I'm completely confused about this

[Carrie]

I know, it's probably been asked and answered before, and last night and
this morning I tried every combination I could see that might work, writing
down each time what I did. It seems so easy.

I have been making notecards (using Publisher 2000) Tent cards, landscape
setup (for the picture on the front) This involves several settings, first
the Publisher one (page setup) also the print setup, and my Canon Pixma
ip6000D printer software has page setup, and various options, also.

I have this set up fine to print the tent cards, landscape format. They
print 2 to a page. I have 4 pages set up, experimenting showed me what to
put where, and the duel printing brings the paper back in and prints the
"inside" pages of the card. This works perfectly. I keep the setup saved and
just add different pictures, words, etc. whatever I need.

The problem is, when I have a picture that's more tall and narrow and I
want to print a card in the portrait setting.

There is a setting for this in page set up, and I've changed the h and w
and setup in all different ways. I can't do much with page setup (in
Publisher) because I can see it messes up the card setup when I do. So, this
basically has to stay at portait setup. I have tried changing the size, and
settings.

It also says on the bottom two cards will be printed on each piece of
paper. Which is what I want.

I've tried various settings in the print set up, with Publisher and the
printer, and it always comes out wrong. Facing the wrong way on the paper or
one BIG card prints on the whole page. I've tried the printer settings for
"booklet printing" too. The printer also has a setting "page layout
printing" which I would think would be printing it the way it's set up in
Publisher. But, it comes out the wrong way on the paper, not bookfold with
everything in the right place.

It seems like I have to h ave the page set up (Publisher) set to portait
because that's how the picture, etc. fits with the card guildelines. So, it
must be something in the other settings, and the multiple ways of setting
them. Getting the combination of setting just right, so Publisher and the
printer will work the way I want.

A few times when I've wanted to do this, I've used the tent fold setting
(I use for wider, open from the bottom cards) and turn the picture sideways
on it, and align the writing, logo, etc. so it prints out correctly to be
cut in half and folded like a book.

I doubt this is the correct way of doing it, and it's hard getting
pictures, wording, logo, etc on correctly (even though I just remembered my
flat screen monitor can be turned on it's side so I don't try and look at
the picture on the screen sidesways)

I've been trying every way/combination I can think of (besides turning
the picture and/or monitor sideways) and nothing works. Not even close
enough so I could figure it out from there.

This is page 1 the way it's set up in Publisher ( sideways in order to
get it to print portrait like a book fold)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/portrait1.jpg

This is page 2 in Publisher

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/portrait2.jpg

This is how it prints set up like that

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/portraitpage.jpg

This is how I want it, but I don't want to have to set it up sideways in
Publisher to get it to come out like that.

I know there is a simple answer to this and I'm making it complicated but
I've tried it so many ways I'm totally lost.

I can set it up fine as "portait" (in page setup) in Publisher, it's
getting it to bring that way, without setting it up on the landscape
settings- sideways that's my problem.

Thanks (for the patience with us totally confused people (LOL)

~ Carrie

 

[Ed Bennett]

This is page 1 the way it's set up in Publisher ( sideways in order to
get it to print portrait like a book fold)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/portrait1.jpg

This is page 2 in Publisher

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/portrait2.jpg

This is how it prints set up like that

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/portraitpage.jpg

This is how I want it, but I don't want to have to set it up sideways in
Publisher to get it to come out like that.

Here's how I set about doing what I *think* you're asking for (I
currently have the attention span of a small mayfly, so didn't manage to
read your entire epic message, so went on the basis of what I quoted):

Easy way:

Set up your printer for 8.5"x11", then set up your page for Booklet,
4.25"x5.5"

Create your 4-page booklet (i.e. card).

Print.

Publisher automagically imposes two copies per sheet, giving the output
you show in your picture.

Hard way (guess which way I did first!):
Set up your publication as Tabloid (11x17), booklet, if you want to end
up printing on 8.5x11 paper (this is to match up proportions). You can
use any A-size paper, booklet, if you want to print on any A-size paper.

Design your publication as a four-page booklet once.

Turn off two-page spread.

