Navigation links not working

[deech]

I’m building a site. When I do the Web Page Preview, it allows me to “Edit
with MS Office Word†in the “File†menu. This is great as it allows me do
“Borders and Shading†to text as I am wishing, and it also retains the
navigation bar.

I am able to save these changes as an html file on my computer, however
there is no change to the original Publisher file. I think that I have worked
out that I need to create a link from my publisher file to this new html file
(which I have saved in my documents), and this link works great to my MS Word
altered html page.

The problem is that the navigation bar on the MS Word html page does not
link back to the original publisher file. I have tried publishing my website
to my hard drive, which has transformed the pages into html format and given
them index files to follow. I then went back to my MS Word html document, and
made each navigation bar button link to these new index files, however this
has made no difference when actually looking at the website.

I manually created links in the navigation bar of the MS Word html document
to each index file which looked like this:
.../../../../My%20Documents/testwebpage/index_files/Page353.htm

However when actually looking at the website and hitting the same navigation
bar it directs me to this (and says the page cannot be displayed):
C:\My Documents\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.MSO\PubWebPagePreview\pub3916.188\index_files\Page353.htm

What am I doing wrong? I am just testing the links before it goes to the
web, however I realize that the links will also need to be changed to the
correct web addresses in the future

Thanks Deech

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

You're using two programs that are not really designed to create html and
mixing them together. You'll probably survive using Publisher alone, but mix
Word created html in there and you're bound to have problems.


| I'm building a site. When I do the Web Page Preview, it allows me to "Edit
| with MS Office Word" in the "File" menu. This is great as it allows me do
| "Borders and Shading" to text as I am wishing, and it also retains the
| navigation bar.
|
| I am able to save these changes as an html file on my computer, however
| there is no change to the original Publisher file. I think that I have
worked
| out that I need to create a link from my publisher file to this new html
file
| (which I have saved in my documents), and this link works great to my MS
Word
| altered html page.
|
| The problem is that the navigation bar on the MS Word html page does not
| link back to the original publisher file. I have tried publishing my
website
| to my hard drive, which has transformed the pages into html format and
given
| them index files to follow. I then went back to my MS Word html document,
and
| made each navigation bar button link to these new index files, however
this
| has made no difference when actually looking at the website.
|
| I manually created links in the navigation bar of the MS Word html
document
| to each index file which looked like this:
| ../../../../My%20Documents/testwebpage/index_files/Page353.htm
|
| However when actually looking at the website and hitting the same
navigation
| bar it directs me to this (and says the page cannot be displayed):
| C:\My Documents\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
| Files\Content.MSO\PubWebPagePreview\pub3916.188\index_files\Page353.htm
|
| What am I doing wrong? I am just testing the links before it goes to the
| web, however I realize that the links will also need to be changed to the
| correct web addresses in the future
|
| Thanks Deech
|

 

[DavidF]

Thanks for the chuckle. Knowing how your feel about using even Publisher to
produce a website, I thought your post very tactful, and well said.

DavidF

 

[DavidF]

Use Word to edit the text boxes in your Publisher document, not Web Page
Preview. Select a text box > Edit > Edit Story in Microsoft Word . Make your
changes in Word then File > Update, and your Publisher document will be
updated and you can close Word. Produce all your HTML files from Publisher.
As Rob said, don't try to mix them.

DavidF

 

[deech]

Thanks for the reply. I take from your answer that I am going to have
problems, which I am, but can I overcome them?

To me, it sounds like it should be simple to have a link from one html page
to another regardless of what they are created in. I sort of hoped that there
might be something obvious that I haven't done yet.

If/when the website goes on the web, and has a proper URL address for each
page, will linking my Word based html page, to the URLs make it work this
time.

I guess what I am trying to do is firstly linking from my website to an
external site (created via Publisher and Edit with MS Word), and then trying
to link back to the website thru the navigation bar that followed through to
the external site.

 

[deech]

OK, I've just read this answer also. I am now getting the meassage that I
should not mix Word html files. However, searching thru these questions a few
days ago, I read answers about linking to external sites (eg Word) being
possible as long as the Word doc is also uploaded to the server.

Is this a no no, or is this OK as long as the Word file is not saved as a
Webpage format.....e.g can I upload a normal Word doc?, can I link to this
normal doc?, and is this OK?....will links created on this Word doc still
work?

