Unable to install 2000 Publisher upgrade on new computer

[JAdams]

I have a new computer with office xp professional, but
the publisher application that came with xp does not have
the same functionality of the office 2000 professional
publisher that i created most of my publications with. I
can not get the "2000 upgrade" that I purchased to
install on my new computer. It says that there is not a
valid product to update. Is there some way around this?

 

[Mary Sauer]

Do you have any old Microsoft product disks that you can install? Works, Excel,
Access, PowerPoint, Lotus 1-2-3, Microsoft Project or Word.
Publisher 2002 is superior to 2000. What features are you missing?

 

[JoAnn Paules]

Judy,

I don't understand what you mean by "the publisher application that came
with XP doesn't have the same functionality of the 2000". Actually Pub 2002
is a better version. I can't think of anything that 2000 did that 2002
doesn't.

As for putting 2000 on your new computer, it sounds like you had an older
version of Office origianlly, then purchased the 2000 upgrade. To get Pub
2000 on your computer, you'll have to locate the disks for the original
version of Office. When it prompts you for finding the qualifying version,
point the browser to the CD drive with the old version of Office disk in it.
If that dowsn't work, try installing the old version of Office. Make sure
you know where your Product Key is before you get started. (Otherwise you'll
be back here asking us what to do when you don't have your old Product Key.)

 

[Jadams]

The main thing missing in the v 2003 that I have is the
ability to set Form controls as required. When creating
a request form it is quite important to ensure we get all
of their information.

 

[JoAnn Paules]

Wait - which version of Publisher are you asking about - 2002 or 2003?

 

[DavidF]

JoAnn, Though both you and Mary are probably correct to say that Pub 2002 is
superior to Pub 2000, there are at least three ways that I feel Pub 2000 is
better for me. I don't have to mess with activation, I don't have to
download clipart and lastly 2000 is superior for building websites, which is
apparently what the JAdams is doing when asking about Form controls. I guess
I am in the minority with Don and have found no compelling reason to
upgrade...and several reasons not to.

The second half of your advice is helpful, but you might also remind JAdams
to install everything in a separate folder.

DavidF

Judy,

I don't understand what you mean by "the publisher application that came
with XP doesn't have the same functionality of the 2000". Actually Pub 2002
is a better version. I can't think of anything that 2000 did that 2002
doesn't.

As for putting 2000 on your new computer, it sounds like you had an older
version of Office origianlly, then purchased the 2000 upgrade. To get Pub
2000 on your computer, you'll have to locate the disks for the original
version of Office. When it prompts you for finding the qualifying version,
point the browser to the CD drive with the old version of Office disk in it.
If that dowsn't work, try installing the old version of Office. Make sure
you know where your Product Key is before you get started. (Otherwise you'll
be back here asking us what to do when you don't have your old Product Key.)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

I have a new computer with office xp professional, but
the publisher application that came with xp does not have
the same functionality of the office 2000 professional
publisher that i created most of my publications with. I
can not get the "2000 upgrade" that I purchased to
install on my new computer. It says that there is not a
valid product to update. Is there some way around this?

 

[Ed Bennett]

A small child turns to Ed, and exclaims: "Look! Look! A post from

JoAnn, Though both you and Mary are probably correct to say that Pub
2002 is superior to Pub 2000, there are at least three ways that I
feel Pub 2000 is better for me. I don't have to mess with activation,

"Messing with activation" is the quickest and easiest thing I've ever done.
Connect to internet, click 2 buttons. Done. Takes a little longer on the
phone, but is far less complicated than:
- Programming a VCR
- Using a digital microwave
- Installing Publisher 2000
- Text messaging
- Many other quite simple things.

I don't have to download clipart

You don't have to download ClipArt in Publisher 2002. Publisher 2002 comes
with the Media Content disc containing lots and lots of ClipArt. As with
before, download is an option if you want something that's not there.
Publisher 2003 is another matter.

and lastly 2000 is superior for
building websites, which is apparently what the JAdams is doing when
asking about Form controls.

I concede on this one, as I don't use Publisher for webdesign.
But you can keep Publisher 2000 and 2003 installed on the same system.

I guess I am in the minority with Don and
have found no compelling reason to upgrade...

I couldn't have thought of a really compelling reason to upgrade to
Publisher 2002 or 2003, but once I started using them they felt so much more
comfortable and intuitive to use than the previous versions - working with
me instead of against me.
(One thing that was a "HALLELUJAH!" (play chorus from Handel's Messiah here)
moment was when I discovered the new WordArt in Publisher 2002 - notably
absent from Publisher but present in Word and PowerPoint since 97)

The second half of your advice is helpful, but you might also remind
JAdams to install everything in a separate folder.

Office 2000, XP, and 2003 can technically all coexist in one folder, as they
all use different subfolders (\Microsoft Office\Office; \Microsoft
Office\OFFICE10; \Microsoft Office\Office11 respectively). I've done it
with Office XP and Office 2003.