Create copies of each page so that your publication has the page order:

Front ---------------.
Rear --------------. |
Inside Right ----. | |
Inside Left --. | | |
Inside Right --' | | |
Inside Left ----' | |
Front -------------' |
Rear ----------------'

(Spread page pairs are marked with the lines)

Set up your printer to be a PDF printer at Tabloid page size. Print to
this, ensuring that Publisher knows to print as a booklet.

Open the PDF created in Adobe Reader. Go to File > Print.
In the Print dialog, under Page Scaling, select Multiple Pages Per
Sheet. Select "2" under Pages per sheet, and make sure Auto-Rotate Pages
is selected. Make sure that your printer driver is set to Letter-sized
paper, and set up the duplexer if required.

Print.

(This would have been so much easier if Acrobat didn't think it was so
damn clever - the entire page-rearranging step would be unnecessary if
you could print two copies, non-collated, to the PDF printer, as that's
what the page-rearranging step manages to simulate. Alternatively, if
Acrobat offered a "Multiple Copies Per Sheet" option (a la Publisher) as
well as the "Multiple Pages Per Sheet" option, then the rearranging
would also be redundant.

 

[Carrie]

Here's how I set about doing what I *think* you're asking for (I currently
have the attention span of a small mayfly, so didn't manage to read your
entire epic message, so went on the basis of what I quoted):

Easy way:

Set up your printer for 8.5"x11", then set up your page for Booklet,
4.25"x5.5"

Create your 4-page booklet (i.e. card).

Print.

Publisher automagically imposes two copies per sheet, giving the output
you show in your picture.

Hard way (guess which way I did first!):
Set up your publication as Tabloid (11x17), booklet, if you want to end up
printing on 8.5x11 paper (this is to match up proportions). You can use
any A-size paper, booklet, if you want to print on any A-size paper.

Design your publication as a four-page booklet once.

Turn off two-page spread.

Create copies of each page so that your publication has the page order:

Front ---------------.
Rear --------------. |
Inside Right ----. | |
Inside Left --. | | |
Inside Right --' | | |
Inside Left ----' | |
Front -------------' |
Rear ----------------'

(Spread page pairs are marked with the lines)

Set up your printer to be a PDF printer at Tabloid page size. Print to
this, ensuring that Publisher knows to print as a booklet.

Open the PDF created in Adobe Reader. Go to File > Print.
In the Print dialog, under Page Scaling, select Multiple Pages Per Sheet.
Select "2" under Pages per sheet, and make sure Auto-Rotate Pages is
selected. Make sure that your printer driver is set to Letter-sized paper,
and set up the duplexer if required.

Print.

(This would have been so much easier if Acrobat didn't think it was so
damn clever - the entire page-rearranging step would be unnecessary if you
could print two copies, non-collated, to the PDF printer, as that's what
the page-rearranging step manages to simulate. Alternatively, if Acrobat
offered a "Multiple Copies Per Sheet" option (a la Publisher) as well as
the "Multiple Pages Per Sheet" option, then the rearranging would also be
redundant.

okay, I will print this out and try it (the simple way)

I don't blame you for not reading all I wrote, it seemed like I was taking
a simple qu estion and making it complex (think being up till 1 AM and then
gettihng up this morning thinking "maybe it's THIS way? And by then my brain
had overloaded on it) Basically, I want to set up a card that opens like a
book (LOL)

I know, I've been doing it the hard way (turning it sideways on the
setup) too.

I'll let you know. I'm pretty sure there is one step I'm not doing right
or missing. Maybe calling it a booklet. Even though I want to print two per
page like a card.

 

[Carrie]

It worked!

Perfectly, even with the duel printing on, writing inside came out
perfectly.

I like how it shows all 4 "sides" open, too.

I made a test card (just to see... the dog picture is from Thank You cards I
just made for a local Animal Shelter- I mean for them to send and use I took
some of the pictures they had of pets up for adoption and made them look
like art in PhotoShop)

This is just how I wanted it, and I was messing around with the portait and
landscape orientations I didn't need to use. Of course, I was under the
impression I was making a CARD so I should use the "card" blank (tent card,
going the other way)

Posting a picture of 2 of the cards (one open) I made to test it, and
dedicating them to you.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/behappy2.jpg

You're my hero!

~ Carrie

 

[Ed Bennett]

Posting a picture of 2 of the cards (one open) I made to test it, and
dedicating them to you.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/starchild_dreams/behappy2.jpg

You're my hero!

Aww, thanks!