problems with saved files

J

JL

I work with Office XP under Win XP Pro.

I have my files saved on a CD. I want to make some
changes in a file, I open it, make the changes and ->
save. It says it is a read only file, so I go to
properties, and uncheck read only. It doesn't accept it,
saying access is denied.

Can you tell me what I can do. My old computer crashed, I
transfered all in the new one, under the name "old
files". I cannot make any change in them either.

Thanks for your help
 
R

RWN

Don't Open/Save directly to any removable media.
Copy to your HD and open it from there and v.v. (Save to HD and copy it to the media).
 
G

Guest

I did it, but it says my CD is full (in properties)
although I have only 3 Word documents on it. Can you tell
me what happens?

Thanks a lot
 
R

RWN

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Regards;
Rob
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R

RWN

Sorry, I was too quick, hence the blank post.

If by "I did it" you mean you saved directly to the CD then, chances are, you've corrupted
the CD.
I don't profess to be the expert-i.e. know all the nasty details-but I do know that you
can kill the file this way (been there, done that!)
Word uses whatever directory you are pointing at as a working directory and tries to put
out it's temp files to that directory.
I know that with floppies this can exceed the floppy's capacity, but with a CD there has
to be more to it than size.

The accepted rule is what I stated in my original post.
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

Files on a CD are always read-only. Even if you have software that would
allow Word to write directly to the CD (which it would have to do in order
to create the temp files it needs in the document folder when you are
editing the file), it would be a seriously bad idea to use it, as you would
fill the CD with unneeded temp files and ultimately corrupt your document.
You will need to copy the file to the HD, remove the Read Only property,
edit it, save it back to the HD, and then copy it to the CD (under another
name) using your CD-burning software.
 
J

JL

I was too quick too, and forgot the senders name!

When I say I did it, I mean I did what you asked me to do
in your previous post : "Copy to your HD and open it from
there and v.v. (Save to HD and copy it to the media)." It
is where it says that the CD is full!!! with 3 Word
doc... which is far from normal.
-----Original Message-----
Sorry, I was too quick, hence the blank post.

If by "I did it" you mean you saved directly to the CD
then, chances are, you've corrupted
the CD.
I don't profess to be the expert-i.e. know all the nasty details-but I do know that you
can kill the file this way (been there, done that!)
Word uses whatever directory you are pointing at as a
working directory and tries to put
out it's temp files to that directory.
I know that with floppies this can exceed the floppy's
capacity, but with a CD there has
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

Have you looked at the CD in Windows Explorer to see what the content is? If
you've been managing to write directly to the CD and have saved frequently,
it is not impossible that the CD is full. Unlikely, I'll agree. Possible the
FAT has been somehow corrupted, though.
 
G

Graham Mayor

There are two issues here
1. The read only nature of the CD files, which Suzanne has covered and
2. The indication that the disc is *full*.

With respect to the latter, whether or not a disc is reported as full is
determined by the software used to access the disc and whether that disc is
closed. If the disc is closed, even if there is only one small file on it,
it will no longer be writeable and will be reported as 'full'.

The disc writing tools of Windows XP are rudimentary, and 'big floppy' type
software such as InCD, DirectCD etc is flaky and unreliable. The way to
ensure that you can copy data to and from your hard drive reliably, is to
use the ISO multisession mode of the CD mastering software supplied with
your writer. This will allow you to copy files on CDR (or RW) discs until
they are full. The RW disc may then be erased if required, but given that
CDR discs cost pennies, are faster to write, and are more reliable; it is
simply not worth using RW discs.

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