Fixing position of page

T

tbear

I have some small menus created for a restaurant. They will be loaded on
their computer and when they need to change prices etc. all I want them to be
able to do is change prices and the food entry. I want to be able to lock the
position of the groups on the page so they cannot destory the format etc.
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]

I just don't think there's a way to do it. If they can edit anything, they
can edit everything. Assuming they are paying you for the work you're doing,
it's their product and they can do anything they want to it. Including screw
it up royally. (I know, that's the pits.) The only thing you can do is to
warn them if they move anything, they could destroy the format and then
they'd be paying you again to correct it. (Then again, that might not be a
bad thing............)
 
T

tbear

Thanks JoAnn.
I sort of had a nagging suspicion that I could not. They are freinds but are
not computer literate. Is it possable to drag it into Adobe and make it into
a form? I know crazy question.
Thanks again,
T

JoAnn Paules said:
I just don't think there's a way to do it. If they can edit anything, they
can edit everything. Assuming they are paying you for the work you're doing,
it's their product and they can do anything they want to it. Including screw
it up royally. (I know, that's the pits.) The only thing you can do is to
warn them if they move anything, they could destroy the format and then
they'd be paying you again to correct it. (Then again, that might not be a
bad thing............)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



tbear said:
I have some small menus created for a restaurant. They will be loaded on
their computer and when they need to change prices etc. all I want them to
be
able to do is change prices and the food entry. I want to be able to lock
the
position of the groups on the page so they cannot destory the format etc.
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]

Adobe what? And probably not. Since they are friends, why don't you maintain
the master file and just have them submit any changes to you when needed?

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



tbear said:
Thanks JoAnn.
I sort of had a nagging suspicion that I could not. They are freinds but
are
not computer literate. Is it possable to drag it into Adobe and make it
into
a form? I know crazy question.
Thanks again,
T

JoAnn Paules said:
I just don't think there's a way to do it. If they can edit anything,
they
can edit everything. Assuming they are paying you for the work you're
doing,
it's their product and they can do anything they want to it. Including
screw
it up royally. (I know, that's the pits.) The only thing you can do is to
warn them if they move anything, they could destroy the format and then
they'd be paying you again to correct it. (Then again, that might not be
a
bad thing............)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



tbear said:
I have some small menus created for a restaurant. They will be loaded on
their computer and when they need to change prices etc. all I want them
to
be
able to do is change prices and the food entry. I want to be able to
lock
the
position of the groups on the page so they cannot destory the format
etc.
 
T

tbear

JoAnn,
Adobe Acrobat 6 Pro. But your probably right. I will have to explain real
good not to mess with it and I will probably end up doing it any way. To bad
they seem to leave items out in some of these programs like that.
Thanks,
T

JoAnn Paules said:
Adobe what? And probably not. Since they are friends, why don't you maintain
the master file and just have them submit any changes to you when needed?

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



tbear said:
Thanks JoAnn.
I sort of had a nagging suspicion that I could not. They are freinds but
are
not computer literate. Is it possable to drag it into Adobe and make it
into
a form? I know crazy question.
Thanks again,
T

JoAnn Paules said:
I just don't think there's a way to do it. If they can edit anything,
they
can edit everything. Assuming they are paying you for the work you're
doing,
it's their product and they can do anything they want to it. Including
screw
it up royally. (I know, that's the pits.) The only thing you can do is to
warn them if they move anything, they could destroy the format and then
they'd be paying you again to correct it. (Then again, that might not be
a
bad thing............)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



I have some small menus created for a restaurant. They will be loaded on
their computer and when they need to change prices etc. all I want them
to
be
able to do is change prices and the food entry. I want to be able to
lock
the
position of the groups on the page so they cannot destory the format
etc.
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]

It's not really "left out". I think this is one of those situations where a
feature would only be used by one or two users. Since you have Acrobat Pro,
you could create a form but since I only have Acrobat Standard, I can't help
you with that. There is an Acrobat newsgroup - you could try there.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



tbear said:
JoAnn,
Adobe Acrobat 6 Pro. But your probably right. I will have to explain real
good not to mess with it and I will probably end up doing it any way. To
bad
they seem to leave items out in some of these programs like that.
Thanks,
T

JoAnn Paules said:
Adobe what? And probably not. Since they are friends, why don't you
maintain
the master file and just have them submit any changes to you when needed?

