Resource reporting - name instead of hours/units

C

Claire

OK. I already feel like this is a crazy request but thought I should check it
out before I give up. My boss has a report that she creates manually and
she's told me that if I can't make it look exactly the same in Project then
she's not going to use it. What she wants is very much like the Resource
Usage list in our resource pool file sorted by project (already found answer
on how to do that in this forum, thanks!) and then assignment and resource
but she wants the resource name displaying in the weekly calendar block
opposed to the hours (like 8H). The report she does now is in Excel and what
she does is manually put their name in the first block of the week (Monday)
and then draw an arrow through the days they're assigned.

I was thinking maybe there's some option to display the resource pool usage
list but with the Gantt chart calendar/bar indicator that also displays the
name. Or do I change the grouping/sort in the Gantt chart? I'm pretty new to
Project and still learning my way around. Have I missed this option somewhere?

Anyone have any suggestions for this type of display within Project? If not,
at least I can export the data to Excel and then draw the arrows (and
eliminate the manual entry of all the project names and who's assigned part -
yes, that's how she does it!)

Thanks!
 
J

John

Claire said:
OK. I already feel like this is a crazy request but thought I should check it
out before I give up. My boss has a report that she creates manually and
she's told me that if I can't make it look exactly the same in Project then
she's not going to use it. What she wants is very much like the Resource
Usage list in our resource pool file sorted by project (already found answer
on how to do that in this forum, thanks!) and then assignment and resource
but she wants the resource name displaying in the weekly calendar block
opposed to the hours (like 8H). The report she does now is in Excel and what
she does is manually put their name in the first block of the week (Monday)
and then draw an arrow through the days they're assigned.

I was thinking maybe there's some option to display the resource pool usage
list but with the Gantt chart calendar/bar indicator that also displays the
name. Or do I change the grouping/sort in the Gantt chart? I'm pretty new to
Project and still learning my way around. Have I missed this option somewhere?

Anyone have any suggestions for this type of display within Project? If not,
at least I can export the data to Excel and then draw the arrows (and
eliminate the manual entry of all the project names and who's assigned part -
yes, that's how she does it!)

Thanks!

Claire,
It sounds like your boss has guaranteed that you strike out on your
first "at bat". The only way it will look "exactly" like what she has is
to export the data to Excel and replicate her format. You might just
mention to her that a Project MVP believes her approach is pretty
inflexible and very inefficient, especially if she is formatting it
manually. Nonetheless, she is your boss.

It isn't real clear whether the format looks like the Calendar view, a
Gantt type view, or perhaps a spreadsheet type view like the Resource
Usage view. You do mention Resource Usage but then you talk about
"calendar block" and "an arrow through the days". Several different
visions pop into my mind so I'm not quite sure what approach to suggest.
I'm sure we can come up with something in Project that will come pretty
close to what she has, but the more important question is, what does she
NEED, with the idea that if it's inefficient and cumbersome to get what
you want, what's the next best thing that would be acceptable. If in the
end, she sticks with her inflexible requirement, you can produce exactly
what she has but automated with VBA. It may not be the best compromise,
but it will definitely be more efficient than the current manual
approach.

John
Project MVP
 
C

Claire

Yes, I admit it seems like she's being difficult and I know I have some
wiggle room but at a certain point she'll tell me that it's not close enough
and she'd just rather do it herself with her crazy Excel spreadsheet.

So, I'll try to clarify. As I understand it, my resource pool is the best
place to do this because that's what everything is tied to and I can display
the Project name for multiple projects and then see the tasks assigned across
multiple projects. So I open the resource pool, I open Resource Usage view.
I've added a column for Project name and sorted by that. I also have Group by
Assignments keeping outline structure. So now I have the following - columns
separated by | :

Project Name | Resource Name (with tasks indented underneath) | Work Hours

Then on the right side of the split I have a window (don't know what it's
called) that has Details, dates organized by 1 week running across the top,
and in each individual cell that corresponds to a task there is the time
assigned for that task - like 8H.

So, in the report that she creates in Excel, it's this:

Project | Dates organized by week running across the top

Then in the cells for each date, usually starting with Monday, she has the
name of the person assigned in that row (usually starting in the Monday cell)
and then an arrow running across to the end of the week or number of days
they're assigned. She doesn't really care about the individual tasks because
she already has a general idea what they're doing and she's just looking for
gaps and overlap in assignments. We also have generic resources entries of
"Carpenter 1, Carpenter 2, etc." and then while looking over this list she
fills in the available carpenters and replaces those placeholders.

