradation of .jpg quality but this is
| > what I would try ... ymmv ... also, in Publisher, click on Help,
Publisher
| > Tasks,
| > then Tips for Working With Images (or something like that) ... there is
a
| > great table about halfway down or so that gives details on pros and cons
for
| > various image formats.
| >
| > As for the folders thing ... I am afraid I don't understand that part
....
| > sorry ... best of luck ... vanilla
| >
| >
| > | > > Using Publisher 2003 - I am writing a hiking book of 100 hikes. I was
| > > advised
| > > in a self publishing class to use the Publisher program and to make
each
| > > hike
| > > a "page". So I have done this and have a 105 page document. Each page
has
| > > a
| > > picture, map and written paragraph or two of one of the 100 mhikes.
| > >
| > > Now I have been told I should have made each hike a separate folder so
I
| > > can
| > > go in and work on each hike w/o opening all the pages and having to
scroll
| > > through. I have also been told that each time I open this document, it
| > > denegrates the pictures over time with the constant opening and
closing of
| > > the doc even though I am only working on one specific hike page.
| > >
| > > When I am on a page and click to "save" it under a specific hike name,
all
| > > 105 pages are then saved under that name, not just the one page.
QUESTION:
| > > Is
| > > there a simple way to save each page as a separate folder?
| > > --
| > > HikeWriter
| >
| >

 

[orspine]

Thanks!
--
HikeWriter

Opening and closing a page will not degrade the image.

Opening, editing the image, and resaving it (the image file) will slightly
degrade the image over time if the image is in a lossy format ie; .jpg,
..jpeg.



--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression





| Thanks for your thoughts. See my reply to "Mary" and see if that makes
more
| sense (about the file issue) Thanks again!
| --
| HikeWriter
|
|
| "vanilla" wrote:
|
| > Hello, orspine ... you said:
| >
| > " ... I have also been told that each time I open this document, it
| > denegrates the pictures over time with the constant opening and closing
of
| > the doc even though I am only working on one specific hike page. "
| >
| > I may be all wet, but I found this to be true when creating movies that
| > imported .jpg stills. Each time I saved my project, the lossy .jpg would
| > lossy again. I did not realize this was happening until after I had
deleted
| > my original source project files.
| >
| > Someone else may post a better solution, but the first thing I would try
is
| > linking to the pictures instead of embedding and using a placeholder
(gray
| > box, maybe with a big X in it) for the position of the picture on your
page.
| >
| > Rename the publisher file each time you do a major edit. (I have been
known
| > to be on Project27.pub before naming a Project.final.pub.) In the final
| > save, embed picture files below 100K and continue to link to any larger
| > picture files. You can then have the smaller pictures show in your
| > publication and have thumbnails show for the larger linked pictures
instead
| > of
| > the placeholders. If you will package for prepress, get with your
prepress
| > provider on their preferences.
| >
| > This may not work to prevent the degradation of .jpg quality but this is
| > what I would try ... ymmv ... also, in Publisher, click on Help,
Publisher
| > Tasks,
| > then Tips for Working With Images (or something like that) ... there is
a
| > great table about halfway down or so that gives details on pros and cons
for
| > various image formats.
| >
| > As for the folders thing ... I am afraid I don't understand that part
....
| > sorry ... best of luck ... vanilla
| >
| >
| > | > > Using Publisher 2003 - I am writing a hiking book of 100 hikes. I was
| > > advised
| > > in a self publishing class to use the Publisher program and to make
each
| > > hike
| > > a "page". So I have done this and have a 105 page document. Each page
has
| > > a
| > > picture, map and written paragraph or two of one of the 100 mhikes.
| > >
| > > Now I have been told I should have made each hike a separate folder so
I
| > > can
| > > go in and work on each hike w/o opening all the pages and having to
scroll
| > > through. I have also been told that each time I open this document, it
| > > denegrates the pictures over time with the constant opening and
closing of
| > > the doc even though I am only working on one specific hike page.
| > >
| > > When I am on a page and click to "save" it under a specific hike name,
all
| > > 105 pages are then saved under that name, not just the one page.
QUESTION:
| > > Is
| > > there a simple way to save each page as a separate folder?
| > > --
| > > HikeWriter
| >
| >

 

[vanilla]

Hi, orspine ... just found something that might work ...

I opened a publication that had multiple pages. I did a Select All on the
first page. I broke the link to text that was flowing to subsequent pages so
the page would stand alone.

I then went to the tasks pane on the left. I clicked on Publisher Tasks.
Down at the bottom, there is an item called "save for reuse". I clicked on
that. Then, I clicked on "Store text and images for reuse". At the bottom, I
clicked on "Add selected items to Content Library". I then created a new
category called "Export Pages" (you can just use one of the defaults). I
saved the selected page, with all elements, to the Content Library.

Then I opened a new publication. The thought then occurred to me that I
should have made a template to match my original publication before hand.
(You should do that first.)

In the new publication, I went to the Insert Menu, scrolled down to Content
Library, and there it was ... my first page from the other publication. I
selected it in the Content Library, clicked on the arrow strip on the right,
and selected Insert.

Voila ... you can do this with every page in your publication to export each
page to its own publication.

Just a suggestion ... vanilla

 

[vanilla]

A few more thoughts ... you should do "Save As" first with a different pub
name, like ExportPages01.pub, to preserve your original pub with all 115
pages. Do the copying to Content Library from the duplicated pub.

Go to the page you want to "export", do a CTRL A to select all elements on
the page (if you have text that flows to a subsequent page, remember to
break the link first), then add each page as an item in your Content
Library. As you are working through the pages, you will end up with many
items in your Content Library. You could do, say, ten pages saved to their
own publications, then delete the first five pages saved to Content Library
in the pub from which you are saving the individual pages in order to make
room for the next five.

In your post you talked about saving the original pub to a different file,
then deleting all the pages except the next one you needed to be by itself
in a pub (my paraphrasing). I have actually done that in the past and that
is what triggered my memory about using the Design Gallery long ago. Pub
2007 still has the Design Gallery, I see, but also this Content Library ...
that may have been in 2002 and I just don't remember it. Way back when, I
remember doing this very type of thing using the Design Gallery.

Just a suggestion ... vanilla

 

[Mary Sauer]

Vanilla, Your method is new to 2007. Saved content was introduced in 2007, the
OP has publisher 2003.

 

[vanilla]

OK ... thanks ... the last version I had was 2002 and I used the Design
Gallery back then, adding my own content, which would then be available in a
new pub ... that was how I got around having to duplicate pubs and then
delete all the other pages (g) ... thanks ... vanilla

 

[Mary Sauer]

No version of Publisher saved content in the Design Gallery from one publication
to the next. You are mis-remembering.