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



tbear said:
Thanks JoAnn.
I sort of had a nagging suspicion that I could not. They are freinds
but
are
not computer literate. Is it possable to drag it into Adobe and make it
into
a form? I know crazy question.
Thanks again,
T

:

I just don't think there's a way to do it. If they can edit anything,
they
can edit everything. Assuming they are paying you for the work you're
doing,
it's their product and they can do anything they want to it. Including
screw
it up royally. (I know, that's the pits.) The only thing you can do is
to
warn them if they move anything, they could destroy the format and
then
they'd be paying you again to correct it. (Then again, that might not
be
a
bad thing............)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



I have some small menus created for a restaurant. They will be loaded
on
their computer and when they need to change prices etc. all I want
them
to
be
able to do is change prices and the food entry. I want to be able to
lock
the
position of the groups on the page so they cannot destory the format
etc.
 
R

Ron Cohen

Here is a workaround that may help in locking all the element positions.
Once the menu is complete group all the items together. Then go to view at
about 10% so the entire pasteboard area is displayed. Create a blank text
frame or rectangle that completely fills the pasteboard area. Send it to the
back so the menu items will be on top and can be edited. Once this is done,
group the entire document. Unless they are fairly well versed in Publisher,
this should prevent any mischief. In lieu of a text frame or box, you create
a single horizontal and single vertical line that spans from pasteboard edge
to edge. Make the lines the same color as the pasteboard and position them
on the top and left sides. Group those two lines and then group them with
the menu. Depending upon how complex you want it to be, you could also move
all of the menu elements except the text frames to the background and only
have the text frames in the foreground. If you do this, be sure to lock the
elements on both the foreground and master pages. As to who owns the work,
isn't the creator of the project the owner, not the one who commissioned
it - think professional photography. In this case it probably doesn't make a
lot of difference, but for larger creations it could be significant.
--
Ron Cohen

JoAnn Paules said:
I just don't think there's a way to do it. If they can edit anything, they
can edit everything. Assuming they are paying you for the work you're
doing, it's their product and they can do anything they want to it.
Including screw it up royally. (I know, that's the pits.) The only thing
you can do is to warn them if they move anything, they could destroy the
format and then they'd be paying you again to correct it. (Then again,
that might not be a bad thing............)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



tbear said:
I have some small menus created for a restaurant. They will be loaded on
their computer and when they need to change prices etc. all I want them
to be
able to do is change prices and the food entry. I want to be able to lock
the
position of the groups on the page so they cannot destory the format etc.
 
D

dominic.martin

tbear said:
I have some small menus created for a restaurant. They will be loaded on
their computer and when they need to change prices etc. all I want them to be
able to do is change prices and the food entry. I want to be able to lock the
position of the groups on the page so they cannot destory the format
etc.

If it were me, I'd just copy everything that shouldn't be edited to the
master page. I'd then use the ruler markers to identify the correct
position of the text that can be edited. At least when they make
corrections, you can be sure that the design elements won't change
(people forget about the master page) and if they do move something,
they know where to put it back.

Ironically, Word has more features for protecting a document and with
some effort it is possible to only allow other people to edit what you
let them. You simply create the document, go to Protect in the Tools
menu and in the setup assign the level to filling in forms. I don't
know how complex your menu design is or how it is being printed but
have you considered this option? Most menus I've seen tend to have a
simple layout that Word should be able to handle and if the're making
frequent updates it's likely being printed on an inkjet or laser?

Regards,

Dominic
 
M

Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)

JoAnn

MS Word would be much better for this.. save the graphics and text that is
constant as a template.. the part that describes meals and prices could be
set up as a table (no lines), making editing easy.. the table would auto
size and each cell would be accessible with the TAB key..

Just my $2 worth (adjustment made for USA/Canada exchange rate)..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user







JoAnn Paules said:
It's not really "left out". I think this is one of those situations where
a feature would only be used by one or two users. Since you have Acrobat
Pro, you could create a form but since I only have Acrobat Standard, I
can't help you with that. There is an Acrobat newsgroup - you could try
there.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



tbear said:
JoAnn,
Adobe Acrobat 6 Pro. But your probably right. I will have to explain real
good not to mess with it and I will probably end up doing it any way. To
bad
they seem to leave items out in some of these programs like that.
Thanks,
T

JoAnn Paules said:
Adobe what? And probably not. Since they are friends, why don't you
maintain
the master file and just have them submit any changes to you when
needed?