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

Welp...I do kinda sorta think Pub has a place, problem is that the user
wouldn't know when to switch to something more robusto.


| Thanks for the chuckle. Knowing how your feel about using even Publisher
to
| produce a website, I thought your post very tactful, and well said.
|
| DavidF
|
| | > You're using two programs that are not really designed to create html
and
| > mixing them together. You'll probably survive using Publisher alone, but
| > mix
| > Word created html in there and you're bound to have problems.
| >
| >
| > | > | I'm building a site. When I do the Web Page Preview, it allows me to
| > "Edit
| > | with MS Office Word" in the "File" menu. This is great as it allows me
| > do
| > | "Borders and Shading" to text as I am wishing, and it also retains the
| > | navigation bar.
| > |
| > | I am able to save these changes as an html file on my computer,
however
| > | there is no change to the original Publisher file. I think that I have
| > worked
| > | out that I need to create a link from my publisher file to this new
html
| > file
| > | (which I have saved in my documents), and this link works great to my
MS
| > Word
| > | altered html page.
| > |
| > | The problem is that the navigation bar on the MS Word html page does
not
| > | link back to the original publisher file. I have tried publishing my
| > website
| > | to my hard drive, which has transformed the pages into html format and
| > given
| > | them index files to follow. I then went back to my MS Word html
| > document,
| > and
| > | made each navigation bar button link to these new index files, however
| > this
| > | has made no difference when actually looking at the website.
| > |
| > | I manually created links in the navigation bar of the MS Word html
| > document
| > | to each index file which looked like this:
| > | ../../../../My%20Documents/testwebpage/index_files/Page353.htm
| > |
| > | However when actually looking at the website and hitting the same
| > navigation
| > | bar it directs me to this (and says the page cannot be displayed):
| > | C:\My Documents\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
| > |
Files\Content.MSO\PubWebPagePreview\pub3916.188\index_files\Page353.htm
| > |
| > | What am I doing wrong? I am just testing the links before it goes to
the
| > | web, however I realize that the links will also need to be changed to
| > the
| > | correct web addresses in the future
| > |
| > | Thanks Deech
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

Don't mix the two...stick with Pub if you're gonna use Pub.



| Thanks for the reply. I take from your answer that I am going to have
| problems, which I am, but can I overcome them?
|
| To me, it sounds like it should be simple to have a link from one html
page
| to another regardless of what they are created in. I sort of hoped that
there
| might be something obvious that I haven't done yet.
|
| If/when the website goes on the web, and has a proper URL address for each
| page, will linking my Word based html page, to the URLs make it work this
| time.
|
| I guess what I am trying to do is firstly linking from my website to an
| external site (created via Publisher and Edit with MS Word), and then
trying
| to link back to the website thru the navigation bar that followed through
to
| the external site.
|
|
|
|
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
|
| > You're using two programs that are not really designed to create html
and
| > mixing them together. You'll probably survive using Publisher alone, but
mix
| > Word created html in there and you're bound to have problems.
| >
| >
| > | > | I'm building a site. When I do the Web Page Preview, it allows me to
"Edit
| > | with MS Office Word" in the "File" menu. This is great as it allows me
do
| > | "Borders and Shading" to text as I am wishing, and it also retains the
| > | navigation bar.
| > |
| > | I am able to save these changes as an html file on my computer,
however
| > | there is no change to the original Publisher file. I think that I have
| > worked
| > | out that I need to create a link from my publisher file to this new
html
| > file
| > | (which I have saved in my documents), and this link works great to my
MS
| > Word
| > | altered html page.
| > |
| > | The problem is that the navigation bar on the MS Word html page does
not
| > | link back to the original publisher file. I have tried publishing my
| > website
| > | to my hard drive, which has transformed the pages into html format and
| > given
| > | them index files to follow. I then went back to my MS Word html
document,
| > and
| > | made each navigation bar button link to these new index files, however
| > this
| > | has made no difference when actually looking at the website.
| > |
| > | I manually created links in the navigation bar of the MS Word html
| > document
| > | to each index file which looked like this:
| > | ../../../../My%20Documents/testwebpage/index_files/Page353.htm
| > |
| > | However when actually looking at the website and hitting the same
| > navigation
| > | bar it directs me to this (and says the page cannot be displayed):
| > | C:\My Documents\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
| > |
Files\Content.MSO\PubWebPagePreview\pub3916.188\index_files\Page353.htm
| > |
| > | What am I doing wrong? I am just testing the links before it goes to
the
| > | web, however I realize that the links will also need to be changed to
the
| > | correct web addresses in the future
| > |
| > | Thanks Deech
| > |
| >
| >
| >

