True File Names

[Peter]

How can I find out the true name of a file?
Windows Explorer normally shows file names in mostly lower case, which
doesn't matter in a case-oblivious environment like Windows, but when I send
them to a case sensitive environment like Unix it does.
When saving a Word doc to Html, Word saves pictures with all upper case
names, but then in the Html references them in lower case, which is
inconsistent, and downright frustrating when the page fails to find the
picture.
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[Susan Ramlet]

Hi, Peter,

Windows Explorer shows them in the case that they are saved in.

What version of Word are you using?

 

[Peter]

Hi Susan,
I'm using Word 2003 (11.8237.8221) SP3. When I Save as Web Page Filtered,
the src= references in the html are all lower case, the picture files are
listed in Windows Explorer in all lower case, but when I FTP them over to the
web host, which is a Unix box, I can see that they are named all in upper
case.

The pictures and other files I create myself are named and listed in mixed
case - all lower except where I choose to put capitals. These FTP across OK
and I can reference them exactly as I specified them, so it is not FTP
changing the form.

Word is inconsitent in creating in one form and referencng in another, and
Explorer is misleading in representing in lower case when the names are
actually in upper case.

I was hoping to find a utility (maybe 3rd party) which displays file names
in their true form. Explorer clearly does not.

 

[Peter]

Susan

My FTP host and client display file names as they are, and not converted to
lower case as Explorer does. Take a look at
http://www.wellesbourne.f9.co.uk/welsweb/wwn/April09/ . You will see that
most of the image files, IMAGE001.JPG ... are in uppper case, but one I
edited, Image016.gif , which appears after IMAGE024.JPG because 'm' appears
later in the collating sequence than 'M', is in mixed case. Notice too that
there are 2 versions of some of the Html files such as MENU.HTM and menu.htm,
since these are different names on a Unix box. It is difficult to rename or
delete in the FTP environment so I just renamed them and sent them again.

I am not familiar with any other groups - can you give me the address of the
best one to post on please?

I don't use Word to edit html, only to create it from word docs.
Word 2003 creates far too much code, even in Filtered mode. Unfiltered
there's so much extra code it's impossible to see the text.
Word 98 is quite good - it creates minimal html, though it doesn't nest tags
correctly.
Another problem with Word 2003 is it slavishly reproduces local overrides
instead of noticing that large swathes of text have common formatting which
a good web developer would put into a css declaration at the head of the file
or externally.

With the file naming I suspect Word might be in a time warp:
When I create a picture file in Paintshop 6 it is named as I choose, and if
I leave off the extension it puts on the appropriate one in lower case.
When I create a picture file in Paintshop 3, which is of a Dos generation it
is in 8.3 format in upper case. I suspect that the picture file generation
module in Word has not been updated as no-one saw any need to do so, since it
appears to work in a case-oblivious environment.

 

[Peter]

Susan

Looks like you're onto something here.

Can you please tell me where to find "Web Options" and in particular the two
switches you set. If I could set "use long file names" then presumably Word
would save in long format with lower case names and my problem would be
solved.
I couldn't find "Use long file names" anywhere.

It doesn't answer my original question, but should solve my problem, so I'll
be happy with that.

 

[Susan Ramlet]

In Word, when you're saving the file:

File
Save As...
There's a "Tools" menu at the top of the "Save As" dialog
Web Options

The various tabs and settings in there may be of some help. Post back with
your results--

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Susan Ramlet
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Susan

Looks like you're onto something here.

Can you please tell me where to find "Web Options" and in particular the
two
switches you set. If I could set "use long file names" then presumably
Word
would save in long format with lower case names and my problem would be
solved.
I couldn't find "Use long file names" anywhere.

It doesn't answer my original question, but should solve my problem, so
I'll
be happy with that.