 

[Brian Kvalheim - [MSFT MVP]]

Hi Ed Bennett ([email protected]),
in the newsgroups
you posted:
||| The second half of your advice is helpful, but you might also remind
||| JAdams to install everything in a separate folder.
|| Office 2000, XP, and 2003 can technically all coexist in one folder,
|| as they all use different subfolders (\Microsoft Office\Office;
|| \Microsoft Office\OFFICE10; \Microsoft Office\Office11
|| respectively). I've done it with Office XP and Office 2003.

An not so obvious disadvantage (in some opinions) about Publisher 2003 is
the requirement for them to upgrade their OS from Windows 95/98/ME/NT4 when
they are completely comfortable with their OS. So a $99 Publisher upgrade
could become a $300 upgrade after getting a new OS.

But to Don and David, if you are not using the web features of Publisher,
Windows XP and Publisher 2003 upgrades are no brainers in my opinion. If you
are dead set on not upgrading your OS to obtain Publisher 2003, PagePlus 9
by Serif is a good alternative that has better web support, many different
features that Publisher doesn't offer (but still missing some key features
such as the catalog merge) and is supported on all those older OS's.
--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com
~pay it forward~

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.

 

[JoAnn Paules]

Silly me - I use FrontPage for websites.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



(snip)

 

[DavidF]

Ed, The main reason I replied to JoAnn was her comment that "I can't think
of anything that 2000 did that 2002 doesn't", and it appeared that Jadams
was using Publisher 2000 for his web site. There is a huge difference
between how 2000 handles web pages vs. 2002 and even 2003, and I felt that
Jadams should know that.

Sorry I 'activated' your button about product activation, but no matter how
simple it is, it is a difference between 2000 and 2002, and was directed to
JoAnn's comment.

As to the rest, thanks for your corrections. I guess I should have limited
my comments to the website building differences between 2000 and 2002.

DavidF

 

[DavidF]

Brian, Both Don and I do use Pub 2000 to build our websites, which in my
case was one of the reasons I did not upgrade to 2002. I also did not see
any of the added features of 2002 being of any real value to me and how I
use Publisher. Until recently I could not even consider 2003 as neither my
laptop or desktop could run XP. Now I have a new XP machine, but wouldn't
want to deal with the problems of having Pub 2000 on the laptop and a
different version on my desktop.

I would never want to try to argue that pub 2002 and 2003 aren't better than
2000, or that XP isn't a better OS. However, you can never have something
new without giving up something old, and there is always a cost as you point
out. For me to upgrade to Publisher 2003 I would not only have the expense
of the software, but also a new laptop with XP and probably the cost and
time to learn FrontPage or some other more suitable web publishing software
and rebuilding my site. Upgrading to XP has already cost the use of one of
my printers, and my scanner for lack of drivers. For me upgrading to Pub
2003 and gaining features and functionality that I don't need is clearly not
cost effective in terms of time or money.

As per PagePlus, it does seem that it has many advantages but once again
there would be the cost in time and money, and since Publisher 2000 already
does everything I need, I can't see myself switching. I have always looked
at the tradeoffs of upgrading or switching software. If the costs and
tradeoffs are worth the added functionality, then do it, but to upgrade just
to upgrade isn't worth it to me. I noticed you asking in the Works newsgroup
about the newest 'improved' version of Works that just came out . Are you
ready to 'upgrade' from version 4.5a to 8? Sometimes if it ain't broke, you
shouldn't fix it.

DavidF

 

[DavidF]

JoAnn,

I would never argue that FrontPage is not better for websites than
Publisher, but in some cases it isn't worth the expense or the learning
curve. If one only wants a simple website and already owns Publisher 2000
then Publisher could be the best choice. In my case I use Publisher 2000 in
my work to prepare a wide variety of marketing materials. When I decided to
build a website I considered FrontPage and other more specialized website
building software, but cost in terms of time and money were not worth it. It
has been far easier for me to pull elements from my print publications and
integrate them into my website using Publisher, than to buy, learn and use
FrontPage. Given the major changes in how Publisher 2002 and 2003 build
sites, I don't know that I would make the same decision today, but until I
reach the place where I cannot do what I need to do with Publisher 2000 why
change?

DavidF

Silly me - I use FrontPage for websites.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

(snip)


But to Don and David, if you are not using the web features of Publisher,
Windows XP and Publisher 2003 upgrades are no brainers in my opinion. If
you are dead set on not upgrading your OS to obtain Publisher 2003,
PagePlus 9 by Serif is a good alternative that has better web support,
many different features that Publisher doesn't offer (but still missing
some key features such as the catalog merge) and is supported on all those
older OS's.
--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com
~pay it forward~

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.

 

[Brian Kvalheim - [MSFT MVP]]

Well stated David. I have a few customers at our UPS Store that are also
happy with and dead set on staying with Publisher 2000 as well. And since
their is no expiration, it should work just fine for the rest of your life
.

As for Works, I have EVERY version and plan on buying version 8.0. I have
version 4.5 and 7.0 installed now, and once I get version 8, I will dump 7.0
and keep both 8.0 and 4.5 on my machine.
--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com
~pay it forward~

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.

 

[Brian Kvalheim - [MSFT MVP]]

Yes,

If you put the Media Content CD in the hard drive, you will be prompted to
install the entire clipart contents to your hard drive.
--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com
~pay it forward~

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.