So, can I somehow display something other than 8H in the week/day cells on
the Resource Usage view? The other thing I was trying to get to is that the
tasks do display in the resource pool when I'm in the Resource Usage view but
not in the Task Usage or Gantt tracking views. And I think she'd be ok with
the bars that indicate time span in the Gantt tracking instead of her arrows
and I might get her to accept that better but the tasks from the other
projects don't display there. Can I get them to display? Or can I have the
window on the right of the Resource Usage view display more like a Gantt
chart?

It's quite possible that this just doesn't work that way and I'm going to
have to get her to be more flexible for the ease of use Project provides for
me and the rest of her staff. I just didn't want to give up without checking
with the experts. I hope I made more sense this time around.

Claire
 
J

John

Claire,
Thanks for the excellent clarification. You'd be amazed at how many
times I have to ask for more information when people post. You get a
gold star!

OK, that was the good news. Let me respond directly to your paragraphs.
Yes, I admit it seems like she's being difficult and I know I have some
wiggle room but at a certain point she'll tell me that it's not close enough
and she'd just rather do it herself with her crazy Excel spreadsheet.
I know it may seem "crazy" but in her mind it makes sense. Most people
are much more comfortable with Excel than Project, and for good reason -
Excel is more intuitive and user friendly. However, Excel is mediocre at
best for scheduling.
So, I'll try to clarify. As I understand it, my resource pool is the best
place to do this because that's what everything is tied to and I can display
the Project name for multiple projects and then see the tasks assigned across
multiple projects. So I open the resource pool, I open Resource Usage view.
I've added a column for Project name and sorted by that. I also have Group by
Assignments keeping outline structure. So now I have the following - columns
separated by | :

Project Name | Resource Name (with tasks indented underneath) | Work Hours
Actually in a Usage view what you see is assignments, not tasks. It's a
fine distinction but it is good to know that Project has three major
components - Tasks, Resources and Assignments. The latter is the bridge
between the other two.
Then on the right side of the split I have a window (don't know what it's
called) that has Details, dates organized by 1 week running across the top,
and in each individual cell that corresponds to a task there is the time
assigned for that task - like 8H.
We've had some discussion recently among the MVPs as to exactly what the
right side of the Usage view should be called. I say its a "sheet"
because of its similarity to a worksheet. Other's say it is, well, they
didn't really say.
So, in the report that she creates in Excel, it's this:

Project | Dates organized by week running across the top

Then in the cells for each date, usually starting with Monday, she has the
name of the person assigned in that row (usually starting in the Monday cell)
and then an arrow running across to the end of the week or number of days
they're assigned. She doesn't really care about the individual tasks because
she already has a general idea what they're doing and she's just looking for
gaps and overlap in assignments. We also have generic resources entries of
"Carpenter 1, Carpenter 2, etc." and then while looking over this list she
fills in the available carpenters and replaces those placeholders.

So, can I somehow display something other than 8H in the week/day cells on
the Resource Usage view? The other thing I was trying to get to is that the
tasks do display in the resource pool when I'm in the Resource Usage view but
not in the Task Usage or Gantt tracking views. And I think she'd be ok with
the bars that indicate time span in the Gantt tracking instead of her arrows
and I might get her to accept that better but the tasks from the other
projects don't display there. Can I get them to display? Or can I have the
window on the right of the Resource Usage view display more like a Gantt
chart?
In answer to your first question, no, the data displayed in the cells is
strictly limited to the type of data displayed - it is not user
definable. On your second issue, "tasks" do not display in the resource
pool because normally a resource pool file has nothing but resources
(i.e. no tasks). And that's the whole point - it is a resource pool
only. So, you will not be able to display tasks from all sharer files,
(that's what the files that use a resource pool are called), in the
resource pool file. However, you can get the equivalent by creating a
master file. Use the following steps.
1. Open a new blank project file.
2. Go to Insert/Project
3. In the Insert Projects window that appears, select all sharer files
and hit "insert". During the process you will probably get a message
asking if you want to open the pool file. Say "yes".

At that point you will have a master file with all the tasks from each
of the individual projects. You can add the Project field and filter or
group as desired. However, remember that what you see in any task view
(e.g. Gantt) are tasks, not assignments. If your resources are assigned
individually to each task at 100%, then the Gantt bars will in effect
represent the assignment period of that resource. However, if you have
multiple resources assigned to any given task or the assignments are not
over the full task span, then no task view is going to show the data
your boss wants to see, that is, the assignment period of each resource.
It's quite possible that this just doesn't work that way and I'm going to
have to get her to be more flexible for the ease of use Project provides for
me and the rest of her staff. I just didn't want to give up without checking
with the experts. I hope I made more sense this time around.
You opened the door that perhaps your boss may have some flexibility. In
that case, if she can be specific on what she needs, and I'm talking
about a "need" not a desired format, then there are definitely one or
more approaches that can be used. For example, there is a field called
Remaining Availability. That can be displayed in the Resource Usage view
in tabular form on the right side of the screen. It seems to me that
that is the data your boss may really want. That data can even be
exported to Excel (from the pool file) by using the utility "analyze
timescale data in Excel" found on the "Analysis" toolbar.

