Image size publisher 2003

[john]

When I conpressed images in pub
pub file went from 18 megs to 3 megs
I uploaded to server and got it to work
some of the png files are still 150 kb
I will resize these in irfranview to about 25 and it should load alot faster


Thanks

 

[DavidF]

Hi John,

I haven't had much time, but I did look at the site while you had the Pub
2000 version up. (That was smart of you keeping the backup HTML) It appeared
to me that even in that version, the image quality was lacking. Yes, they
loaded fairly quickly, but I suspect that when the originals were inserted
they were not at 100% size, or something. Anyway I see that you have the Pub
2007 version up again.

It appears that compressing the Pub file was successful, and helped to a
point, with the overall size of your HTML output reduced to 3 megs. Good
job.

Did you also uncheck the VML and PNG options?

Are you satisfied with the quality of the images as they look when viewed on
the internet now, in the Pub 2007 version? If yes, are you just wanting them
to load even more quickly? From my perspective, they look pretty good...once
they load.

Let me check on a working assumption...you were given a Pub 2000 file, and
have been updating this file with Pub 2003, correct? You do not have access
to the original images?

I ask this because from my experience when I have opened a Pub 2000 file in
Pub 2003, and then tried to produce HTML files, I have ended up with some
unpredictable results, especially with images. Answer the above questions,
and I may have a workaround that I want to test to see if perhaps it would
help.

As to your other question about being able to change just the Rates page,
there are several possibilities. If you are using HTTP uploading protocols,
and your webhost has FrontPage Service Extensions, and are using the
incremental uploading option, then if you made a change to the Rates page,
in theory only those changes would be uploaded, not the entire site. I say
in theory, because I am quoting David Bartosik here...I haven't tried it
myself. Go to Help under Publisher and type in "incremental" to read about
this feature. He has also said that you have to go through the upload
process a few times before it starts working. Read more here:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/pages/80555.aspx

You also have the option of pulling that one page out of your main Publisher
file, and producing it with a second Publisher file, and building the site
with multiple files. This would mean that you could then update the Rates
page without touching the main site. To see an example of this approach,
here is a link to another poster who has built both an English and a Spanish
version of his website with two Publisher files, and linked the two
together. Click on the English button in the upper left corner to see the
English version: http://www.somoscapazes.org/index.html

Here is an article by David Bartosik explains the method: "Building a web
site with multiple Publisher web publication files":
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/16/81264.aspx
If you want to pursue this approach, there are several ways you could apply
it to your site.

DavidF

 

[DavidF]

John,

You can try that, but I suspect it is not going to help. Answer the
questions I have asked in my other response today, and perhaps I can offer a
better way.

DavidF

 

[DavidF]

John,

Check one more thing for me. Assuming that you have a copy of the original
Pub 2000 file, open it in Pub 2003. Then go to one or more of the images,
and select it...just click on it once. Then go to Format > Picture, and the
Size tab. Look under Scale, and tell me if that picture is at 100%, or what.

DavidF

 

[john]

I put the old one back over night that I first backed up, because I could
not get site to work (wrong place on server)
As soon as my head hit the pillow at bedtime I relished what was wrong so
first thing in the morning I rectified the problem
putting updated site as your instructions, and I"m happy with it, it could
be better but its acceptable and can be easily updated
Actually the pub file I was given is 39megs not 18 , and was reduced to 3 on
compression
I don't have the pub 2000 file, but I opened up the 39 meg 2003 file and all
images are set at 50%

What is pub 2007 like anything new worthwhile?

Thanks again for all the help

John

 

[DavidF]

If you are happy with the site, then so be it. However, if you want to work
with the images more, then go to that original file, open the Graphics
manager, and it should list all the images on the page. If you select one of
those pictures, and the dropdown arrow, then details, it will show you
whether the image is scaled, the file type etc.

You can go to that image that is embedded in your Publisher file, right
click, Save As Picture, choose a file name, and the file type, to your
computer. You now have a copy of the image as it appeared in your Publisher
document, and the reduced scale, and probably an artificially high
resolution. Because if you then go back to that image on your Pub doc,
Format, Size Tab, and change the scale to 100%, and then look in the Graphic
Manager, you will notice the scaling will reflect 100%, and the resolution
will be lower...probably what it was when it was inserted into your document
in the first place. So, again right click it and save it.

You now probably have the original image as it was inserted into the
Publisher document, plus a reduced scale version of that image. I would
experiment, and open both the full scale image and the reduced scale image
in your image editor, change the resolution to 96dpi, and resize it, try the
30% compression, and you now have an image that you can insert into your Pub
file that is probably more optimized than it was before. You can again use
the compress graphics tool in Publisher, and then Publish to the Web, and
check the size and loading speed of those images against what you have now.

I am sure that you are tired of this whole thing, but when you get inspired
again, perhaps open your original Publisher file, do a Save As a new name,
and then delete all the pages except for one of the pages with multiple
images, such as http://outsideinn.ca/index_files/Page564.htm
Then do another Save As to that one page Pub doc. You can use the first one
page document as representative of your site as it is now, and the second
pub doc as your test site where you insert newly optimized images, as above.
Then do a Publish to the Web for both files to folders on your computer, and
compare the images in the HTML output in terms of size and quality. You may
notice less PNG copies, or better JPG images, but through that testing, you
will eventually determine how best to optimize the images to get the fastest
loading pages, and still retain the good quality with the images.

OK...I am done now. Its up to you from this point...good luck.

DavidF