I nead some help

B

bali

I have a fried who make fine backgrounds but they are in Frontpage and shall
will help me with some new to my webpage. But so come my problem. I only use
Publisher 2007. Can I use them in open them in publisher? And if I can not
that what shall I do? Are Publisher compadible with Frontpage?
Hope to got some help from anyone.
 
M

Mary Sauer

What format are the backgrounds? Are they pictures? If they are pictures you can
insert them into Publisher.
Format, background, picture tab.
 
J

JoAnn Paules

Please be aware that Publisher is not always the best tool for websites.
From http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA100947601033.aspx:


What is the best tool?
As you plan your site and the information that it will provide, consider
which authoring tool is right for your needs. Office Publisher 2007 is an
excellent authoring tool to use when you want to quickly create, publish,
and manage simple, static Web sites that match your business brand and that
require revisions of only text and graphics. Office Publisher 2007 is not
the appropriate tool in the following cases:
If your Web site needs interactivity or database-driven content, so that
visitors can respond in a Web log (blog) or purchase items in a shopping
cart
If your Web site requires data validation, such as for verifying credit card
numbers
If you expect to later alter the raw HTML code in an HTML editor after you
create your Web site in Office Publisher 2007, which combines HTML, XML, and
VML code to produce Web sites
recommended

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375
 
M

Mary Sauer

If Publisher is all you have

Søkte etter web i Publisher 2007
http://office.microsoft.com/nb-no/publisher/results.aspx?qu=web&av=ZPB120

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/


JoAnn Paules said:
Please be aware that Publisher is not always the best tool for websites.
From http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA100947601033.aspx:


What is the best tool?
As you plan your site and the information that it will provide, consider which
authoring tool is right for your needs. Office Publisher 2007 is an excellent
authoring tool to use when you want to quickly create, publish, and manage
simple, static Web sites that match your business brand and that require
revisions of only text and graphics. Office Publisher 2007 is not the
appropriate tool in the following cases:
If your Web site needs interactivity or database-driven content, so that
visitors can respond in a Web log (blog) or purchase items in a shopping cart
If your Web site requires data validation, such as for verifying credit card
numbers
If you expect to later alter the raw HTML code in an HTML editor after you
create your Web site in Office Publisher 2007, which combines HTML, XML, and
VML code to produce Web sites
recommended

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


bali said:
I have a fried who make fine backgrounds but they are in Frontpage and shall
will help me with some new to my webpage. But so come my problem. I only use
Publisher 2007. Can I use them in open them in publisher? And if I can not
that what shall I do? Are Publisher compadible with Frontpage?
Hope to got some help from anyone.
 
B

bali

Thank you so much.
The format of the backgrounds are in HTML. And I think most of it are
pictures, but I am not sure.
bali

Mary Sauer skrev:
 
B

bali

Thank you so much.
I have other programs too, but I like Publisher 2007 best of all of them.
And that is because I am not any proff but only a amateur.
I have not any blog or any orther thing on my web page. Because my page are
about my cats and my breeding of cats.
I have also made many other page to cat peopel.
bali

JoAnn Paules skrev:
Please be aware that Publisher is not always the best tool for websites.
From http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA100947601033.aspx:


What is the best tool?
As you plan your site and the information that it will provide, consider
which authoring tool is right for your needs. Office Publisher 2007 is an
excellent authoring tool to use when you want to quickly create, publish,
and manage simple, static Web sites that match your business brand and that
require revisions of only text and graphics. Office Publisher 2007 is not
the appropriate tool in the following cases:
If your Web site needs interactivity or database-driven content, so that
visitors can respond in a Web log (blog) or purchase items in a shopping
cart
If your Web site requires data validation, such as for verifying credit card
numbers
If you expect to later alter the raw HTML code in an HTML editor after you
create your Web site in Office Publisher 2007, which combines HTML, XML, and
VML code to produce Web sites
recommended

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


bali said:
I have a fried who make fine backgrounds but they are in Frontpage and
shall
will help me with some new to my webpage. But so come my problem. I only
use
Publisher 2007. Can I use them in open them in publisher? And if I can not
that what shall I do? Are Publisher compadible with Frontpage?
Hope to got some help from anyone.
 
B

bali

I have almost all the other programs too but it is Pulisher I like best.
bali

Mary Sauer skrev:
If Publisher is all you have

Søkte etter web i Publisher 2007
http://office.microsoft.com/nb-no/publisher/results.aspx?qu=web&av=ZPB120

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

JoAnn Paules said:
Please be aware that Publisher is not always the best tool for websites.
From http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA100947601033.aspx:


What is the best tool?
As you plan your site and the information that it will provide, consider which
authoring tool is right for your needs. Office Publisher 2007 is an excellent
authoring tool to use when you want to quickly create, publish, and manage
simple, static Web sites that match your business brand and that require
revisions of only text and graphics. Office Publisher 2007 is not the
appropriate tool in the following cases:
If your Web site needs interactivity or database-driven content, so that
visitors can respond in a Web log (blog) or purchase items in a shopping cart
If your Web site requires data validation, such as for verifying credit card
numbers
If you expect to later alter the raw HTML code in an HTML editor after you
create your Web site in Office Publisher 2007, which combines HTML, XML, and
VML code to produce Web sites
recommended

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


bali said:
I have a fried who make fine backgrounds but they are in Frontpage and shall
will help me with some new to my webpage. But so come my problem. I only use
Publisher 2007. Can I use them in open them in publisher? And if I can not
that what shall I do? Are Publisher compadible with Frontpage?
Hope to got some help from anyone.
 