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

You can link to a regular Word .doc as long as you also upload it to your
website. It will open in Word in the browser if the viewer has Word
installed on their machine (IIRC)...and hyperlinks within the Word doc
"should" work as long as they are absolute url's.



| OK, I've just read this answer also. I am now getting the meassage that I
| should not mix Word html files. However, searching thru these questions a
few
| days ago, I read answers about linking to external sites (eg Word) being
| possible as long as the Word doc is also uploaded to the server.
|
| Is this a no no, or is this OK as long as the Word file is not saved as a
| Webpage format.....e.g can I upload a normal Word doc?, can I link to this
| normal doc?, and is this OK?....will links created on this Word doc still
| work?
|
|
|
|
| "DavidF" wrote:
|
| > Use Word to edit the text boxes in your Publisher document, not Web Page
| > Preview. Select a text box > Edit > Edit Story in Microsoft Word . Make
your
| > changes in Word then File > Update, and your Publisher document will be
| > updated and you can close Word. Produce all your HTML files from
Publisher.
| > As Rob said, don't try to mix them.
| >
| > DavidF
| >
| > | > > I'm building a site. When I do the Web Page Preview, it allows me to
"Edit
| > > with MS Office Word" in the "File" menu. This is great as it allows me
do
| > > "Borders and Shading" to text as I am wishing, and it also retains the
| > > navigation bar.
| > >
| > > I am able to save these changes as an html file on my computer,
however
| > > there is no change to the original Publisher file. I think that I have
| > > worked
| > > out that I need to create a link from my publisher file to this new
html
| > > file
| > > (which I have saved in my documents), and this link works great to my
MS
| > > Word
| > > altered html page.
| > >
| > > The problem is that the navigation bar on the MS Word html page does
not
| > > link back to the original publisher file. I have tried publishing my
| > > website
| > > to my hard drive, which has transformed the pages into html format and
| > > given
| > > them index files to follow. I then went back to my MS Word html
document,
| > > and
| > > made each navigation bar button link to these new index files, however
| > > this
| > > has made no difference when actually looking at the website.
| > >
| > > I manually created links in the navigation bar of the MS Word html
| > > document
| > > to each index file which looked like this:
| > > ../../../../My%20Documents/testwebpage/index_files/Page353.htm
| > >
| > > However when actually looking at the website and hitting the same
| > > navigation
| > > bar it directs me to this (and says the page cannot be displayed):
| > > C:\My Documents\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
| > >
Files\Content.MSO\PubWebPagePreview\pub3916.188\index_files\Page353.htm
| > >
| > > What am I doing wrong? I am just testing the links before it goes to
the
| > > web, however I realize that the links will also need to be changed to
the
| > > correct web addresses in the future
| > >
| > > Thanks Deech
| > >
| >
| >
| >

 

[deech]

Thanks for that.......I think I know where this is probably heading. I don't
like the format of Word, to be linking directly to that.....so I'll probbly
try to convert my word.doc to a pdf, and link to that.

It wont be able to maintain the navigation bar, but it looks like that
cannot be achieved unless I continue 100% in publisher.

When converting a word.doc to a pdf, and still maintaining hyperlinks, do I
need Acrobat, or is there a free-version available that maintains the links

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

Acrobat can maintain the links, but it's $$. A lot of people herein
recommend primopdf (freebie). I have it too, but don't use it much, so I
dunno. Give primopdf a shot.


