Unable to select Toolbars in View menu in Trial version of Project

S

shep

Unable to select Toolbars in View menu in Trial version of MS Project. Is it
not available in the trial version? I want to experiment with "Run the
Adjust Dates macro" before pruchasing full version.
 
J

JulieS

Hello Shep,

It sounds as though the Analysis Toolbar is not visible. Are other
toolbars -- can you show and/or hide the Resource Management
toolbar?

I assume you are using the Project 2007 Trial version. Have you
activated the installation and exited since installing? Have you
restarted your operating system?

I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.

Julie
Project MVP

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional
information about Microsoft Project
 
R

Reid McTaggart

Try this:

Right-click on some part of the existing menu area, then se if you can
select "Analysis."
 
S

shep

JulieS said:
Hello Shep,

It sounds as though the Analysis Toolbar is not visible. Are other
toolbars -- can you show and/or hide the Resource Management
toolbar?

I assume you are using the Project 2007 Trial version. Have you
activated the installation and exited since installing? Have you
restarted your operating system?

I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.

Julie
Project MVP

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional
information about Microsoft Project



It did help to restart my computer. Then I was able to click on toolbars in the View menu. However, the analysis toolbar was not an option from there.
 
J

JulieS

shep said:
It did help to restart my computer. Then I was able to click on
toolbars in the View menu. >However, the analysis toolbar was not
an option from there.

Hi shep,

Okay it sounds like the Analysis toolbar which is actually a series
of COM add-ins is not working correctly. See if following the steps
at FAQ 46 "Analysis Toolbar (Project 2000+) at:

http://project.mvps.org/faqs.htm

helps. Post back with the results, particularly if things don't
work.

Julie
 
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shep

Julie, I'm getting a little pressure from my employer to determine if
Microsoft Office Project Professional 2007 software will work in the manner
that he needs. Are there versions that offer different features? Is there any
chance that we can have a phone conversation about this?
Shep
 
R

Rob Schneider

There are two versions of Project: Standard and Professional. Both are
identical except that Professional connects with Project Server. This
all explained at
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/project/FX101759351033.aspx

There are also some terrific published books which are ubiquitiously
available in physical and online bookstores that explain a lot about
Project.

Project is not a "simple" application. It is a sophisticated
calculation engine that computes project schedules along with a lot of
other feature to make it useful to people who have to deal with all the
data associated with project cost/schedules.

--rms
 
J

JulieS

Hi Shep,

Take a read through the URL that Rob listed. If you still can't see
your way clear, post back and I'll post my email address. I'm on
the east coast of the US, so I don't know if a phone call will work
depending upon where you are.

Julie
 
S

shep

Thanks for the response. I looked at the URL and read, "Microsoft Office
Project Professional 2007 includes all the capabilities in Office Project
Standard 2007. In addition, Office Project Professional 2007 provides
collaborative enterprise project management capabilities when used with
Microsoft Office Project Server 2007."
I am new at this so I don't know if Microsoft Office Project Server 2007 is
something that we need. Therefore, do we need Microsoft Office Project
Professional 2007 or will Microsoft Office Project Standard 2007 be
sufficient? Our main goal is to set up a calendar for all of our projects. We
are a small, very high-end custom home builder. Over half of our projects
involve home repairs and remodeling. All of our projects need to be scheduled
on one calendar. We would like to make sure that if we delay the start of a
project by 2 weeks, it will move all subs (sub-contractors) for that project
forward by 2 weeks on the calendar. There are two of us in the office that
will be entering the data. If we can get by with the less expensive Microsoft
Office Project Standard 2007, that would be great.
Another issue we would like to resolve from an accounting standpoint is, we
would like to be able to enter all of the bids for a project in the computer
and as we pay the invoices, have those amounts deducted from the bid amounts.
This will avoid our overpaying a sub or in the case of a sub that is
negligent in his invoicing, avoid having to pay an invoice well after the
project is finished. Our projects often involve "green" and high tech
building techniques. On these projects, we have twice as many subs and twice
as many suppliers as a builder would have on a tract home. Some of the
projects are so detailed that it takes 2 years to complete. Does either
Microsoft Office Project Standard or Professional 2007 offer a feature that
would cover that need? Repeating that our main goal is to set up a calendar
and the accounting is a secondary need, if we need to purchase different
software for each purpose, so be it.
If you would prefer a phone conversation to posting here, my phone number is
832-687-8685.
Your input is greatly appreciated!
Shep
 
J

JulieS

Hello shep,

My comments are inline below.

shep said:
Thanks for the response. I looked at the URL and read, "Microsoft
Office
Project Professional 2007 includes all the capabilities in Office
Project
Standard 2007. In addition, Office Project Professional 2007
provides
collaborative enterprise project management capabilities when used
with
Microsoft Office Project Server 2007."
I am new at this so I don't know if Microsoft Office Project
Server 2007 is
something that we need. Therefore, do we need Microsoft Office
Project
Professional 2007 or will Microsoft Office Project Standard 2007
be
sufficient?