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Thanks JoAnn.
I sort of had a nagging suspicion that I could not. They are freinds
but
are
not computer literate. Is it possable to drag it into Adobe and make
it
into
a form? I know crazy question.
Thanks again,
T

:

I just don't think there's a way to do it. If they can edit anything,
they
can edit everything. Assuming they are paying you for the work you're
doing,
it's their product and they can do anything they want to it.
Including
screw
it up royally. (I know, that's the pits.) The only thing you can do
is to
warn them if they move anything, they could destroy the format and
then
they'd be paying you again to correct it. (Then again, that might
not be
a
bad thing............)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



I have some small menus created for a restaurant. They will be
loaded on
their computer and when they need to change prices etc. all I want
them
to
be
able to do is change prices and the food entry. I want to be able
to
lock
the
position of the groups on the page so they cannot destory the
format
etc.
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]

But Word really isn't a good choice for doing DTP work. He would have to
start from scratch which probably would NOT be fun. :-(

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Mike Hall (MS-MVP) said:
JoAnn

MS Word would be much better for this.. save the graphics and text that is
constant as a template.. the part that describes meals and prices could be
set up as a table (no lines), making editing easy.. the table would auto
size and each cell would be accessible with the TAB key..

Just my $2 worth (adjustment made for USA/Canada exchange rate)..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user







JoAnn Paules said:
It's not really "left out". I think this is one of those situations where
a feature would only be used by one or two users. Since you have Acrobat
Pro, you could create a form but since I only have Acrobat Standard, I
can't help you with that. There is an Acrobat newsgroup - you could try
there.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



tbear said:
JoAnn,
Adobe Acrobat 6 Pro. But your probably right. I will have to explain
real
good not to mess with it and I will probably end up doing it any way. To
bad
they seem to leave items out in some of these programs like that.
Thanks,
T

:

Adobe what? And probably not. Since they are friends, why don't you
maintain
the master file and just have them submit any changes to you when
needed?

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Thanks JoAnn.
I sort of had a nagging suspicion that I could not. They are freinds
but
are
not computer literate. Is it possable to drag it into Adobe and make
it
into
a form? I know crazy question.
Thanks again,
T

:

I just don't think there's a way to do it. If they can edit
anything,
they
can edit everything. Assuming they are paying you for the work
you're
doing,
it's their product and they can do anything they want to it.
Including
screw
it up royally. (I know, that's the pits.) The only thing you can do
is to
warn them if they move anything, they could destroy the format and
then
they'd be paying you again to correct it. (Then again, that might
not be
a
bad thing............)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



I have some small menus created for a restaurant. They will be
loaded on
their computer and when they need to change prices etc. all I want
them
to
be
able to do is change prices and the food entry. I want to be able
to
lock
the
position of the groups on the page so they cannot destory the
format
etc.
 
M

Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)

JoAnn

I agree with you entirely but for the fact that the computer illiterate
restaurant/cafe owners will not be able to work with the Publisher document
(allegedly).. :)

Maybe if one of them has kids, they could commission Little Johnny/Joanna to
take over production..

I have just had a play, and as with all things Publisher, managing a table
is a little more intense than with Word, but it could be done in the same
way as I suggested with MS Word..

You can quit sulking now.. :)


--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user







JoAnn Paules said:
But Word really isn't a good choice for doing DTP work. He would have to
start from scratch which probably would NOT be fun. :-(

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Mike Hall (MS-MVP) said:
JoAnn

MS Word would be much better for this.. save the graphics and text that
is constant as a template.. the part that describes meals and prices
could be set up as a table (no lines), making editing easy.. the table
would auto size and each cell would be accessible with the TAB key..

