Page Banner Prfoblem.

[Chris Bee]

Am having a problem with Page Banners not displaying. They are included
within a shared top border, which does display ok, but the banner refuses to
appear. It is ok on the local development machine, appears to be ok on the
directories of our ISP - but don't appear on the published web site. Anyone
come across anything similar, or know a solution.


Chris

 

[Darryl Conliffe]

Have you put the page in the navigation window?
Is the page part of an existing Frontpage theme?
Are you using FP to publish to the site, and are you publishing changes only
or all of your local web?

- Darryl

 

[Me]

Darryl -

Thanks for your response. The website is question is our local village site
www.applebymagna.org.uk it has been in existence for over 5 years, but in
the last 6 months or so we have suffering several corruptions, this
virtually always affects the shared borders and page banners in particular.

The pages are included in the navigation structure, the pages are part of a
existing theme, we use FP to publish, and we have tried publishing using
changes and all pages. We have even had our ISP delete the whole web space,
delete and then reinstall the FP extensions, then we have reload the whole
site. And still we see no page banners. However, pager banners do display
correctly on the subweb "history" - they just don't appear on the main web.

The problems seems to start after we add a new page - the shared borders for
the whole web become corrupted. In total our web site is approx. 60 meg -
most of which are jpeg's and gif's. Are there some "unpublished" limits
within FP that we may be hitting, our ISP is hinting that our site is too
large for FP and we should be using something like DreamWeaver.

Thanks again -- Chris

 

[Darryl Conliffe]

I have seen this behavior.

I have no idea why it happens.

The pages defining the shared borders are contained in the _borders
directory. For some reason, under some circumstances, FP will reset the
top.htm, left.htm, bottom.htm, and right.htm files to their original content
....

Weirdly enough, I have seen this on my local machine before publishing the
site. Everything is fine, and then - bang - your shared borders are reset.

Note that if I understand you correctly, and
http://www.applebymagna.org.uk/appleby_history/ is a subweb, that subweb
will have its own _borders directory and set of files. That is why it can
display "correctly" when the main web does not.

I have take to creating the _border pages and then creating a copy of those
same pages. top.htm and "copy of top.htm" will now appear. I also found
that allowing the hidden directories to show "helps". The key is to delete
the _border files ON THE HOST. I think new default ones are created by FP.
Open and save each of your _border files on your client (to update the
timestamp), and then publish. You may get a good overwrite of the _border
files, and then your pages will display as you desire.

YMMV. The behavior is weird and "sticky". It is hard to get recontrol of
the _border files, perhaps because of all the entangling references in the
"derived" pages.

Any guru here have an opinion?

- Darryl

 

[Email Forwarder]

Darryl -

OK, very many thanks for your suggestions, I'll try file deletes and
recreates to see if I can get the borders to reset. However I do believe
that on occasions FP has "a mind of it's own" and is capable of defying any
common sense logic.


Chris


p.s. I think I may have finally managed to spell "problem" correctly on the
subject header - strange hat that did not get spell checked with the rest of
the email.

 

[Chris Bee]

FWIW -

We seem to have overcome our shared borders corruption problem by deleting
the subweb, making a dummy change to the root webs' home page shared
borders, then re-publishing with FP2003.

We had been using FP2000 and our problems seem to have been happenning since
our ISP moved our web to a Linux host. So, despite all the claims, maybe
not everything is quite as compatible as it should be.


Chris