This is absurd

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Paul Knudsen

I really, really, really, really, really, really tried hard not to criticize
microsoft, becuase I know some of you worship Bill Gates as your God, but
what just happened is beyond absurd. The world is in heap big trouble with
Microsoft at the helm of the software industry.

A little while ago, I got a notice that an update was ready. I didn't know
why I received it, becuase my system was set to receive Automatic updates,

I've never seen this. But, then again, I don't have Automatic Updates
turned on. Did Gates hold a gun to your head and demand you turn it
on? No? Then whose fault is it?
 
C

Charlie Tame

Paul Knudsen said:
I've never seen this. But, then again, I don't have Automatic Updates
turned on. Did Gates hold a gun to your head and demand you turn it
on? No? Then whose fault is it?


The point is that if an "Update" requires a new EULA it cannot be fully
automatic else the user would be deprived of the choice... :)
 
B

Biggerbyte

Mark A. Sam said:
I'm sorry for this post. I didn't want to offend, annoy or anger any of you.
I just get tired of constantly fighting with software, and this just pushed
me over the edge. Little quirks take too much of my time, and there are
many of them.


Mark, do yourself a favor and just go download I.E. 7 and install it. Don't
worry about all the B.S. in here, as you have done nothing wrong. Be sure to
disable your Antivirus upon install, disable your addons for I.E. 6 that have
to do with any type of Virus or Spyware checking. One good example would be
spywareblaster. Now, you want to also be sure and reenable all this stuff
once you have completed the install.


You should end up with a healthy install of you do it right. Please remember
to not expect I.E. 7 to be perfect, however. You will find some things that
are not quite right, especially on some sights. Be patient and enjoy the
positive of the software until Microsoft can work the kinks out.

Good luck...
 
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William Stacey [C# MVP]

I think I remember having the same "issue". I think what happened was the
install uninstalled IE7 (*and rolled back last IE) first and asks for a
reboot before continue. When the machine started up, IE7 install had not
happened yet, only the uninstall step. You run setup again to install IE7
and it finished - for me without a reboot IIRC. It was a bit strange, but I
just thought I may have missed a dialog or two with some foggy clicking on
my part. But the sky did not fall down here and I don't think G gets this
close to the install process anymore.

--
William Stacey [C# MVP]

|I really, really, really, really, really, really tried hard not to
criticize
| microsoft, becuase I know some of you worship Bill Gates as your God, but
| what just happened is beyond absurd. The world is in heap big trouble
with
| Microsoft at the helm of the software industry.
....
 
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William Stacey [C# MVP]

Actually, if you think about it, they may have done us all a big favor. So
many times a beta product does not uninstall all its hooks correctly and
even installing the new version does not fix it. It smells like they did a
very good job of removing the old and getting machine into a known good
state before the new install. It is just a guess, but I have not had any
issues since the new install.

--
William Stacey [C# MVP]

| I'm sorry for this post. I didn't want to offend, annoy or anger any of
you.
| I just get tired of constantly fighting with software, and this just
pushed
| me over the edge. Little quirks take too much of my time, and there are
| many of them.
|
|
|
|
| | >I really, really, really, really, really, really tried hard not to
| >criticize microsoft, becuase I know some of you worship Bill Gates as
your
| >God, but what just happened is beyond absurd. The world is in heap big
| >trouble with Microsoft at the helm of the software industry.
| >
| > A little while ago, I got a notice that an update was ready. I didn't
| > know why I received it, becuase my system was set to receive Automatic
| > updates, and the caption on the notification said "Automatic Update".
| > First what is automatic about an update that asks me? Someone out to
| > knock Bill Gates on the head and ask, "Is anyone in there?". But that
| > isn't the problem, just a prelude. I'm really the idiote for saying
yes
| > to the update. It was an Internet Exporer v7 update, or so it said. I
| > said yes, then it asked me if I accept the license, and of course I did.
| > The next thing I saw was that Internet Explorer V7 was being installed
| > ( I had it installed over a month ago). Then it said it was
uninstalling
| > a previous version and I thought, Uh Oh!!!!!! And rightfully so. I was
| > asked to restart my computer and naturally I couldn't ignor that
request,
| > becuase it kept coming back and bugging me. So I said yes, and nothing
| > happened. So I tried to restart and it wouldn't. Finally after a
several
| > attempts I opened the task manager and dumped a bunch of programs then
| > was able to restart. After I restated, I opened up IE and went to open
a
| > new tab and there weren't any. HUH, I asked myself? No tabs? I like
| > tabs, what happened? This is what happened, the update uninstalled
| > version 7 and installed version 6.
| >
| > Do I need to say any more? I can't, becuase there is no description
| > suitable to describe this, except, HUH!!!!!
| >
| > I think Microsoft need some updating of personnel, starting with Bill
| > Gates and continuing until the last programmer is booted. Keep the
| > cleaning crew and the cafeteria staff.
| >
|
|
 
G

Gary G. Little

The question here is whether or not you can install the release version of
IE7 over a beta of IE7. I suspect that you cannot, and hence some of your
problems. From your original post, Mark I get the general feeling that you
did not bother to read the dialog boxes that popped up telling you to exit
any running programs before installing IE7. Lots of things I'll install
without doing that, but a new version of IE I consistently install with as
pristine a runtime as I can.

I down loaded and installed IE7 x64 over an existing IE6 install and thus
far (he says knocking on wood) I have had zero problems; if anything it is a
huge improvement over IE6 x64. Were I you, I'd un-install any instance of
IE7, get IE 6 happy and then upgrade to IE 7 again ... or just keep IE 6.

--
The personal opinion of
Gary G. Little


Mark A. Sam said:
What's a beta? I wasn't informed that version 7 is a beta. I was
available on the Microsoft site as the new version. No beta involved.
 
L

Leythos

yes you can - the final release of IE7 uninstalls any existing beta as part
of its install process.

And we all know that all BETA applications uninstall completely and
properly without any chance that they will leave anything behind that
might cause problems :)
 
G

Gordon

Gary G. Little said:
The question here is whether or not you can install the release version of
IE7 over a beta of IE7.


yes you can - the final release of IE7 uninstalls any existing beta as part
of its install process.
 
C

Cowboy \(Gregory A. Beamer\)

Did you notice that the groups you posted to (at least most) have NOTHING to
do with the topic you are raging on about? This makes you a TROLL. I am not
saying this because I worship Bill Gates as a god, but because in your "I
was robbed" speech, you stepped over the line as well. Makes it rather hard
to sit and take you seriously.

For the record, I think the IE 7 forced upgrade is unwise, perhaps even
stupid. It sounds like you had a bad upgrade. Download the bits and install
again. On the one machine that I have seen with a bad update, it worked fine
after that.

Next, if you decide to follow up, do this.

1. Write your rant
2. Erase it. You will now have calmed down
3. State your point in an intelligent and calm manner

If you follow this three step plan (to avoid having to go through a 12 step
plan :p), you will find that things are much nicer.

Now, to your issue: Did you notice any other symptoms of armeggedon other
than no tabs? :)

--
Gregory A. Beamer
MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA
http://gregorybeamer.spaces.live.com

*************************************************
Think outside of the box!
*************************************************
 
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Brian Tillman

Leythos said:
And we all know that all BETA applications uninstall completely and
properly without any chance that they will leave anything behind that
might cause problems :)

Case in point. I installed the released IE7 on top of IE7 RC1 on two
different machines. Help>About shows version 7.0.5730.11 on one and
7.0.5730.11CO on the other. I have no idea why they're different.
 

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