Just my $2 worth (adjustment made for USA/Canada exchange rate)..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user







JoAnn Paules said:
It's not really "left out". I think this is one of those situations
where a feature would only be used by one or two users. Since you have
Acrobat Pro, you could create a form but since I only have Acrobat
Standard, I can't help you with that. There is an Acrobat newsgroup -
you could try there.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



JoAnn,
Adobe Acrobat 6 Pro. But your probably right. I will have to explain
real
good not to mess with it and I will probably end up doing it any way.
To bad
they seem to leave items out in some of these programs like that.
Thanks,
T

:

Adobe what? And probably not. Since they are friends, why don't you
maintain
the master file and just have them submit any changes to you when
needed?

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Thanks JoAnn.
I sort of had a nagging suspicion that I could not. They are freinds
but
are
not computer literate. Is it possable to drag it into Adobe and make
it
into
a form? I know crazy question.
Thanks again,
T

:

I just don't think there's a way to do it. If they can edit
anything,
they
can edit everything. Assuming they are paying you for the work
you're
doing,
it's their product and they can do anything they want to it.
Including
screw
it up royally. (I know, that's the pits.) The only thing you can do
is to
warn them if they move anything, they could destroy the format and
then
they'd be paying you again to correct it. (Then again, that might
not be
a
bad thing............)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



I have some small menus created for a restaurant. They will be
loaded on
their computer and when they need to change prices etc. all I
want them
to
be
able to do is change prices and the food entry. I want to be able
to
lock
the
position of the groups on the page so they cannot destory the
format
etc.
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]

I'm not sulking! :p

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Mike Hall (MS-MVP) said:
JoAnn

I agree with you entirely but for the fact that the computer illiterate
restaurant/cafe owners will not be able to work with the Publisher
document (allegedly).. :)

Maybe if one of them has kids, they could commission Little Johnny/Joanna
to take over production..

I have just had a play, and as with all things Publisher, managing a table
is a little more intense than with Word, but it could be done in the same
way as I suggested with MS Word..

You can quit sulking now.. :)


--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user







JoAnn Paules said:
But Word really isn't a good choice for doing DTP work. He would have to
start from scratch which probably would NOT be fun. :-(

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Mike Hall (MS-MVP) said:
JoAnn

MS Word would be much better for this.. save the graphics and text that
is constant as a template.. the part that describes meals and prices
could be set up as a table (no lines), making editing easy.. the table
would auto size and each cell would be accessible with the TAB key..

Just my $2 worth (adjustment made for USA/Canada exchange rate)..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user







It's not really "left out". I think this is one of those situations
where a feature would only be used by one or two users. Since you have
Acrobat Pro, you could create a form but since I only have Acrobat
Standard, I can't help you with that. There is an Acrobat newsgroup -
you could try there.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



JoAnn,
Adobe Acrobat 6 Pro. But your probably right. I will have to explain
real
good not to mess with it and I will probably end up doing it any way.
To bad
they seem to leave items out in some of these programs like that.
Thanks,
T

:

Adobe what? And probably not. Since they are friends, why don't you
maintain
the master file and just have them submit any changes to you when
needed?

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Thanks JoAnn.
I sort of had a nagging suspicion that I could not. They are
freinds but
are
not computer literate. Is it possable to drag it into Adobe and
make it
into
a form? I know crazy question.
Thanks again,
T

:

I just don't think there's a way to do it. If they can edit
anything,
they
can edit everything. Assuming they are paying you for the work
you're
doing,
it's their product and they can do anything they want to it.
Including
screw
it up royally. (I know, that's the pits.) The only thing you can
do is to
warn them if they move anything, they could destroy the format and
then
they'd be paying you again to correct it. (Then again, that might
not be
a
bad thing............)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



I have some small menus created for a restaurant. They will be
loaded on
their computer and when they need to change prices etc. all I
want them
to
be
able to do is change prices and the food entry. I want to be
able to
lock
the
position of the groups on the page so they cannot destory the
format
etc.
 
M

Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)

Not wishing to infringe copyright..

"He would have to start from scratch which probably would NOT be fun. :-("

Glossary:

Happy face.. :) Sulking face.. :-( 'Just playing' face..
:))

Have a great day.. :))



--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user







JoAnn Paules said:
I'm not sulking! :p

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Mike Hall (MS-MVP) said:
JoAnn

I agree with you entirely but for the fact that the computer illiterate
restaurant/cafe owners will not be able to work with the Publisher
document (allegedly).. :)

Maybe if one of them has kids, they could commission Little Johnny/Joanna
to take over production..