[Julie] The only reason to invest in Project Professional is if you
intend to purchase and implement Project Server. Otherwise, save
the money and purchase Project Standard.
Our main goal is to set up a calendar for all of our projects. We
are a small, very high-end custom home builder. Over half of our
projects
involve home repairs and remodeling. All of our projects need to
be scheduled
on one calendar.

[Julie] Entirely do-able with Project. Be aware though, Project
will require investment in time and effort for both you and the
other person in your office to use it effectively.
We would like to make sure that if we delay the start of a
project by 2 weeks, it will move all subs (sub-contractors) for
that project
forward by 2 weeks on the calendar. There are two of us in the
office that
will be entering the data. If we can get by with the less
expensive Microsoft
Office Project Standard 2007, that would be great.

[Julie] Yes, go with Standard.
Another issue we would like to resolve from an accounting
standpoint is, we
would like to be able to enter all of the bids for a project in
the computer
and as we pay the invoices, have those amounts deducted from the
bid amounts.
This will avoid our overpaying a sub or in the case of a sub that
is
negligent in his invoicing, avoid having to pay an invoice well
after the
project is finished.

[Julie] This is more of an issue for an accounting package than
Project. Project will allow you to enter pricing from your subs as
either a flat amount per job or job component or an hourly rate.
Based upon actual data, Project will calculate and actual cost and
remaining costs based upon progress. However, trying to use Project
to keep track of payments, I think you'll find it not a great fit.
Our projects often involve "green" and high tech
building techniques. On these projects, we have twice as many subs
and twice
as many suppliers as a builder would have on a tract home. Some of
the
projects are so detailed that it takes 2 years to complete. Does
either
Microsoft Office Project Standard or Professional 2007 offer a
feature that
would cover that need?

[Julie] Project will help you construct your projects by creating
tasks, resources, relationships between task and resource
assignments. The idea of multiple resources, multi-year projects --
not a problem for Project Standard.
Repeating that our main goal is to set up a calendar
and the accounting is a secondary need, if we need to purchase
different
software for each purpose, so be it.

[Julie] First, I suggest finding a reputable software training
company where you could take a two-day "introduction" class in
Project. I'm sure that somewhere in your area there is one offered.
Next, download the trial version of project and dive in. Fellow
MVP, Mike Glen has an excellent series on free on-line tutorial to
get you pointed in the right direction. You may find Mike's
tutorials through:

http://project.mvps.org/mike's_tutorials.htm
If you would prefer a phone conversation to posting here, my phone
number is
832-687-8685.
Your input is greatly appreciated!
Shep
<snip>
I hope this helps.

Julie
 
S

shep

shep said:
Thanks for the response. I looked at the URL and read, "Microsoft Office
Project Professional 2007 includes all the capabilities in Office Project
Standard 2007. In addition, Office Project Professional 2007 provides
collaborative enterprise project management capabilities when used with
Microsoft Office Project Server 2007."
I am new at this so I don't know if Microsoft Office Project Server 2007 is
something that we need. Therefore, do we need Microsoft Office Project
Professional 2007 or will Microsoft Office Project Standard 2007 be
sufficient? Our main goal is to set up a calendar for all of our projects. We
are a small, very high-end custom home builder. Over half of our projects
involve home repairs and remodeling. All of our projects need to be scheduled
on one calendar. We would like to make sure that if we delay the start of a
project by 2 weeks, it will move all subs (sub-contractors) for that project
forward by 2 weeks on the calendar. There are two of us in the office that
will be entering the data. If we can get by with the less expensive Microsoft
Office Project Standard 2007, that would be great.
Another issue we would like to resolve from an accounting standpoint is, we
would like to be able to enter all of the bids for a project in the computer
and as we pay the invoices, have those amounts deducted from the bid amounts.
This will avoid our overpaying a sub or in the case of a sub that is
negligent in his invoicing, avoid having to pay an invoice well after the
project is finished. Our projects often involve "green" and high tech
building techniques. On these projects, we have twice as many subs and twice
as many suppliers as a builder would have on a tract home. Some of the
projects are so detailed that it takes 2 years to complete. Does either
Microsoft Office Project Standard or Professional 2007 offer a feature that
would cover that need? Repeating that our main goal is to set up a calendar
and the accounting is a secondary need, if we need to purchase different
software for each purpose, so be it.
If you would prefer a phone conversation to posting here, my phone number is
832-687-8685.
Your input is greatly appreciated!
Shep
 
J

JulieS

After reading your reply, I started to order the Standard version
from Office Depot and found that Standard was $599.99 but
Professional was only $167.95. We have to wait for mail delivery
but for that savings it is worth the 7 day wait. Office Depot
cannot explain the price difference. I will start the online
tutorials using the trial version. Glad to know you are here if we
have other questions. You have been extremely helpful.
Shep

Thanks Shep. Be careful that the Pro version is not an upgrade that
would require you to have an earlier version of Project Professional
as the pricing sounds *very* odd. Usually the Pro version is
several hundreds of dollars more expensive than the Standard
version.

Do drop by again should you have any questions as you get going with
Project.

Julie

Julie
 

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