J

JoAnn Paules

I like Publisher too but there are valid reasons not to use it for websites.

--

JoAnn Paules
Microsoft MVP - Publisher

How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375




bali said:
Thank you so much.
I have other programs too, but I like Publisher 2007 best of all of them.
And that is because I am not any proff but only a amateur.
I have not any blog or any orther thing on my web page. Because my page
are
about my cats and my breeding of cats.
I have also made many other page to cat peopel.
bali

JoAnn Paules skrev:
Please be aware that Publisher is not always the best tool for websites.
From http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA100947601033.aspx:


What is the best tool?
As you plan your site and the information that it will provide, consider
which authoring tool is right for your needs. Office Publisher 2007 is an
excellent authoring tool to use when you want to quickly create, publish,
and manage simple, static Web sites that match your business brand and
that
require revisions of only text and graphics. Office Publisher 2007 is not
the appropriate tool in the following cases:
If your Web site needs interactivity or database-driven content, so that
visitors can respond in a Web log (blog) or purchase items in a shopping
cart
If your Web site requires data validation, such as for verifying credit
card
numbers
If you expect to later alter the raw HTML code in an HTML editor after
you
create your Web site in Office Publisher 2007, which combines HTML, XML,
and
VML code to produce Web sites
recommended

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


bali said:
I have a fried who make fine backgrounds but they are in Frontpage and
shall
will help me with some new to my webpage. But so come my problem. I
only
use
Publisher 2007. Can I use them in open them in publisher? And if I can
not
that what shall I do? Are Publisher compadible with Frontpage?
Hope to got some help from anyone.
 
E

Ed Bennett

bali said:
I have almost all the other programs too but it is Pulisher I like best.

I love Publisher but wouldn't use it for shoveling manure or for
screwing in a light bulb. It is just as suitable for building a website.
The program you "love" isn't always the best tool for the job. You'd
almost certainly be much better off using FrontPage for web-building
tasks than using Publisher.
 
D

DavidF

The instructions that Mary gave you will work with only one picture, not an
entire "background" as you are using the word.

FrontPage creates different HTML code than Publisher HTML code. If you want
to use the FrontPage "background" then you should probably use FrontPage to
build your site, if you have the program.

However, Publisher 2003 will open *.*htm and *.*html files. If your friend
will give you copies of their html files you can try to open them in
Publisher, and then do a Save As a Publisher file ( *.*pub). However, you
will probably not be happy with the results, and should probably just start
over if you really want to use Publisher. You could copy and paste the
design elements, pictures etc from your friend's "background" into your
Publisher page.

If you have further questions about using Publisher to build your website,
please post to the webdesign newsgroup: microsoft.public.publisher.webdesign
and we will try to help you there.

DavidF
 
J

JoAnn Paules

I only found that site last Sunday when I was doing some research. I also
found that Firefox and Opera do NOT read a Publisher site the same way IE
does. Cross-browsing compatibility is important to me so Publisher, although
it can be quite simple to use, is not my idea of a good web building tool.

It all boils down to *why* you are creating that site.

--

JoAnn Paules
Microsoft MVP - Publisher

How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375




DavidF said:
Ed,

I don't disagree that FrontPage is a better tool for building a website.
In fact if you read through the webdesign group you will see I am quick to
suggest people switch to different software when their goals for their
site are beyond the scope of Publisher. However, just because you don't
like using Publisher to build websites, does not mean it is not suitable
for others to build websites with. Not everyone needs to invest the time
in learning and/or the money in buying other software to create a simple
static website.

Many people have easily, successfully and happily built nice looking and
fully functional sites with Publisher with good cross browser support.
JoAnn doesn't like using Publisher for building websites either, but at
least she posted a quote from Microsoft which described where Publisher is
an appropriate choice and where it isn't. That was constructive. Comparing
it to trying to shovel manure with Publisher is neither constructive or
even rational. If you don't want to support the use, then fine, but please
don't condemn and flame others for their choices and try to maintain some
objectivity. Ed, you are a genius and know more about computers than I
will ever know, but I think you need to chill out a little!

DavidF
 
D

DavidF

Ed,

I don't disagree that FrontPage is a better tool for building a website. In
fact if you read through the webdesign group you will see I am quick to
suggest people switch to different software when their goals for their site
are beyond the scope of Publisher. However, just because you don't like
using Publisher to build websites, does not mean it is not suitable for
others to build websites with. Not everyone needs to invest the time in
learning and/or the money in buying other software to create a simple static
website.