I have just had a play, and as with all things Publisher, managing a
table is a little more intense than with Word, but it could be done in
the same way as I suggested with MS Word..

You can quit sulking now.. :)


--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user







JoAnn Paules said:
But Word really isn't a good choice for doing DTP work. He would have to
start from scratch which probably would NOT be fun. :-(

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



JoAnn

MS Word would be much better for this.. save the graphics and text that
is constant as a template.. the part that describes meals and prices
could be set up as a table (no lines), making editing easy.. the table
would auto size and each cell would be accessible with the TAB key..

Just my $2 worth (adjustment made for USA/Canada exchange rate)..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user







It's not really "left out". I think this is one of those situations
where a feature would only be used by one or two users. Since you have
Acrobat Pro, you could create a form but since I only have Acrobat
Standard, I can't help you with that. There is an Acrobat newsgroup -
you could try there.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



JoAnn,
Adobe Acrobat 6 Pro. But your probably right. I will have to explain
real
good not to mess with it and I will probably end up doing it any way.
To bad
they seem to leave items out in some of these programs like that.
Thanks,
T

:

Adobe what? And probably not. Since they are friends, why don't you
maintain
the master file and just have them submit any changes to you when
needed?

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Thanks JoAnn.
I sort of had a nagging suspicion that I could not. They are
freinds but
are
not computer literate. Is it possable to drag it into Adobe and
make it
into
a form? I know crazy question.
Thanks again,
T

:

I just don't think there's a way to do it. If they can edit
anything,
they
can edit everything. Assuming they are paying you for the work
you're
doing,
it's their product and they can do anything they want to it.
Including
screw
it up royally. (I know, that's the pits.) The only thing you can
do is to
warn them if they move anything, they could destroy the format
and then
they'd be paying you again to correct it. (Then again, that
might not be
a
bad thing............)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



I have some small menus created for a restaurant. They will be
loaded on
their computer and when they need to change prices etc. all I
want them
to
be
able to do is change prices and the food entry. I want to be
able to
lock
the
position of the groups on the page so they cannot destory the
format
etc.
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]

Okay - see I consider that my "not having fun" face. A sulking face would
have to have a lip that's hanging down around the sternum and the arms
crossed across the chest. The :)) face to me looks like someone without a
nose. ;-)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Mike Hall (MS-MVP) said:
Not wishing to infringe copyright..

"He would have to start from scratch which probably would NOT be fun.
:-("

Glossary:

Happy face.. :) Sulking face.. :-( 'Just playing' face..
:))

Have a great day.. :))



--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user







JoAnn Paules said:
I'm not sulking! :p

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Mike Hall (MS-MVP) said:
JoAnn

I agree with you entirely but for the fact that the computer illiterate
restaurant/cafe owners will not be able to work with the Publisher
document (allegedly).. :)

Maybe if one of them has kids, they could commission Little
Johnny/Joanna to take over production..

I have just had a play, and as with all things Publisher, managing a
table is a little more intense than with Word, but it could be done in
the same way as I suggested with MS Word..

You can quit sulking now.. :)


--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user







But Word really isn't a good choice for doing DTP work. He would have
to start from scratch which probably would NOT be fun. :-(

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



JoAnn

MS Word would be much better for this.. save the graphics and text
that is constant as a template.. the part that describes meals and
prices could be set up as a table (no lines), making editing easy..
the table would auto size and each cell would be accessible with the
TAB key..

Just my $2 worth (adjustment made for USA/Canada exchange rate)..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user







It's not really "left out". I think this is one of those situations
where a feature would only be used by one or two users. Since you
have Acrobat Pro, you could create a form but since I only have
Acrobat Standard, I can't help you with that. There is an Acrobat
newsgroup - you could try there.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



JoAnn,
Adobe Acrobat 6 Pro. But your probably right. I will have to explain
real
good not to mess with it and I will probably end up doing it any
way. To bad
they seem to leave items out in some of these programs like that.
Thanks,
T

:

Adobe what? And probably not. Since they are friends, why don't you
maintain
the master file and just have them submit any changes to you when
needed?