| Thanks for that.......I think I know where this is probably heading. I
don't
| like the format of Word, to be linking directly to that.....so I'll
probbly
| try to convert my word.doc to a pdf, and link to that.
|
| It wont be able to maintain the navigation bar, but it looks like that
| cannot be achieved unless I continue 100% in publisher.
|
| When converting a word.doc to a pdf, and still maintaining hyperlinks, do
I
| need Acrobat, or is there a free-version available that maintains the
links
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
|
| > You can link to a regular Word .doc as long as you also upload it to
your
| > website. It will open in Word in the browser if the viewer has Word
| > installed on their machine (IIRC)...and hyperlinks within the Word doc
| > "should" work as long as they are absolute url's.
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | OK, I've just read this answer also. I am now getting the meassage
that I
| > | should not mix Word html files. However, searching thru these
questions a
| > few
| > | days ago, I read answers about linking to external sites (eg Word)
being
| > | possible as long as the Word doc is also uploaded to the server.
| > |
| > | Is this a no no, or is this OK as long as the Word file is not saved
as a
| > | Webpage format.....e.g can I upload a normal Word doc?, can I link to
this
| > | normal doc?, and is this OK?....will links created on this Word doc
still
| > | work?
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | "DavidF" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Use Word to edit the text boxes in your Publisher document, not Web
Page
| > | > Preview. Select a text box > Edit > Edit Story in Microsoft Word .
Make
| > your
| > | > changes in Word then File > Update, and your Publisher document will
be
| > | > updated and you can close Word. Produce all your HTML files from
| > Publisher.
| > | > As Rob said, don't try to mix them.
| > | >
| > | > DavidF
| > | >
| > | > | > | > > I'm building a site. When I do the Web Page Preview, it allows me
to
| > "Edit
| > | > > with MS Office Word" in the "File" menu. This is great as it
allows me
| > do
| > | > > "Borders and Shading" to text as I am wishing, and it also retains
the
| > | > > navigation bar.
| > | > >
| > | > > I am able to save these changes as an html file on my computer,
| > however
| > | > > there is no change to the original Publisher file. I think that I
have
| > | > > worked
| > | > > out that I need to create a link from my publisher file to this
new
| > html
| > | > > file
| > | > > (which I have saved in my documents), and this link works great to
my
| > MS
| > | > > Word
| > | > > altered html page.
| > | > >
| > | > > The problem is that the navigation bar on the MS Word html page
does
| > not
| > | > > link back to the original publisher file. I have tried publishing
my
| > | > > website
| > | > > to my hard drive, which has transformed the pages into html format
and
| > | > > given
| > | > > them index files to follow. I then went back to my MS Word html
| > document,
| > | > > and
| > | > > made each navigation bar button link to these new index files,
however
| > | > > this
| > | > > has made no difference when actually looking at the website.
| > | > >
| > | > > I manually created links in the navigation bar of the MS Word html
| > | > > document
| > | > > to each index file which looked like this:
| > | > > ../../../../My%20Documents/testwebpage/index_files/Page353.htm
| > | > >
| > | > > However when actually looking at the website and hitting the same
| > | > > navigation
| > | > > bar it directs me to this (and says the page cannot be displayed):
| > | > > C:\My Documents\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
| > | > >
| > Files\Content.MSO\PubWebPagePreview\pub3916.188\index_files\Page353.htm
| > | > >
| > | > > What am I doing wrong? I am just testing the links before it goes
to
| > the
| > | > > web, however I realize that the links will also need to be changed
to
| > the
| > | > > correct web addresses in the future
| > | > >
| > | > > Thanks Deech
| > | > >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >

 

[DavidF]

You can produce web pages with both Word and Publisher, both of which have
limitations and are not really specifically designed for the task. However,
they both use different coding engines, and when you try to mix the code you
end up with a mess, as you discovered. One example, a Publisher navbar
produced by the navbar wizard writes relative links to the other pages in
the site. When you try to import that navbar into a Word web page, it isn't
going to work. This is just one reason why you are having problems.

Yes, you could produce a website with Publisher...and a website produced
with Word, and then link the two websites. However you would not want to mix
the html code and you could not include all the same design elements...the
pages would look entirely different. The approach is illustrated in the
article "Building a web site with multiple Publisher web publication files":
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/16/81264.aspx
However, just because you could do this doesn't mean you should, or explain
why you would even want to.

As I said in my previous reply, you can edit any text from a Publisher web
document in Word and save those changes in your Publisher document.
Furthermore, I have found that I can do most formatting and editing from
within Publisher and really find no need to go to Word. What I can't do is
usually not supported in HTML anyway...tis a print document feature and
won't work as a web page. You can also import a Word document into
Publisher, so once again, I see no reason to use Word HTML files. If you
have a text file in Word that you want in Publisher, either import it, or
copy and paste, but don't try to import anything other than text. No
navbars...no images.

As per trying to incorporate PDF files as part of your web site with
links....NO once again. Use PDF files as PDF files. Use Word files as Word
files. Don't use either of them for html files. Just bite the bullet and get
your content into Publisher, and if you have a special document that you
want to have available as a print document, then yes, you can create a PDF
file and link to it. You can create a Word file and link to it. But forget
this stuff about trying to integrate html files...you will never be happy
with the results.

DavidF