Change default page order when printing booklet

[Zixiong WANG]

Hi,

When you print a booklet, Publisher puts automatically pages in the
appropriate order (ex: for a 8 pages booklet, the order is (8, 1), (2, 7),
(6, 3), (4, 5), and each couple of pages are on a same sheet).

But we want to create the same booklet in PDF format, so we need a
sequential order : (1), (2, 3), (4, 5), (6, 7), (8), just like what's show
by Publisher when in edition mode.

We create PDF by printing on a PDF virtual printer (pdf995).

But we can't tell Publisher to output in our needed order.

Do you have any idea ?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Mary Sauer]

Yes, get the real McCoy... i.e. Adobe Acrobat

 

[°°°MS°Publisher°°°]

Mary having the full fair dinkum version of Adobe Acrobat is not going to
help.

You will have to change the Page Setup from Booklet to Normal.

 

[Zixiong WANG]

So it's a problem of printer, not that of Publisher ?

The printer prints what's sent by Publisher, if Publisher sends pages 8 and
1 for a sheet, how can the printer prints other way ? even it's the "real
McCoy" ?

By the way, we have also PDFwriter from Adobe, that don't solves the
problem.

Thanks.

 

[Mike Koewler]

Mary,

I hate to bring this up, but PP will let you create a pdf for printing
or viewing, IOW, 1-8, 7-2, etc., or 1, 2, 3, etc. Plus, it's a lot
cheaper than Acrobat.

Mike

 

[°°°MS°Publisher°°°]

Zixiong the real McCoy died a long time ago.

Having the full version of Adobe does not fix this issue.

 

[°°°MS°Publisher°°°]

Mike PagePlus has the option to print as straight pages or as Booklet form.
The other thing that PagePlus beats everything hands down, is in converting
from paper to PDF and then to web. PagePlus retains all the columns and
formatting perfectly.
http://www.serif.com/pageplus/pageplus9/index.asp

 

[°°°MS°Publisher°°°]

Change your Page Setup to Normal.

 

[Mary Sauer]

I have Acrobat, when I need a booklet in a PDF, I simply choose eBook. it prints
exactly the way Publisher has it laid out. I have the advantage of a duplexer,
however you do have the option of odd-even printing. There are so many options in
Acrobat...

 

[Zixiong WANG]

How PDF-XCahnge can do better than other PDF printer when Publisher sent
(8,1), (2,7),... and you must print (1), (2,3) ... ?

 

[Zixiong WANG]

But in my case, in the generated PDF file, the pages are already in 8-1, 2-7
order (2 pages on one sheet). I suppose that your method works if there is
only one page / sheet. Am I right ?

 

[Zixiong WANG]

I didn't know PagePlus. It replaces Publisher or works together with
Publisher (as a virtual printer for exemple) ?

 

[Mike Koewler]

It's a completely different DTP program, though it has some similarities
to Pub.

Mike

 

[°°°MS°Publisher°°°]

If you change the option back to NORMAL it will put everything in the
correct page order.

 

[Zixiong WANG]

Ok, so I have to choose Normal instead of booklet format.

Yes, in normal format, I can choose what ever page order, but I get another
problem : I can't print two A5 pages on one A4 sheet without page reduction.

When my document is of A4 format, I need only choose "2 pages on one sheet"
in one of Acrobote Distiller's option, then all my A4 pages are reduced by
50% and 2 pages are put on one A4 sheet.

With my A5 page format, I'v tried all combinaisons of page and paper
orientation, when I successfully put 2 A5 pages on one A4 sheet, they got
reduced.

So my problem is :
When using booklet format (A5 when closed, A4 when open), I get the good
page size (A5), 2 A5 pages on one A4 sheet, but not the good page order.
When using normal format (A5 pages), I get good page order, but I can't get
the good page size when I print two A5 pages on one A4 sheet.

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

[Ed Bennett]

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With my A5 page format, I'v tried all combinaisons of page and paper
orientation, when I successfully put 2 A5 pages on one A4 sheet, they
got reduced.

You need to select A5 page size under File > Page Setup > Printer and Paper.
If Distiller can't do it properly then, then you might need to use something
like FinePrint 2000 from www.fineprint.com

 

[Zixiong WANG]

I'v set 148x210 (A5) in page size, A4 in paper size of printer. Tried
portait or landscape, one or 2 page per sheet, etc.

When you want to print 2 pages on one sheet, you can :
- tell Publisher to arrange pages or
- tell printer to arrange pages

The problem is that Publisher has bundled settings : with booklet, 2 pages
are on one sheet, but page order is fixed ; with normal format, order is
flexible, but you can only arrange to print 2 copies of the SAME page on one
sheet, but not consequentive pages.

When you tell PDF virtual printer to put 2 pages on one sheet, it operates a
50% reduction on your pages.

Can you tell FinePrint to assemble 2 pages output by Publisher on one final
sheet ?

Thanks,

 

[Ed Bennett]

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I'v set 148x210 (A5) in page size, A4 in paper size of printer. Tried
portait or landscape, one or 2 page per sheet, etc.

I know you have.
Which is why I said to set **A5** page size in File > Page Setup > Printer
and Paper.

If you do that, then Acrobat or FinePrint or anything apart from Publisher
will assemble them two-to-a-page.
Distiller was reducing them because each A4 page had an A5 page slap bang in
the middle. So when it stuck two-to-a-page, then it reduced each A4 down to
an A5, leaving the gaps and the reductions.
If you use the A5 page sie in your printer settings, then it will come out
in a format assemblable by other applications.

 

[Zixiong WANG]

Thanks for your responses.

When I set A5 paper size, Publisher prints all pages out (one A5 page per A5
sheet) senquentially to PDF file. But I can't figure out how Acrobat or
FinePrint knows how to assemble them two-to-a-page ? who instructs them to
do that ?

In fact, with these setting, I get simply A5 format pages in Acrobat. I can
of cause show pages in side-by-side mode in Acrobat, which is very similar
to Publisher's edition view of booklet. But it's just a view mode, each page
is still on a separated sheet. If the person who gets my PDF trys to view it
in normal mode, he'll not get the views I need, pictures spanning two pages
will be cut, he'll see only a half of the picture on each page.

Except you can merge two A5 pages in one A4 inside Acrobat or FinePrint ? I
don't know if it's possible.

Thanks.

 

[Ed Bennett]

A small child turns to Ed, and exclaims: "Look! Look! A post from

When I set A5 paper size, Publisher prints all pages out (one A5 page
per A5 sheet) senquentially to PDF file. But I can't figure out how
Acrobat or FinePrint knows how to assemble them two-to-a-page ? who
instructs them to do that ?

You would use the same setting as you were using before to get two pages to
a sheet in Distiller, or in FinePrint.