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Thanks JoAnn.
I sort of had a nagging suspicion that I could not. They are
freinds but
are
not computer literate. Is it possable to drag it into Adobe and
make it
into
a form? I know crazy question.
Thanks again,
T

:

I just don't think there's a way to do it. If they can edit
anything,
they
can edit everything. Assuming they are paying you for the work
you're
doing,
it's their product and they can do anything they want to it.
Including
screw
it up royally. (I know, that's the pits.) The only thing you can
do is to
warn them if they move anything, they could destroy the format
and then
they'd be paying you again to correct it. (Then again, that
might not be
a
bad thing............)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



I have some small menus created for a restaurant. They will be
loaded on
their computer and when they need to change prices etc. all I
want them
to
be
able to do is change prices and the food entry. I want to be
able to
lock
the
position of the groups on the page so they cannot destory the
format
etc.
 
M

Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)

JoAnn

Your observation is correct, but worse than no nose is a double chin.. :)
(nose included for universal aesthetic appeal)..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user







JoAnn Paules said:
Okay - see I consider that my "not having fun" face. A sulking face would
have to have a lip that's hanging down around the sternum and the arms
crossed across the chest. The :)) face to me looks like someone without a
nose. ;-)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Mike Hall (MS-MVP) said:
Not wishing to infringe copyright..

"He would have to start from scratch which probably would NOT be fun.
:-("

Glossary:

Happy face.. :) Sulking face.. :-( 'Just playing' face..
:))

Have a great day.. :))



--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user







JoAnn Paules said:
I'm not sulking! :p

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



JoAnn

I agree with you entirely but for the fact that the computer illiterate
restaurant/cafe owners will not be able to work with the Publisher
document (allegedly).. :)

Maybe if one of them has kids, they could commission Little
Johnny/Joanna to take over production..

I have just had a play, and as with all things Publisher, managing a
table is a little more intense than with Word, but it could be done in
the same way as I suggested with MS Word..

You can quit sulking now.. :)


--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user







But Word really isn't a good choice for doing DTP work. He would have
to start from scratch which probably would NOT be fun. :-(

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



JoAnn

MS Word would be much better for this.. save the graphics and text
that is constant as a template.. the part that describes meals and
prices could be set up as a table (no lines), making editing easy..
the table would auto size and each cell would be accessible with the
TAB key..

Just my $2 worth (adjustment made for USA/Canada exchange rate)..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user







It's not really "left out". I think this is one of those situations
where a feature would only be used by one or two users. Since you
have Acrobat Pro, you could create a form but since I only have
Acrobat Standard, I can't help you with that. There is an Acrobat
newsgroup - you could try there.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



JoAnn,
Adobe Acrobat 6 Pro. But your probably right. I will have to
explain real
good not to mess with it and I will probably end up doing it any
way. To bad
they seem to leave items out in some of these programs like that.
Thanks,
T

:

Adobe what? And probably not. Since they are friends, why don't
you maintain
the master file and just have them submit any changes to you when
needed?

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Thanks JoAnn.
I sort of had a nagging suspicion that I could not. They are
freinds but
are
not computer literate. Is it possable to drag it into Adobe and
make it
into
a form? I know crazy question.
Thanks again,
T

:

I just don't think there's a way to do it. If they can edit
anything,
they
can edit everything. Assuming they are paying you for the work
you're
doing,
it's their product and they can do anything they want to it.
Including
screw
it up royally. (I know, that's the pits.) The only thing you
can do is to
warn them if they move anything, they could destroy the format
and then
they'd be paying you again to correct it. (Then again, that
might not be
a
bad thing............)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



I have some small menus created for a restaurant. They will be
loaded on
their computer and when they need to change prices etc. all I
want them
to
be
able to do is change prices and the food entry. I want to be
able to
lock
the
position of the groups on the page so they cannot destory the
format
etc.
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]

And both are better than having two faces. :-O

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Mike Hall (MS-MVP) said:
JoAnn

Your observation is correct, but worse than no nose is a double chin.. :)
(nose included for universal aesthetic appeal)..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user







JoAnn Paules said:
Okay - see I consider that my "not having fun" face. A sulking face would
have to have a lip that's hanging down around the sternum and the arms
crossed across the chest. The :)) face to me looks like someone without a
nose. ;-)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Mike Hall (MS-MVP) said:
Not wishing to infringe copyright..

