large publication

[mJ]

Hi,
I 'm working on a calendar for our business and I was told since I am
printing 10,000 calendars that I need to change the color mode from RGB to
CMYK. I did that and all colors went dull. Then I started a new publication
and preset the mode to CMYK and the colors are still very dull, specially the
black...it's almost gray rather than shiny black. Help! How can I change a
current publication to a shiny CMYK format or start a new publication with
CMYK format that will not produce dull colors?

 

[Mary Sauer]

Take a look here... There is an example of what you are experiencing and an
explanation.
CMYK versus RGB in Printing
http://www.impressionsinprint.ca/cmyk-vs-rgb.php

Publisher 2003 Document: PrePress Reference Guide
http://thesource.ofallevil.com/down...dc-e830-4f55-a9c3-78c3e0e11344&displaylang=en

 

[mJ]

THe problem is not with my images, as it demonstrates in the example you
sent, it is with the colours of Pub 07 has CMYK mode. I format a background
with 2 colours Say a Rich Burgandy and a Black. But then I look at my 12x12
colours and they are greyish, not the rich black I chose. And when I save as
a PDF the formated CMYK colours are greyish as well. What am I doing wrong?

 

[Ed Bennett]

THe problem is not with my images, as it demonstrates in the example you
sent, it is with the colours of Pub 07 has CMYK mode. I format a background
with 2 colours Say a Rich Burgandy and a Black. But then I look at my 12x12
colours and they are greyish, not the rich black I chose. And when I save as
a PDF the formated CMYK colours are greyish as well. What am I doing wrong?

a) What CMYK colour are you choosing as your black?
b) Did you convert the burgundy from RGB or did you respecify it as
CMYK? (If the former, then Publisher had to do the conversion)
c) Publisher has to convert from CMYK to RGB for display purposes, and
it isn't perfect at conversion in either direction.
d) Do you have your Advanced Print Setting set to print as CMYK
composite? If not, then Publisher's converting back to RGB on print
(making the whole exercise futile and also messing your colours up at
the same time, as it then converts back to RGB).

 

[Mary Sauer]

MJ, I know so little about commercial printing. Have you tried using the Pantone
colors that are available in the fill menu after you select commercial printing?
Or typing 0,0,0,100 in the More fill colors, custom?
If you knew the CMYK equivalent for Rich Burgundy you could manually change it
as well. According to Wikipedia the RGB is (128,0,32) Using a color picker, the
equivalent in CMYK is 0,128,96,127
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgundy_(color)
A very good color picker, free and small
http://www.nattyware.com/pixie.html

 

[Ed Bennett]

THe problem is not with my images, as it demonstrates in the example you
sent, it is with the colours of Pub 07 has CMYK mode.

P.S.

e) Have you asked in the .prepress newsgroup?

 

[mJ]

Thanks Mary, your link helped me out alot. I was picking my cymk as
(0,0,0,100) and it was coming out greyish. I had to pick it as
(100,100,100,100) and now it is rich black how I wanted it! I guess that
CMYK is a lot harder to work with than RGB. But it looks perfect now. The
only problem I'm having now is with word art. I created the letter S in
brush script, formatted it with white color and then enlarged it. It looks
good on publisher but the pixels look blocky on the PDF. When I enlarge the
PDf view to 800% the letter S looks smooth. How can I get it to look smooth
at 100%, or does it matter?

 

[Mary Sauer]

I printed the Brush script S with Acrobat, looks smooth to me.

I'm glad you got your colors all sorted. Thanks for letting us know, it is
appreciated.