John
 
J

Jim Aksel

Might this help --
1. Assume there is exactly one resource assigned to each task.
2. Rather than using the Resource Usage View, use the Gantt Chart view
3. Insert a colum Resource Names and hide any other unwanted columns
4. Use Project/Group By/Customize Group by...
5. Specify the first sort criteria as "Resource Name"

The view can be created as a custom view. If you have a lot of data to hide
this will help.

The resultant sort is pretty much a Gantt Chart with pretty bars spanning
time. Your boss can then look for overlaps and gaps in resource utilization.
Yes, it does show all the nitty gritty tasks, but its quick and easy.

Although I don't think this will work, you can use the calendar view and the
format the task bars to contain the resource name. I like the Gantt Chart
version better since it shows task names and resources.

Now, let me join with John - if you'd permit another rant. It took me less
than 30 seconds to create this view and it seems to meet the needs you've
identified. Tell your boss doing it your way will allow her to spend less
time doing clerk things and more time working with her people solving
problems (which is what she was hired to do). Your way saves the company
money and is accurrate without mistakes.

[You should read what I deleted here .... hee hee]

A final thought, take your report and print it out. Then get a black
sharpie and color in the 8 hours so the blocks are black and put an arrow on
the ends of each bar. Hey, it works.
 
C

Claire

John,

I was pretty sure what was showing up in the resource view wasn't the true
tasks but I'd forgotten about the assignment piece. Anyhow, I'll proposed the
resource pool report first but I'll also try the master file and see what
kind of data I can pull from that. It was another one of my questions - how
to create reports across multiple projects. I certainly wasn't going to try
to manage all the projects in one file but for specific reporting that would
probably be the way to go - or to export it to Excel. I have 3-4 monthly
reports that they have always created manually all based off the various
ongoing projects. They own copies of Project but have never used it as they
should and I know that somehow Project can do all this I just have to figure
out how. I'm sure I'll be posting again.

Thanks!

Claire

Thanks again!

Claire
 
J

John

Claire said:
John,

I was pretty sure what was showing up in the resource view wasn't the true
tasks but I'd forgotten about the assignment piece. Anyhow, I'll proposed the
resource pool report first but I'll also try the master file and see what
kind of data I can pull from that. It was another one of my questions - how
to create reports across multiple projects. I certainly wasn't going to try
to manage all the projects in one file but for specific reporting that would
probably be the way to go - or to export it to Excel. I have 3-4 monthly
reports that they have always created manually all based off the various
ongoing projects. They own copies of Project but have never used it as they
should and I know that somehow Project can do all this I just have to figure
out how. I'm sure I'll be posting again.

Thanks!

Claire

Thanks again!

Claire

Claire,
You're welcome. We anxiously await your next post :)

John
 
M

Mike Glen

Hi Claire,

If you're going down the master paln route, you might like to have a look at
my series on Microsoft Project in the TechTrax ezine, particularly #17 & 18
on multiple projects, at this site: http://tinyurl.com/2xbhc or this:
http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/Pub0009/LPMFrame.asp?CMD=ArticleSearch&AUTH=23
(Perhaps you'd care to rate the article before leaving the site, :)
Thanks.)

FAQs, companion products and other useful Project information can be seen at
this web address: <http://www.mvps.org/project/>

Hope this helps - please let us know how you get on :)

Mike Glen
MS Project MVP
 
J

John

Mike Glen said:
Hi Claire,

If you're going down the master paln route, you might like to have a look at
my series on Microsoft Project in the TechTrax ezine, particularly #17 & 18
on multiple projects, at this site: http://tinyurl.com/2xbhc or this:
http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/Pub0009/LPMFrame.asp?CMD=ArticleSearch&AUTH
=23
(Perhaps you'd care to rate the article before leaving the site, :)
Thanks.)

FAQs, companion products and other useful Project information can be seen at
this web address: <http://www.mvps.org/project/>

Hope this helps - please let us know how you get on :)

Mike Glen
MS Project MVP

Mike,
When I first read your response, I read "paln" as "pain" and I thought,
how appropriate :)

John
 

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