Many people have easily, successfully and happily built nice looking and
fully functional sites with Publisher with good cross browser support. JoAnn
doesn't like using Publisher for building websites either, but at least she
posted a quote from Microsoft which described where Publisher is an
appropriate choice and where it isn't. That was constructive. Comparing it
to trying to shovel manure with Publisher is neither constructive or even
rational. If you don't want to support the use, then fine, but please don't
condemn and flame others for their choices and try to maintain some
objectivity. Ed, you are a genius and know more about computers than I will
ever know, but I think you need to chill out a little!

DavidF
 
D

DavidF

JoAnn,

Cross browser compatibility is very important. However it is a common
misunderstanding to say that Publisher sites are not cross browser
compatible. Even David Bartosik has said as much. And while Publisher built
sites are designed to work best in IE, you can get almost all Publisher
built sites to work in FireFox...or at least I haven't come across one in a
year or so that I couldn't, with some tweaking. And if it is compatible with
FireFox and IE then it will usually work in Mozilla, Netscape, AOL and in
the lesser used browsers too. Between IE and FF you have covered about
95+/-% of the people that will view your site, and if you include the other
Mozilla based browsers, then the number approaches 98%. I haven't tested in
Opera, but they represent less than 2%. To me, that is pretty good cross
browser support. Reference:
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

Don't forget that even FrontPage has/had problems with cross browser
compatibility and lots of criticism for its proprietary code that is/was
designed to work best in IE, over the years. It is not 100% cross browser
compatible either. That is one of the big reasons why it has been replaced
by Expression Web which is more standards compliant. Reference: Are You
Cross Browser Compatible?:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/articles/80825.aspx

I also agree that both "why"...and "what" are the goals for the site is
important. If you want dynamic functionality, are planning a large site or
want a 100% W3C's guidelines compliant site, then Publisher is not the best
choice. And even though I have seen many Publisher sites with PayPal and
other dynamic functionality, and some sites in excess of 100 pages, that
increased functionality and capacity is beyond the scope of the intended use
of Publisher web pages. But lack of cross browser support is not a
justifiable reason for not using Publisher, because it isn't true for the
most part.

Please post other reasons why one should never use Publisher, and I will be
happy to discuss it. I really would hope that you and Ed would be open to a
rational discussion, and that perhaps I can convince you that there are
times and situations where using Publisher for building a web site is an
acceptable choice. I just hate to see two Publisher MVPs so adamantly and
vocally opposed, especially if those attitudes are based on misconceptions
such as the lack of cross browser compatibility. I thought your post of the
MSFT quote was very open minded and constructive, and I want to encourage
that helpful attitude. But please no more analogies about shoveling manure
;-)

DavidF

JoAnn Paules said:
I only found that site last Sunday when I was doing some research. I also
found that Firefox and Opera do NOT read a Publisher site the same way IE
does. Cross-browsing compatibility is important to me so Publisher,
although it can be quite simple to use, is not my idea of a good web
building tool.

It all boils down to *why* you are creating that site.

--

JoAnn Paules
Microsoft MVP - Publisher

How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
 
U

Uncle Grumpy

DavidF said:
Cross browser compatibility is very important. However it is a common
misunderstanding to say that Publisher sites are not cross browser
compatible.

Great.

Take it to the publisher webdesign group. It really doesn't belong
here
 
M

Mike Koewler

To sound like the Geiko caveman - huh? So what do you think is the best
tool?

Someone was smoking too many chipotles when they wrote what you quoted.

Mike
 
M

Mike Koewler

David,

I concur, and I'm not a Pub user. But I've played with it enough to know
that if one takes a little time, follows instructions and basically
forgets Pub is primarily a print program, one can create a site that is
100 percent cross-browser compatible.

Furthermore, I would be willing to bet, if the stakes are high enough to
warrant my time, I can create a site in Pub that uses e-commerce and
data-based driven activity. As for verifying credit cards and such, no
html design program does that, at least none that I am aware of. It's a
different sub-routine, not html code that works.

Personally, if I was a Pub user and wanted to create a website for my
business and didn't have hundreds of dollars and dozens of hours to
waste, I would use it.

Mike
 
M

Mike Koewler

JoAnn,

Please explain, using your experiences.

The bottom line here is you are just plain wrong - period. Especially
given what the OP said she wants to create.

Mike
 
B

bali

Thank you for all the aswered you have given me. Some I understand and some
not byt so is life.
I use only publisher 2007 the newest one. I begine to use pub in 1990 and
that was pub 2000 and I like it very much.
Yes my friend will send me the page that she shall make for me in a zip
file.
I have also spoken to the Norwegian Microsoft and they tell me that I can
use pub to open frontpage file, becuse pub are compatible to fronpage. I hope
that is true?
Ok I shall post this also at webdesign newsgroup. Thank you DavidF

--
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(=''.''=)
(") (")
bali
http://www.ramithi.no/


DavidF skrev:
 

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