"He would have to start from scratch which probably would NOT be fun.
:-("

Glossary:

Happy face.. :) Sulking face.. :-( 'Just playing'
face.. :))

Have a great day.. :))



--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user







I'm not sulking! :p

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



JoAnn

I agree with you entirely but for the fact that the computer
illiterate restaurant/cafe owners will not be able to work with the
Publisher document (allegedly).. :)

Maybe if one of them has kids, they could commission Little
Johnny/Joanna to take over production..

I have just had a play, and as with all things Publisher, managing a
table is a little more intense than with Word, but it could be done in
the same way as I suggested with MS Word..

You can quit sulking now.. :)


--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user







But Word really isn't a good choice for doing DTP work. He would have
to start from scratch which probably would NOT be fun. :-(

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



JoAnn

MS Word would be much better for this.. save the graphics and text
that is constant as a template.. the part that describes meals and
prices could be set up as a table (no lines), making editing easy..
the table would auto size and each cell would be accessible with the
TAB key..

Just my $2 worth (adjustment made for USA/Canada exchange rate)..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user







It's not really "left out". I think this is one of those situations
where a feature would only be used by one or two users. Since you
have Acrobat Pro, you could create a form but since I only have
Acrobat Standard, I can't help you with that. There is an Acrobat
newsgroup - you could try there.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



JoAnn,
Adobe Acrobat 6 Pro. But your probably right. I will have to
explain real
good not to mess with it and I will probably end up doing it any
way. To bad
they seem to leave items out in some of these programs like that.
Thanks,
T

:

Adobe what? And probably not. Since they are friends, why don't
you maintain
the master file and just have them submit any changes to you when
needed?

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Thanks JoAnn.
I sort of had a nagging suspicion that I could not. They are
freinds but
are
not computer literate. Is it possable to drag it into Adobe and
make it
into
a form? I know crazy question.
Thanks again,
T

:

I just don't think there's a way to do it. If they can edit
anything,
they
can edit everything. Assuming they are paying you for the work
you're
doing,
it's their product and they can do anything they want to it.
Including
screw
it up royally. (I know, that's the pits.) The only thing you
can do is to
warn them if they move anything, they could destroy the format
and then
they'd be paying you again to correct it. (Then again, that
might not be
a
bad thing............)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



I have some small menus created for a restaurant. They will
be loaded on
their computer and when they need to change prices etc. all
I want them
to
be
able to do is change prices and the food entry. I want to be
able to
lock
the
position of the groups on the page so they cannot destory
the format
etc.
 
M

Miss P.T.

JoAnn Paules said:
Okay - see I consider that my "not having fun" face. A sulking face would
have to have a lip that's hanging down around the sternum and the arms
crossed across the chest. The :)) face to me looks like someone without a
nose. ;-)

The sternum, eh? I'm not sure that even MY lip could reach down that far...
;o)
 
R

Rosebud 2006

tbear said:
I have some small menus created for a restaurant. They will be loaded on
their computer and when they need to change prices etc. all I want them to be
able to do is change prices and the food entry. I want to be able to lock the
position of the groups on the page so they cannot destory the format etc.
 
F

FrankDe

JoAnn,
If you saved al of the groups except the prices as a PDF, they would not be
able to move anything within the "Picture" Then, the only thing that would
be able to be changed, would be the prices since that would be the only Text
saved as text.

Please let me know if this helps. I know it is a bit unorthodox, but it is
the best solution I could think of for you.

Frank


JoAnn Paules said:
I just don't think there's a way to do it. If they can edit anything, they
can edit everything. Assuming they are paying you for the work you're doing,
it's their product and they can do anything they want to it. Including screw
it up royally. (I know, that's the pits.) The only thing you can do is to
warn them if they move anything, they could destroy the format and then
they'd be paying you again to correct it. (Then again, that might not be a
bad thing............)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



tbear said:
I have some small menus created for a restaurant. They will be loaded on
their computer and when they need to change prices etc. all I want them to
be
able to do is change prices and the food entry. I want to be able to lock
the
position of the groups on the page so they cannot destory the format etc.
 

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